Who here does NOT have upgraditis?
08-25-11, 07:11 PM
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Who here does NOT have upgraditis?
Anyone here do NOT have upgraditis? (O the blasphemy!)
No lusting after new bikes or components. Perfectly happy with what you've got, and if given a chance to do it again, would even consider downgrading from what you have?
I'm spending 100% of my on-road miles now on my entry-level Sora bike, and I have no urge to upgrade it. I do know what a DA Cervelo feels like, as I've got one sitting on my trainer (race bike) but I have no urge whatsoever to ride it preferentially, and am seriously contemplating selling it, as the entry level bike does 100% of what I need and want in a bike, and has for the past year.
No lusting after new bikes or components. Perfectly happy with what you've got, and if given a chance to do it again, would even consider downgrading from what you have?
I'm spending 100% of my on-road miles now on my entry-level Sora bike, and I have no urge to upgrade it. I do know what a DA Cervelo feels like, as I've got one sitting on my trainer (race bike) but I have no urge whatsoever to ride it preferentially, and am seriously contemplating selling it, as the entry level bike does 100% of what I need and want in a bike, and has for the past year.
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I'm not suffering from it, but I'm not riding an entry-level bike either.
i just upgraded my bike a couple weeks ago and im in love with it
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08-25-11, 07:34 PM
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I'm very happy with my main ride and have no desire to upgrade.... yet.
08-25-11, 07:35 PM
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Throw the stick!!!!
I'm not suffering from upgraditis. I embrace it every day.
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I think you're crazy for riding a Sora bike when you have a Cervelo w/ DA sitting right there. If you can afford to keep it, why not ride the heck out of that instead?
I get more pleasure riding when I'm on a nicer bike. That's just me, but I'm guessing I'm not the only one who feels that way. Maybe it's a generational thing, but at 24 years old I grew up with technology and newer technology replacing the old technology. For people like me the latest and greatest features make a difference. A lot of it just has to do with taste and personal satisfaction. For example, a Porsche 911 Turbo turns me on. A Nissan 350z does not. I'd also take a rib-eye over a sirloin every single time. To a starving man the sirloin is just as satisfying, but when you are fortunate enough to have the option, why not opt for the better tasting steak? Same goes for bikes.
I am guilty of having severe upgraditis.
I get more pleasure riding when I'm on a nicer bike. That's just me, but I'm guessing I'm not the only one who feels that way. Maybe it's a generational thing, but at 24 years old I grew up with technology and newer technology replacing the old technology. For people like me the latest and greatest features make a difference. A lot of it just has to do with taste and personal satisfaction. For example, a Porsche 911 Turbo turns me on. A Nissan 350z does not. I'd also take a rib-eye over a sirloin every single time. To a starving man the sirloin is just as satisfying, but when you are fortunate enough to have the option, why not opt for the better tasting steak? Same goes for bikes.
I am guilty of having severe upgraditis.
08-25-11, 07:58 PM
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I often lust about new bikes and parts upgrades for my entry-level bike. But just as I'm about to pull the trigger on something new, I rationalize with myself and, time and time again, ultimately decide that the upgrade doesn't justify the cost.
08-25-11, 07:59 PM
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Not a generational thing. I'm an old guy with a Cervelo SLC-SL, DA, and Zipp wheels wanting a S5. Plus I have several other bikes along the way. Now I want an S5 with Di2.
08-25-11, 08:06 PM
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Nope...
All changes are now made for specific reasons and are not done just because...
All changes are now made for specific reasons and are not done just because...
08-25-11, 08:20 PM
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I am of the opinion we are in a Golden Age of bikes and components. Having started out circa 1984 with a Schwinn Traveler with a heavy frame, steel 27" wheels and friction shifters on the stem, with a limited amount of products available at our little bike shop, I think it is really awesome how we now have a large and diverse industry of manufacturers competing to sell us stuff that continues to get better and (relatively) cheaper.
I prefer the approach of having tried and trued bikes and keeping them updated as components wear. But my upgrades are usually driven by some kind of actual improvement and not just newness for the sake of novelty. For example, upgrading from 9 to 10sp has not done anything for my riding ability or performance, but I found the ergonomics of the newer stuff worlds better than the stuff from only 5 or so years ago, and that is what really drove my upgrade (9sp shifters were actually causing hand pain). At the same time I also upgraded bars; not because I found the latest newfangled super-fred-tastic thing that I just had to have, but for an actual improvement in comfort.
So, I actually believe products (at least in the bike world) get better; and while one can point to a few cases in which this is not true, overall I think it is. And I'm happy to march along with it as long as the improvements are real.
I prefer the approach of having tried and trued bikes and keeping them updated as components wear. But my upgrades are usually driven by some kind of actual improvement and not just newness for the sake of novelty. For example, upgrading from 9 to 10sp has not done anything for my riding ability or performance, but I found the ergonomics of the newer stuff worlds better than the stuff from only 5 or so years ago, and that is what really drove my upgrade (9sp shifters were actually causing hand pain). At the same time I also upgraded bars; not because I found the latest newfangled super-fred-tastic thing that I just had to have, but for an actual improvement in comfort.
So, I actually believe products (at least in the bike world) get better; and while one can point to a few cases in which this is not true, overall I think it is. And I'm happy to march along with it as long as the improvements are real.
08-25-11, 08:29 PM
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I just went through the whole upgrade cycle (my "Bicycling" folder in my Favorites list is currently packed with links to all of the products and info I was studying)... plunked down on the new bike two weeks ago, to which I added pedals, wireless computer, small saddle bag, and bottle cages, plus stocked up on CO2 cartridges.
The hardware is all good right now, but I am looking at more cycling-specific clothes, and already thinking about the cold-weather gear, of which I have almost none...
The hardware is all good right now, but I am looking at more cycling-specific clothes, and already thinking about the cold-weather gear, of which I have almost none...
08-25-11, 10:10 PM
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I think you're crazy for riding a Sora bike when you have a Cervelo w/ DA sitting right there. If you can afford to keep it, why not ride the heck out of that instead?
I get more pleasure riding when I'm on a nicer bike. That's just me, but I'm guessing I'm not the only one who feels that way. Maybe it's a generational thing, but at 24 years old I grew up with technology and newer technology replacing the old technology. For people like me the latest and greatest features make a difference. A lot of it just has to do with taste and personal satisfaction. For example, a Porsche 911 Turbo turns me on. A Nissan 350z does not. I'd also take a rib-eye over a sirloin every single time. To a starving man the sirloin is just as satisfying, but when you are fortunate enough to have the option, why not opt for the better tasting steak? Same goes for bikes.
I am guilty of having severe upgraditis.
I get more pleasure riding when I'm on a nicer bike. That's just me, but I'm guessing I'm not the only one who feels that way. Maybe it's a generational thing, but at 24 years old I grew up with technology and newer technology replacing the old technology. For people like me the latest and greatest features make a difference. A lot of it just has to do with taste and personal satisfaction. For example, a Porsche 911 Turbo turns me on. A Nissan 350z does not. I'd also take a rib-eye over a sirloin every single time. To a starving man the sirloin is just as satisfying, but when you are fortunate enough to have the option, why not opt for the better tasting steak? Same goes for bikes.
I am guilty of having severe upgraditis.
1. The Cervelo/DA costs a lot to maintain. You don't slap cheapo tires or a cheap chain on that bike. I also take it to a shop for tuneups (not done myself) and they invariably tell me I should break the whole thing down and put it together again as it's a quality bike and all the parts should be treated well (which I agree with). Quality cables, quality everything = $$$ (even though I can easily afford it, it doesn't fit in my value philosophy with money.)
2. Crash/fall risk. In the past years, without doing any risky riding/racing, I've gone down 3 times on my entry level bike, one time of which resulted in some minor frame scratches. Not an issue whatsoever with my cheap bike but that would be at least $1000 of damage equivalent on my Cervelo if I tried to resell it with those scratches.
3. Satisfaction from riding fast 'on your own power.' While I know that it's 99% rider for speed, I do know that when I'm the first one in the paceline of $3k+ bikes to the top of the mountain, that I've done it on my own power, and it's satisfying.
4. Multipurpose use. I can ride my entry Defy3 bike anywhere, lock it up, and not worry about it getting stolen or attracting undue attention. Try that with a Cervelo. Got a lot of commuter miles this way (18 mi each way) without worrying about theft.
It's all about training for me. While I love reading about the awesome hardware, and don't begrudge anyone their killer bike and race wheels, it's a bottom priority for me. I'm dead honest when I say that I get minimal satisfaction about spending my money on pricey bike stuff. Interestingly,I'm not a penny pincher, either. I don't drive a budget car, and enjoy the upgrades in my well equiped mid-upper level vehicle. It's just that I actually notice a significant benefit from those upgrades,whereas the trivial benefit of crisper DA shifting compared to my tuned Sora is not worth $1k+ to me.
08-25-11, 10:33 PM
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Many reasons, specific to me, of some of which are:
1. The Cervelo/DA costs a lot to maintain. You don't slap cheapo tires or a cheap chain on that bike. I also take it to a shop for tuneups (not done myself) and they invariably tell me I should break the whole thing down and put it together again as it's a quality bike and all the parts should be treated well (which I agree with). Quality cables, quality everything = $$$ (even though I can easily afford it, it doesn't fit in my value philosophy with money.)
2. Crash/fall risk. In the past years, without doing any risky riding/racing, I've gone down 3 times on my entry level bike, one time of which resulted in some minor frame scratches. Not an issue whatsoever with my cheap bike but that would be at least $1000 of damage equivalent on my Cervelo if I tried to resell it with those scratches.
3. Satisfaction from riding fast 'on your own power.' While I know that it's 99% rider for speed, I do know that when I'm the first one in the paceline of $3k+ bikes to the top of the mountain, that I've done it on my own power, and it's satisfying.
4. Multipurpose use. I can ride my entry Defy3 bike anywhere, lock it up, and not worry about it getting stolen or attracting undue attention. Try that with a Cervelo. Got a lot of commuter miles this way (18 mi each way) without worrying about theft.
It's all about training for me. While I love reading about the awesome hardware, and don't begrudge anyone their killer bike and race wheels, it's a bottom priority for me. I'm dead honest when I say that I get minimal satisfaction about spending my money on pricey bike stuff. Interestingly,I'm not a penny pincher, either. I don't drive a budget car, and enjoy the upgrades in my well equiped mid-upper level vehicle. It's just that I actually notice a significant benefit from those upgrades,whereas the trivial benefit of crisper DA shifting compared to my tuned Sora is not worth $1k+ to me.
1. The Cervelo/DA costs a lot to maintain. You don't slap cheapo tires or a cheap chain on that bike. I also take it to a shop for tuneups (not done myself) and they invariably tell me I should break the whole thing down and put it together again as it's a quality bike and all the parts should be treated well (which I agree with). Quality cables, quality everything = $$$ (even though I can easily afford it, it doesn't fit in my value philosophy with money.)
2. Crash/fall risk. In the past years, without doing any risky riding/racing, I've gone down 3 times on my entry level bike, one time of which resulted in some minor frame scratches. Not an issue whatsoever with my cheap bike but that would be at least $1000 of damage equivalent on my Cervelo if I tried to resell it with those scratches.
3. Satisfaction from riding fast 'on your own power.' While I know that it's 99% rider for speed, I do know that when I'm the first one in the paceline of $3k+ bikes to the top of the mountain, that I've done it on my own power, and it's satisfying.
4. Multipurpose use. I can ride my entry Defy3 bike anywhere, lock it up, and not worry about it getting stolen or attracting undue attention. Try that with a Cervelo. Got a lot of commuter miles this way (18 mi each way) without worrying about theft.
It's all about training for me. While I love reading about the awesome hardware, and don't begrudge anyone their killer bike and race wheels, it's a bottom priority for me. I'm dead honest when I say that I get minimal satisfaction about spending my money on pricey bike stuff. Interestingly,I'm not a penny pincher, either. I don't drive a budget car, and enjoy the upgrades in my well equiped mid-upper level vehicle. It's just that I actually notice a significant benefit from those upgrades,whereas the trivial benefit of crisper DA shifting compared to my tuned Sora is not worth $1k+ to me.
08-25-11, 10:33 PM
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Wouldn't downgrade but perfectly happy with the bikes I've got. They're set up exactly how I want them. When stuff wears out I replace it with the best I can afford and keep riding.
08-25-11, 10:39 PM
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I only want new stuff when I am not riding (which is too often).
It's easy to obsess when you're in front of a computer screen but on the road, it all disappears.
It's easy to obsess when you're in front of a computer screen but on the road, it all disappears.
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Many reasons, specific to me, of some of which are:
1. The Cervelo/DA costs a lot to maintain. You don't slap cheapo tires or a cheap chain on that bike. I also take it to a shop for tuneups (not done myself) and they invariably tell me I should break the whole thing down and put it together again as it's a quality bike and all the parts should be treated well (which I agree with). Quality cables, quality everything = $$$ (even though I can easily afford it, it doesn't fit in my value philosophy with money.)
2. Crash/fall risk. In the past years, without doing any risky riding/racing, I've gone down 3 times on my entry level bike, one time of which resulted in some minor frame scratches. Not an issue whatsoever with my cheap bike but that would be at least $1000 of damage equivalent on my Cervelo if I tried to resell it with those scratches.
3. Satisfaction from riding fast 'on your own power.' While I know that it's 99% rider for speed, I do know that when I'm the first one in the paceline of $3k+ bikes to the top of the mountain, that I've done it on my own power, and it's satisfying.
4. Multipurpose use. I can ride my entry Defy3 bike anywhere, lock it up, and not worry about it getting stolen or attracting undue attention. Try that with a Cervelo. Got a lot of commuter miles this way (18 mi each way) without worrying about theft.
It's all about training for me. While I love reading about the awesome hardware, and don't begrudge anyone their killer bike and race wheels, it's a bottom priority for me. I'm dead honest when I say that I get minimal satisfaction about spending my money on pricey bike stuff. Interestingly,I'm not a penny pincher, either. I don't drive a budget car, and enjoy the upgrades in my well equiped mid-upper level vehicle. It's just that I actually notice a significant benefit from those upgrades,whereas the trivial benefit of crisper DA shifting compared to my tuned Sora is not worth $1k+ to me.
1. The Cervelo/DA costs a lot to maintain. You don't slap cheapo tires or a cheap chain on that bike. I also take it to a shop for tuneups (not done myself) and they invariably tell me I should break the whole thing down and put it together again as it's a quality bike and all the parts should be treated well (which I agree with). Quality cables, quality everything = $$$ (even though I can easily afford it, it doesn't fit in my value philosophy with money.)
2. Crash/fall risk. In the past years, without doing any risky riding/racing, I've gone down 3 times on my entry level bike, one time of which resulted in some minor frame scratches. Not an issue whatsoever with my cheap bike but that would be at least $1000 of damage equivalent on my Cervelo if I tried to resell it with those scratches.
3. Satisfaction from riding fast 'on your own power.' While I know that it's 99% rider for speed, I do know that when I'm the first one in the paceline of $3k+ bikes to the top of the mountain, that I've done it on my own power, and it's satisfying.
4. Multipurpose use. I can ride my entry Defy3 bike anywhere, lock it up, and not worry about it getting stolen or attracting undue attention. Try that with a Cervelo. Got a lot of commuter miles this way (18 mi each way) without worrying about theft.
It's all about training for me. While I love reading about the awesome hardware, and don't begrudge anyone their killer bike and race wheels, it's a bottom priority for me. I'm dead honest when I say that I get minimal satisfaction about spending my money on pricey bike stuff. Interestingly,I'm not a penny pincher, either. I don't drive a budget car, and enjoy the upgrades in my well equiped mid-upper level vehicle. It's just that I actually notice a significant benefit from those upgrades,whereas the trivial benefit of crisper DA shifting compared to my tuned Sora is not worth $1k+ to me.
The shifty bits are Red, and the Quarq cost twice as much as my first road bike, but in my mind it doesn't make sense to spend a lot on consumables like chains and training tires.
08-25-11, 11:02 PM
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Mine is a 2006 S-Works Tarmac SL with 2011 Force except for the Gossamer SRM with the PC7. Cheapo Easton training wheels and some R-Sys wheels for races. No real good reason to upgrade.
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No upgrade urges for me.
I bought a dream bike 1 week ago and wouldn't change a thing...
I bought a dream bike 1 week ago and wouldn't change a thing...
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Same boat here, healed for the time being, just bought a caad10. I was trying to turn my mountain bike into a road bike, many paychecks later, it was still a mountain bike with road tires.