Trek Vs. Giant...
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Originally Posted by Rain Rider
Trek bikes suck. And people who ride Trek bikes are just brainwashed, corporate *****s. Trek does not innovate, they just copy everybody else, buy up smaller companies putting out better products and turn them into crap.
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[QUOTE=IBRCJohn]...I'll be out loving my bike. QUOTE]
dude, gross.
dude, gross.
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Originally Posted by IBRCJohn
Well, guys, I actually decided on a slightly different bike: I went with a 10 speed 5.2 in the black pearl carbon color. The 10 speed 5.2 isn’t even on trek's website yet.
Now I can’t wait for it to get here!
I decided on the 5.2 non SL for a couple of reasons. The differences between the two were largely just weight. I usually pack a pair of water bottles, so I figure the weight difference really isn’t THAT big of a deal. If the SL had better wheels.... then it would have been harder. Anywho, I thought both the SL paint jobs were ugly, and the sleek black of the 5.2 really did it for me. Decision made. I won't be coming back to this thread, as there will undoubtedly be a dozen people telling me I made a bad decision. I don't care, I'll be out loving my bike.
Thanks for the help though!
Now I can’t wait for it to get here!
I decided on the 5.2 non SL for a couple of reasons. The differences between the two were largely just weight. I usually pack a pair of water bottles, so I figure the weight difference really isn’t THAT big of a deal. If the SL had better wheels.... then it would have been harder. Anywho, I thought both the SL paint jobs were ugly, and the sleek black of the 5.2 really did it for me. Decision made. I won't be coming back to this thread, as there will undoubtedly be a dozen people telling me I made a bad decision. I don't care, I'll be out loving my bike.
Thanks for the help though!
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Originally Posted by phantomcow2
Giant is such a large company, trek is independant so buy them
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Originally Posted by IBRCJohn
Well, guys, I actually decided on a slightly different bike: I went with a 10 speed 5.2 in the black pearl carbon color. The 10 speed 5.2 isn’t even on trek's website yet.
Now I can’t wait for it to get here!
I decided on the 5.2 non SL for a couple of reasons. The differences between the two were largely just weight. I usually pack a pair of water bottles, so I figure the weight difference really isn’t THAT big of a deal. If the SL had better wheels.... then it would have been harder. Anywho, I thought both the SL paint jobs were ugly, and the sleek black of the 5.2 really did it for me. Decision made. I won't be coming back to this thread, as there will undoubtedly be a dozen people telling me I made a bad decision. I don't care, I'll be out loving my bike.
Thanks for the help though!
Now I can’t wait for it to get here!
I decided on the 5.2 non SL for a couple of reasons. The differences between the two were largely just weight. I usually pack a pair of water bottles, so I figure the weight difference really isn’t THAT big of a deal. If the SL had better wheels.... then it would have been harder. Anywho, I thought both the SL paint jobs were ugly, and the sleek black of the 5.2 really did it for me. Decision made. I won't be coming back to this thread, as there will undoubtedly be a dozen people telling me I made a bad decision. I don't care, I'll be out loving my bike.
Thanks for the help though!
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Originally Posted by nnewton123
I think you made a good decision. The black pearl carbon looks SWEET! Some think the frame looks too funky, but they are just haters.
I read or heard somewhere that you won't benefit from aero type parts until you hit about 28mph. Well, just to make sure I reap the benefits from that sexy-aero seat tube, I plan to spend all my time on the bike above 28mph
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Originally Posted by Iron Chef
Trek, 6 time winner of the Tour de France. How many tours has the Chinese bike won? Just curious.
For somebody deciding on what bike to buy, what bike won the TdF (or Giro or Vuelta or Paris-Roubaix etc.) this is a non-contributing factor.
Regards.
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WOOHOO!!!!
I personally love that aero seat tube on the TREKs. So cool looking. For me, a slower rider, I would get one just for that. The coolness factor has it's personal rewards. I really like the traditional Trek geometry. It just looks more like a real mans bike. No offense to gals on here, but the Giants do look like womens bikes.
When I got my semi-compact frame, I was really worried about how much slope there was. Luckily there is much less than a Giant, because if it was worse than it is, I would have returned the frame, and bought something else.
I know it really doesn't matter much perfmance wise, but for me it is just personal taste.
I personally love that aero seat tube on the TREKs. So cool looking. For me, a slower rider, I would get one just for that. The coolness factor has it's personal rewards. I really like the traditional Trek geometry. It just looks more like a real mans bike. No offense to gals on here, but the Giants do look like womens bikes.
When I got my semi-compact frame, I was really worried about how much slope there was. Luckily there is much less than a Giant, because if it was worse than it is, I would have returned the frame, and bought something else.
I know it really doesn't matter much perfmance wise, but for me it is just personal taste.
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Originally Posted by IBRCJohn
Bah, I said I wouldn't be back in this thread, but what the hell
I read or heard somewhere that you won't benefit from aero type parts until you hit about 28mph. Well, just to make sure I reap the benefits from that sexy-aero seat tube, I plan to spend all my time on the bike above 28mph
I read or heard somewhere that you won't benefit from aero type parts until you hit about 28mph. Well, just to make sure I reap the benefits from that sexy-aero seat tube, I plan to spend all my time on the bike above 28mph
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Oh, and now you guys have to advise me on pedals...
Speedplay Zeroe's
Ultegra SPD-SL
Time Impact Mag
or other? Look, Crank brothers?
Lemme know!
Speedplay Zeroe's
Ultegra SPD-SL
Time Impact Mag
or other? Look, Crank brothers?
Lemme know!
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Originally Posted by IBRCJohn
Oh, and now you guys have to advise me on pedals...
Speedplay Zeroe's
Ultegra SPD-SL
Time Impact Mag
or other? Look, Crank brothers?
Lemme know!
Speedplay Zeroe's
Ultegra SPD-SL
Time Impact Mag
or other? Look, Crank brothers?
Lemme know!
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Ultegra spd-sl, I like them so much that I'm putting them onto my new campy-equipped bike.
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go with LOOK. they've won more tour de france titles...
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Originally Posted by dog hair
go with LOOK. they've won more tour de france titles...
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I am not a fan of Trek, But I will choose the Trek over the Giant
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wow. merry christmas to you, too.
that's a little rude. i wasn't trying to offend anyone. what's your problem? i haven't made a single negative comment(ok, maybe not helpful either) and you pretend like i just pee'd in your gatorade.
i wouldn't try to influence someone else's choice regarding bikes, and i'm not here to pay homage to any manufacturer. i'm sure trek is a fine company compared to what they used to be, but to say that they are any better than the next guy just because they're "designed and manufactured in the USA" is simply foul. the truth is, alot of products -- including bikes -- that are made in china or taiwan are made to a very high standard, and that really cannot be said about most american comapnies, bikes or not.
personally, my money would be spent on a kestrel or specialized. but it's not my money we're talking about, so who really cares?
LOOK pedals(including the shimano knock-offs) have more TDF titles than shimano. even WITH lance armstrong.
better?
that's a little rude. i wasn't trying to offend anyone. what's your problem? i haven't made a single negative comment(ok, maybe not helpful either) and you pretend like i just pee'd in your gatorade.
i wouldn't try to influence someone else's choice regarding bikes, and i'm not here to pay homage to any manufacturer. i'm sure trek is a fine company compared to what they used to be, but to say that they are any better than the next guy just because they're "designed and manufactured in the USA" is simply foul. the truth is, alot of products -- including bikes -- that are made in china or taiwan are made to a very high standard, and that really cannot be said about most american comapnies, bikes or not.
personally, my money would be spent on a kestrel or specialized. but it's not my money we're talking about, so who really cares?
LOOK pedals(including the shimano knock-offs) have more TDF titles than shimano. even WITH lance armstrong.
better?
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Originally Posted by IBRCJohn
Speedplay Zeroe's
Ultegra SPD-SL
Time Impact Mag
or other? Look, Crank brothers?
Ultegra SPD-SL
Time Impact Mag
or other? Look, Crank brothers?
Do you need float?
Do you prefer double sided?
Do you get hot spots (i.e., cannot use a small platform pedal)?
If you need float, that rules out Time, Shimano, Look and others. Your top choice here is Speedplay.
If you prefer double sided, your choices are Speedplay, Crank Bros, Bebop, m2racer (uni-sided)
If you need large platform, that rules out SPDs (the mountain style cleat).
Having used the Shimano (Look style), Shimano SPD, and Speedplay Xs (nearly 20 years worth) ... my choice is the X2, primarily because of right knee issues. In fact, I'm so pleased with my X2s that I'm thinking of switching my Gary Fisher from SPDs to Frogs.
My advice is stick with a true road pedal with a road shoe. Unless you can spend top $, don't buy the top model (X1, Shimano "Lance", Keo, ...) because the model just below that generally is a better bang-for-the-buck buy.
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Hi,
Interesting commentary. Just getting back into cycling after a few years and am looking at the Giant Cypress DX and also the Giant Sedona. I realize these are lower end but think this may be what I need for now, i.e. hybrid, not much off road. I'm leaning towards the Cypress DX. Are there other things I should be considering when choosing the bike (aside from fit)? How would these compare to the Trek Navigator line? What kind of breaking system, gearing, seats etc. would you suggest? Is Shimano still the way to go? It has been a while. I would aprreciate any input. Thanks.
Interesting commentary. Just getting back into cycling after a few years and am looking at the Giant Cypress DX and also the Giant Sedona. I realize these are lower end but think this may be what I need for now, i.e. hybrid, not much off road. I'm leaning towards the Cypress DX. Are there other things I should be considering when choosing the bike (aside from fit)? How would these compare to the Trek Navigator line? What kind of breaking system, gearing, seats etc. would you suggest? Is Shimano still the way to go? It has been a while. I would aprreciate any input. Thanks.
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The 5.2 is a great choice. Congratulations! I actually have a 2005 TCR Composite Limited but I'm sure that I would enjoy the ride of the 5.2 just as much.