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Those who map their own routes with RWGPS

Old 08-24-11, 08:09 AM
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Those who map their own routes with RWGPS

Not alot of help features on the site, so thought I'd ask here - Love this site for unloading my rides and analyzing them, but just tried to map my own route ahead of time and am running into a problem. When I get to the approximate middle of my route (making a circle to return to my starting point) the thing seems to get a mind of it's own and wants to change my route to a more efficient one (not always what we cyclists want) or it just jumps to a whole different route. Is there a way to "lock in" your route up to a point so it won't try to cut corners you don't want to?
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Old 08-24-11, 08:59 AM
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I use RWGPS and love it. Never had that kind of problem. Sounds like you just need to map in shorter segments.
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Old 08-24-11, 09:30 AM
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Pardon my ignorance: What is RWGPS?

Edit: Never mind, found it. As usual, Google is my friend.
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Old 08-24-11, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonah19 View Post
I use RWGPS and love it. Never had that kind of problem. Sounds like you just need to map in shorter segments.
I think I found the issue - - do you drag your cursor through the whole ride? That's what I was doing, but then by accident I clicked a point on the route and that seemed to get it past the spot where it wanted to wander off on its own. So I guess clicking on various points along the route - good. Dragging the cursor through the whole course - bad.
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Old 08-24-11, 09:46 AM
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I've been getting a bit frustrated with it lately. I've just plot point to point to create a route, but sometimes it chooses some of the most bizaar ways of getting between the two points. Granted, "Undo" removes it and then I plot the course a little more tightly but it's still frustrating.

The other problem I've been having lately is with the amount of time it takes to re-center the map after you've marked the next point. I haven't tried turning "re-center" off...maybe that would help...but if you click your next point before it re-centers, it'll re-center first and then accept your click, with is now in the wrong place.

I've been a supporter over the years but it's getting quite tedious to map something over 50 miles.

Oh...the other thing I've found is that it's sometimes helpful to indicate that you are "Driving" instead of "Cycling" for certain segments...if your route is along major roads, then it will stick to them, whereas if you say "Cycling", then you end up on more side streets.
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also make sure you are on the 'cycling' option not 'driving'. the 'draw straight line' option can get you through trickey roundabouts etc. ..
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Old 08-24-11, 09:51 AM
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of course i never let it choose a route for me, just use the satellite image to base route on.
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there are certain segments that seem to have bugs. one of my segments is a straight main road and when i try to map my route through it gets to a certain point and then it tells me to back track and take side streets. i even emailed them about it and they were kinda helpful but the bug wasnt fixed. it was nice to get a quick email back from them though. you just have to switch to draw lines until you get passed that "bad" segment and then switch over when its back to normal.
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Old 08-24-11, 12:38 PM
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I usually try to click after each major turn or intersection, to give it a strong hint of which route to use exiting the intersection. It works pretty well 95% of the time but occasionally if the next click is too far it will choose the wrong route...then I click "undo". To move the map around I just click and drag, being careful to not click on a road. Seems to work OK.
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Originally Posted by Specialized2k10 View Post
there are certain segments that seem to have bugs. one of my segments is a straight main road and when i try to map my route through it gets to a certain point and then it tells me to back track and take side streets. i even emailed them about it and they were kinda helpful but the bug wasnt fixed. it was nice to get a quick email back from them though. you just have to switch to draw lines until you get passed that "bad" segment and then switch over when its back to normal.
I suspect the routing function is provided by Google. If you have a problem segment it's probably a good idea to report it to Google and eventually they should get around to fixing it.
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Old 08-25-11, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ticktockpedal View Post
also make sure you are on the 'cycling' option not 'driving'. the 'draw straight line' option can get you through trickey roundabouts etc. ..
I found the opposite to be true. I was having those issuses as well, rwgps going crazy in middle of ride or at certain intersections, and at that point I go to "follow roads" and that helped a ton.
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Old 08-25-11, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dstrong View Post
I've been getting a bit frustrated with it lately. I've just plot point to point to create a route, but sometimes it chooses some of the most bizaar ways of getting between the two points. Granted, "Undo" removes it and then I plot the course a little more tightly but it's still frustrating.

The other problem I've been having lately is with the amount of time it takes to re-center the map after you've marked the next point. I haven't tried turning "re-center" off...maybe that would help...but if you click your next point before it re-centers, it'll re-center first and then accept your click, with is now in the wrong place.

I've been a supporter over the years but it's getting quite tedious to map something over 50 miles.

Oh...the other thing I've found is that it's sometimes helpful to indicate that you are "Driving" instead of "Cycling" for certain segments...if your route is along major roads, then it will stick to them, whereas if you say "Cycling", then you end up on more side streets.
ds, you can blame me for auto recenter. That was my idea. Before I got my Garmin I would plot all my rides. Now I don't use that feature so much, but I understand your position.

Indeed, trying to map long rides at a low zoom factor can be a bit frustrating. If you can't stay on the right side of the street you can get some weird routes, circles, etc. It may be a factor of the Google map engine. It's really frustrating if you have one of those little glitches in the middle of a route, I think the only way to remove it is from repeated undo's. A drag and drop feature would help, but it may be very tricky to program. Some of the other sites seem to assume your direction of travel and avoid any surprises.
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The problem I've experienced with RWGPS is it's apparent infatuation with U-turns. As I add (short) new segments to a route, it goes past where I clicked and puts in a U-turn back to the point at which I clicked. I can clearly see what it's done, the resulting cue sheet make it obvious. I have yet to find a set of options, and believe me, I've tried dozens, including different browsers under different OS's, that cures this problem.

Frustrating to the point where I don't use the site much anymore.

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Old 08-26-11, 09:25 AM
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bsektzer,

Same problem I have when adjusting a route. Which site are you using now?
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Originally Posted by dstrong View Post
I've been getting a bit frustrated with it lately. I've just plot point to point to create a route, but sometimes it chooses some of the most bizaar ways of getting between the two points. Granted, "Undo" removes it and then I plot the course a little more tightly but it's still frustrating.

The other problem I've been having lately is with the amount of time it takes to re-center the map after you've marked the next point. I haven't tried turning "re-center" off...maybe that would help...but if you click your next point before it re-centers, it'll re-center first and then accept your click, with is now in the wrong place.

I've been a supporter over the years but it's getting quite tedious to map something over 50 miles.

Oh...the other thing I've found is that it's sometimes helpful to indicate that you are "Driving" instead of "Cycling" for certain segments...if your route is along major roads, then it will stick to them, whereas if you say "Cycling", then you end up on more side streets.
You know you can grab the route line and drag it to the street that you want, right? (same as Google maps)
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Old 08-29-11, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by hamsey View Post
bsektzer,

Same problem I have when adjusting a route. Which site are you using now?
I do have a Strava account for my Garmin data, and between that and Google maps, I'm getting by. Are there any other sites offering similar services?

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