drop handlebars suck
#1
Thread Starter
Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
From: Munich
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d´Huez, Scott Sub 10, homemade mtb, Radlbauer adler (old city bike), Dahon impulse (folder with 20 inch wheels), haibike eq xduro
drop handlebars suck
I couldnt stand it any more - the drop bars had to go from my new Lemond Alpe d´Huez (bought in November). I tried but every time that I rode the bike even just looking at those nasty drop handlebars set my carpal tunnel syndrome off big time and I couldn´t feel my hands for days afterwards. I also didn´t like being so far from the brakes in traffic.
So after deep consideration I have ditched the drop bars and the nice shiny Ultegra STI shifters (sob) and fitted a Syntace Stratos 200 time trial bar with long rubber grips (to dampen the vibration) and Dura Ace SL-BS77 bar end shifters. I have also ordered the Salsa cyclocross brake levers but they havent arrived yet.
There is no going back now as the STI´s are up on ebay (though they have only got to 5 euros yet with about 3 days to go)
what do you guys think of this set up -any suggestions for improvements?
So after deep consideration I have ditched the drop bars and the nice shiny Ultegra STI shifters (sob) and fitted a Syntace Stratos 200 time trial bar with long rubber grips (to dampen the vibration) and Dura Ace SL-BS77 bar end shifters. I have also ordered the Salsa cyclocross brake levers but they havent arrived yet.
There is no going back now as the STI´s are up on ebay (though they have only got to 5 euros yet with about 3 days to go)
what do you guys think of this set up -any suggestions for improvements?
#2
Banned.
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,020
Likes: 0
From: Towson, MD
Bikes: 2001 Look KG 241, 1989 Specialized Stump Jumper Comp, 1986 Gatane Performanc
Not having carble tunnel, I can' t realy relate. But, if the TT bars work thats great! Seeing as you have way more hand possitions on drop bars, I am not sure if they will, but I guess you will find out. In traffic, I ride on the hoods with a finger on the brakes. Works for me. I hope your settup works for you.
#3
Originally Posted by royalflash
I couldnt stand it any more - the drop bars had to go from my new Lemond Alpe d´Huez (bought in November). I tried but every time that I rode the bike even just looking at those nasty drop handlebars set my carpal tunnel syndrome off big time and I couldn´t feel my hands for days afterwards. I also didn´t like being so far from the brakes in traffic.
So after deep consideration I have ditched the drop bars and the nice shiny Ultegra STI shifters (sob) and fitted a Syntace Stratos 200 time trial bar with long rubber grips (to dampen the vibration) and Dura Ace SL-BS77 bar end shifters. I have also ordered the Salsa cyclocross brake levers but they havent arrived yet.
There is no going back now as the STI´s are up on ebay (though they have only got to 5 euros yet with about 3 days to go)
what do you guys think of this set up -any suggestions for improvements?
So after deep consideration I have ditched the drop bars and the nice shiny Ultegra STI shifters (sob) and fitted a Syntace Stratos 200 time trial bar with long rubber grips (to dampen the vibration) and Dura Ace SL-BS77 bar end shifters. I have also ordered the Salsa cyclocross brake levers but they havent arrived yet.
There is no going back now as the STI´s are up on ebay (though they have only got to 5 euros yet with about 3 days to go)
what do you guys think of this set up -any suggestions for improvements?
#4
Immoderator
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,630
Likes: 5
From: POS Tennessee
Bikes: Gary Fisher Simple City 8, Litespeed Obed
I used to get carpal tunnel when I was doing a lot of grinding work, and switching to drops and more of an upright position was what helped it.
__________________
Originally Posted by Bikeforums
Your rights end where another poster's feelings begin.
#6
Thread Starter
Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
From: Munich
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d´Huez, Scott Sub 10, homemade mtb, Radlbauer adler (old city bike), Dahon impulse (folder with 20 inch wheels), haibike eq xduro
Originally Posted by sydney
Why didn't you just get a cofort bike? I thinks the shifters way out there are just silly, combined with the cross levers.But I've seen sillyer.
#7
Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: Northeast Massachusetts
Bikes: Cannondale R600, Raleigh SC30
I am also a large rider, and sometimes suffer from carpal tunnel problems. When I got my first road bike this autumn, the LBS fitted me in a position where the stem is not lower than the seat. I find that the drops cause me much less trouble than the "riser" handlebars I used to use sitting nearly upright on my comfort bike. My back is not quite horizontal, so I'm not applying as much weight to my hands as I would have otherwise. Also, the risers only had one position to hold on with - definitely bad news for someone with repetitive motion syndrome.
#8
Thread Starter
Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
From: Munich
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d´Huez, Scott Sub 10, homemade mtb, Radlbauer adler (old city bike), Dahon impulse (folder with 20 inch wheels), haibike eq xduro
Originally Posted by ChuckM
I am also a large rider, and sometimes suffer from carpal tunnel problems. When I got my first road bike this autumn, the LBS fitted me in a position where the stem is not lower than the seat. I find that the drops cause me much less trouble than the "riser" handlebars I used to use sitting nearly upright on my comfort bike. My back is not quite horizontal, so I'm not applying as much weight to my hands as I would have otherwise. Also, the risers only had one position to hold on with - definitely bad news for someone with repetitive motion syndrome.
It has just been my experience that having the bar running more across my hand is more comfortable. I also don´t think that the tape is any substitute for a rubber grip particularly when the bike has no front suspension to even out the bumps.
#9
Thread Starter
Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
From: Munich
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d´Huez, Scott Sub 10, homemade mtb, Radlbauer adler (old city bike), Dahon impulse (folder with 20 inch wheels), haibike eq xduro
Originally Posted by matanza
Suggestion: get a tricycle and ride with no hands...
#10
Immoderator
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,630
Likes: 5
From: POS Tennessee
Bikes: Gary Fisher Simple City 8, Litespeed Obed
Also, run a search on carpal tunnel, pay attention to where the relevant nerves are and don't put as much pressure on them when you ride. It may take time to change your habitual hand positions. ALSO, get some gloves with padding on the palms. I use technical work gloves made for guys who run piledrivers and other vibrating machinery,("Youngstown" brand,) they're just as expensive as cycling gloves, look exactly like mountain gloves and work very well. I hope this helps you.
__________________
Originally Posted by Bikeforums
Your rights end where another poster's feelings begin.
#12
Thread Starter
Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
From: Munich
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d´Huez, Scott Sub 10, homemade mtb, Radlbauer adler (old city bike), Dahon impulse (folder with 20 inch wheels), haibike eq xduro
Originally Posted by krispistoferson
Also, run a search on carpal tunnel, pay attention to where the relevant nerves are and don't put as much pressure on them when you ride. It may take time to change your habitual hand positions. ALSO, get some gloves with padding on the palms. I use technical work gloves made for guys who run piledrivers and other vibrating machinery,("Youngstown" brand,) they're just as expensive as cycling gloves, look exactly like mountain gloves and work very well. I hope this helps you.
#13
Thread Starter
Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
From: Munich
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d´Huez, Scott Sub 10, homemade mtb, Radlbauer adler (old city bike), Dahon impulse (folder with 20 inch wheels), haibike eq xduro
Originally Posted by galen_52657
Seeing as you have way more hand possitions on drop bars, I am not sure if they will, but I guess you will find out. In traffic, I ride on the hoods with a finger on the brakes. Works for me. I hope your settup works for you.
The TT bar also has two basic hand positions so I dont really feel that I am losing out here.
But I guess I will have to try it out and see how it goes.
#14
Lance Hater

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,403
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
Originally Posted by royalflash
I never really felt that I had way more hand positions. I could either have my hands on the hoods (where I couldnt exert enough pressure on the brake lever for my liking) or in the drops and any other hand positions were just minor variations on these themes.
#15
Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
From: Northeast Massachusetts
Bikes: Cannondale R600, Raleigh SC30
Originally Posted by royalflash
I just found that the position of riding on the hoods with the hood pressing in to the middle of my palm was really bad for setting off my carpal tunnel.
#16
DEADBEEF

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 12,234
Likes: 10
From: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
Originally Posted by royalflash
I never really felt that I had way more hand positions.
__________________
1999 K2 OzM
2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
1999 K2 OzM
2001 Aegis Aro Svelte"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
#17
Banned.
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 4,020
Likes: 0
From: Towson, MD
Bikes: 2001 Look KG 241, 1989 Specialized Stump Jumper Comp, 1986 Gatane Performanc
Originally Posted by Laggard
There's also the tops. For me that's a very comfotrable position.
Exactly....
I have 5 hand possitions on drop bars:
Bar tops/flats for climbing, cruising, chilling
Hoods (Thumb over hood) with elbow slightly bent for fast cruising, climbing, urban riding
Hoods (Index and middle finger split over hood) with elbows bent, head down low for fast riding on flats
Drops @ ergo flat for descending, fast riding on flats
'Hooks' (end of drop) - same use as drops but for a change of hand possition
#19
Thread Starter
Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
From: Munich
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d´Huez, Scott Sub 10, homemade mtb, Radlbauer adler (old city bike), Dahon impulse (folder with 20 inch wheels), haibike eq xduro
Originally Posted by khuon
Interesting... I find on my 8-bend Easton EC90 bar that I have at least five basic hand positions with several possible grip and location variations.
I am sure you are right and the number of theoretical positions is greater with a drop bar but if some of them are uncomfortable and far away from the brake levers (that one right near the stem (1) doesnt look to practical and the two in the drops ( 4 and 5) look like quite similar to me) -I dont see that as being such a great thing
Based on the principle that everone else on the forum (and the pro-peloton) has drop bars on their road bikes I must be wrong but they just dont seem that hot to me.
#20
DEADBEEF

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 12,234
Likes: 10
From: Catching his breath alongside a road near Seattle, WA USA
Bikes: 1999 K2 OzM, 2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
Originally Posted by royalflash
If you label every inch of the bar then you can get quite a lot of hand positions.
I am sure you are right and the number of theoretical positions is greater with a drop bar but if some of them are uncomfortable and far away from the brake levers (that one right near the stem (1) doesnt look to practical and the two in the drops ( 4 and 5) look like quite similar to me) -I dont see that as being such a great thing
Based on the principle that everone else on the forum (and the pro-peloton) has drop bars on their road bikes I must be wrong but they just dont seem that hot to me.
I am sure you are right and the number of theoretical positions is greater with a drop bar but if some of them are uncomfortable and far away from the brake levers (that one right near the stem (1) doesnt look to practical and the two in the drops ( 4 and 5) look like quite similar to me) -I dont see that as being such a great thing
Based on the principle that everone else on the forum (and the pro-peloton) has drop bars on their road bikes I must be wrong but they just dont seem that hot to me.

Also, I'm not saying your setup is bad. If it works for you then who am I to argue?
__________________
1999 K2 OzM
2001 Aegis Aro Svelte
"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
1999 K2 OzM
2001 Aegis Aro Svelte"Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send." -- Jon Postel, RFC1122
#23
Junior Member
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
I like it! I too have thought about a set up like that. To me drop bars are not as comfortable as a flat bar with bar ends. I also don't buy this hand position crap. Your hands are either horizontal or vertical, drops just put you down a few inches for more aerodynamics, but your hands are still vertical. I would onder if you could put STI's on those bars. Would it work if you placed them somewhere on the bend at the end.
#24
Somewhere in CA

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 816
Likes: 4
I had ultegra 9 STI's on a profile bullhorn bar for a while. I did it because I was too cheap to get the correct aero levers and shifters for my timetrial bike. In my opinion it kinda sucked. It was difficult/awkward for me to shift. Your mileage however may vary.
have fun-
jim
have fun-
jim
#25
Thread Starter
Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,372
Likes: 0
From: Munich
Bikes: Lemond Alpe d´Huez, Scott Sub 10, homemade mtb, Radlbauer adler (old city bike), Dahon impulse (folder with 20 inch wheels), haibike eq xduro
Originally Posted by jim wallace
I like it! I too have thought about a set up like that. To me drop bars are not as comfortable as a flat bar with bar ends. I also don't buy this hand position crap. Your hands are either horizontal or vertical, drops just put you down a few inches for more aerodynamics, but your hands are still vertical. I would onder if you could put STI's on those bars. Would it work if you placed them somewhere on the bend at the end.
) also I couldnt get the brakes on the sides that I wanted. Also I didnt really like the Ultegra STI´s from a maintenance point of view. I like to work on my on bike and they seem quite overly complex and difficult to work on. You cant fully dissasemble them for example. So I decided to do it properly and get rid of the STI´s.





