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Definitely - clipless is safer than slotted cleats.
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Originally Posted by matimeo
(Post 13564067)
Common sense says to me that the crank arm and pedal don't need much help being efficient on the upstroke. Even though there is a minute dead spot, research just doesn't point to an advantage. Here's a study I ran across recently: https://www.thieme-connect.com/ejour...s-2008-1038374
It doesn't say that you can't sprint, climb, and time trial faster with clipless pedals versus platforms. It would be pretty easy to do a study measuring time on various TT courses, and maximum sprinting speed. I'd bet dollars to donuts, the clock would show an advantage to clipless. As for my own anecdote, 2 years ago at the Tour of Bahamas I was 2nd in the Circuit race, 3rd on GC after the time trial, and only needed to finish the Road race with the group I was in to finish on th podium, when my cleat imploded. After riding 20 plus miles barefoot on speedplays I abandonded. Stif shoes, and clipless pedals are definitely advantageous. |
Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
(Post 13566110)
That study doesn't begin to say what you want it to. It simply says they didn't find a significant efficiency advantage at submaximal efforts.
It doesn't say that you can't sprint, climb, and time trial faster with clipless pedals versus platforms. It would be pretty easy to do a study measuring time on various TT courses, and maximum sprinting speed. I'd bet dollars to donuts, the clock would show an advantage to clipless. |
Ow! I had a pair of Dueggi's, I'd forgotten just how uncomfortable they were, especially on long rides. The cleats would squeak, and loosen up since they only had 1 screw, and you couldn't walk in them. In comparison, clipless shoes are a vast improvement. But you can wear a touring shoe or Chuck Taylor's and do just fine with toeclips.
Clipless is lighter, or course, and it's easy to wear booties for winter riding. I don't get a speed difference, but my efforts are "sub-optimal" |
Originally Posted by shovelhd
(Post 13566065)
Yeah, I've got a set of Duegi's and a set if Diadora's from my 80's racing days at home. You missed the point. If you're going to wear cleated shoes, you might as well wear clipless.
I still use those shoes on a regular basis. |
Good for you. My toe strap days are over. Wanna buy my old ones?
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Originally Posted by hyhuu
(Post 13566279)
Agree. I don't understand why people quote research or study but don't even know how to read it in the first place.
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Originally Posted by shovelhd
(Post 13567920)
Good for you. My toe strap days are over. Wanna buy my old ones?
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Too big. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 13567966)
I spend 98% of my time riding submaximally. Study applies to me.
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Originally Posted by oldbobcat
(Post 13564017)
.... riders us(e) foot attachment actually pull up....
Originally Posted by Commodus
(Post 13564031)
You can do all of this without attachment.
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For those of you considering clipless, let me tell you how it is:
The day you start using clipless, you will probably be disappointed that you did not gain 2 mph (just like you were when you got those new wheels). But.... After riding only a thousand miles clipless, try going back to platforms. - That is when it becomes immediately and unequivocably obvious that clipless gives you more power. - That is when you know you made the right choice. - That is when you know that all the peeps who said clipless isn't any better were plum outta their gourds. - That is when you can author awesome posts like this. |
Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 13569947)
Only if they're size 41.
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