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Kind of Blued 09-20-11 08:07 PM

I don't understand the minimalist mentality. I have a small seat bag, and I used to ONLY carry two spare tubes, a patch kit, and three CO2s, and I've still had to make the phone call. I added a frame pump, and so far, so good.

John00 09-21-11 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by runner pat (Post 13253203)
Often the hole is too small to see(especially with aging eyes) and it's faster to replace the tube and use the full sink method at home.


Pump the tube up enough, you'll find the hole. I always carry 2 tubes, patch kit, a tire boot and a mini-pump

surreycrv 09-21-11 12:25 PM

I wonder how many of the no patches/2nd tube crowd actually inspect the tire for the offending puncture point? If the weight of a 2nd tube or patch kit can slow down average speed, that additional time spent must surely trash their results. Better to dnf than post a slower time :)

Homebrew01 09-21-11 12:29 PM

"I would have been able to hang with the group on the last climb if it weren't for that damned 2nd tube" :innocent:

Bob Ross 09-21-11 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by globecanvas (Post 13253019)
I'm not going to carry 2 tubes on 50 mile rides though.

Well, there's yer problem right there.

fwiw, I have never gotten the dreaded 3rd flat. Nor have I ever had to call in an emergency airlift from the Honey-mobile...or would I: Got too much pride

...and that's my problem right there.

Daytrip 09-21-11 12:58 PM

What's the world coming to?

With a $3 patch kit, you're basically invincible (unless the glue is dried out, of course).

revchuck 09-21-11 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by surreycrv (Post 13258259)
i wonder how many of the no patches/2nd tube crowd actually inspect the tire for the offending puncture point? If the weight of a 2nd tube or patch kit can slow down average speed, that additional time spent must surely trash their results. Better to dnf than post a slower time :)

dfl > dnf.

equipe 09-21-11 05:37 PM

2 tubes, 3 CO2, 1 patch kit, 1 tire lever.

I carry that no matter the distance. better safe than walking.

gsteinb 09-21-11 05:44 PM

Park makes these nifty little glue patches

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/005...demo_large.jpg

globecanvas 09-21-11 07:36 PM

I did the same ride today. No flats. Got home and realized my pump was still on the other bike :/

Homebrew01 09-21-11 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 13259746)
Park makes these nifty little glue patches

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/005...demo_large.jpg

They look heavy ... just bring one.

threemonkeys 09-21-11 07:41 PM

I went on a 47 mile ride on Sunday. Got my first flat .25 miles from home. I, too, called my wife to pick me up. And today I learned how to repair a flat and the workings of a presta valve. Glad I know how to fix a flat now, but it still sucks.

ColinL 09-21-11 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by RTDub (Post 13254080)
For those who argue for a more robust tire, just yesterday morning I was taken out by a large roofing staple through a Specialized Nimbus tire and Slime liners. Sometimes you just can't prevent it.

Well, yes, that is not in question.

I have that sort of issue infrequently, whereas flats with no liner and ultra thin racing tires happen much more frequently. I have robust flat protection AND carry at least one tube, a patch kit, and a micro frame pump. Its just that I have to use my spares a lot less often.

Homebrew01 09-21-11 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by threemonkeys (Post 13260223)
I went on a 47 mile ride on Sunday. Got my first flat .25 miles from home. I, too, called my wife to pick me up. And today I learned how to repair a flat and the workings of a presta valve. Glad I know how to fix a flat now, but it still sucks.

You couldn't walk .25 mile ?

eja_ bottecchia 09-21-11 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by GP (Post 13253848)
75 grams for a Michelin Ultra Lite.

That's 2.65 ounces. I've hacked loogies that weigh more than that! :twitchy:


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