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Old 09-29-11 | 09:41 AM
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Fat wet tires

Look for some suggestions for my commuter bike which is a hybrid of road/cyclo-cross with disc brakes. The fork can accommodate up to 32mm tires with no problem, and the rim width is 18mm internal. I can pretty much mount any tires on the bike. The Vittoria Randonneur Cross tires I have currently are really heavy (>500 grams per tire), and I mostly ride this bike when it's web/snow out.

The ones I have looked at are Continental GP 4Season 28mm and Vittoria Rubino Pro Tech 3 28mm. From what I heard, they are really good tires for web conditions. Any comments for those, or new suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 09-29-11 | 11:09 AM
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I searched around a lot with this same question and I have put about 100 miles on Conti GP 4Season 700x25 the past ten days. I was concerned about tire clearance since I have a standard road frame, not a cross bike, and I've had two sets of Vittorias that ran large but also one set that was true to rated size. You won't have that problem with 28mm so either tire is good.

They're both pretty expensive. They're both well-rated in the rain and overall rolling resistance. But the GP4S has a much better reputation for flat protection and longer life.

Oh and since I'm riding in the winter too, I installed Mr Tuffy Ultra Lite liners. Maybe it's an unreasonable expectation, but I'm hoping to have zero flats. You get cold pretty fast changing a tube at 30 degrees.
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Old 09-29-11 | 11:50 AM
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Thanks. I am also going to take a look at the tire liners. I never knew existed. Do they work?

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I searched around a lot with this same question and I have put about 100 miles on Conti GP 4Season 700x25 the past ten days. I was concerned about tire clearance since I have a standard road frame, not a cross bike, and I've had two sets of Vittorias that ran large but also one set that was true to rated size. You won't have that problem with 28mm so either tire is good.

They're both pretty expensive. They're both well-rated in the rain and overall rolling resistance. But the GP4S has a much better reputation for flat protection and longer life.

Oh and since I'm riding in the winter too, I installed Mr Tuffy Ultra Lite liners. Maybe it's an unreasonable expectation, but I'm hoping to have zero flats. You get cold pretty fast changing a tube at 30 degrees.
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Old 09-29-11 | 12:05 PM
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I've only had mine in for a short time but I have two riding buddies who have put thousands of miles on them without flats. One is riding Michelin Krylion and the other Schwalbe Durano, which are both pretty tough tires and I'm sure some BF members have done similar mileage without flats and without liners.

However at only 30g per liner they seemed prudent to me. I'm still carrying all my spares though-- no liner will stop a roofing nail, broken glass, etc. (The key to those is obviously seeing and avoiding.)
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Old 09-29-11 | 12:38 PM
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If it's a rain/snow/slop bike, why go so skinny on the tires???? A 35mm Pasela or Randonneur Hyper will weigh a LOT less than the Rando Cross (like 350-ish gm), roll much faster and ride smoother.

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Old 09-29-11 | 12:53 PM
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With the right tires, you shouldn't need tire liners. May I suggest the Marathon Supreme? Exceptionally sticky dry or wet. 375 grams/tire in a 700x32 size. 700x28 is a mere 310 grams.

https://www.schwalbetires.com/bike_ti...rathon_supreme

Not cheap, but a really nice tire.
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Old 09-29-11 | 01:06 PM
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Cool, I will check into those. They are really only used for rain/snow/nasty weathers. Cheaper is better.

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If it's a rain/snow/slop bike, why go so skinny on the tires???? A 35mm Pasela or Randonneur Hyper will weigh a LOT less than the Rando Cross (like 350-ish gm), roll much faster and ride smoother.

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