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DropDeadFred 04-18-12 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by rkwaki (Post 14113681)
http://www.clarksvillecentury.com/About.html

A few of my boys set that record pace - a 3:44 century. Nice...

lmao...i love the attitude on the site =)

rkwaki 04-18-12 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by DropDeadFred (Post 14113707)
lmao...i love the attitude on the site =)

Agreed, I heard if you are going to do a century it is a lot of fun and it is very quick.

What they don't tell you is who set that pace :)

caloso 04-18-12 10:07 AM

Seems like the major issue with the wheel suckers is the possibility that they'll crash you out. They could also work themselves too far up the line, decide they don't want to get on the front, and cause a gap. Having a gatekeeper at the end of the working paceline can help.

Young Version 04-18-12 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by rkwaki (Post 14113681)
http://www.clarksvillecentury.com/About.html

A few of my boys set that record pace - a 3:44 century. Nice...

Yeah, that's fast. Impressive.

Looigi 04-18-12 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by KevinF (Post 14113529)
LOL? The effect that PamolaPat refers to is real, although I imagine the net effect is pretty much zero at cycling speeds.

According to what I've read, the riders need to be closer together than is possible on two independent bicycles for there to be a significant drag reduction for front rider. Tandem riders can benefit quite a bit having a net drag for the two riders less than that of a single rider.

deacon mark 04-18-12 10:54 AM

I started the other thread on 5 hr just to not steal it but frankly a 5 hr is maybe not a huge deal but I do think it is a very good athletic level of acheivment. Age has a consideration but I say sort of equivalent to a 3:25 marathon. I do think a sub 3 hr marathon is much more difficult. Maybe similar to a 4:15-20 century. I know that cannot compare different activities but sort of If that makes sense

pallen 04-18-12 10:56 AM

Do it solo for true bragging rights :)

StanSeven 04-18-12 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by deacon mark (Post 14114053)
I started the other thread on 5 hr just to not steal it but frankly a 5 hr is maybe not a huge deal but I do think it is a very good athletic level of acheivment. Age has a consideration but I say sort of equivalent to a 3:25 marathon. I do think a sub 3 hr marathon is much more difficult. Maybe similar to a 4:15-20 century. I know that cannot compare different activities but sort of If that makes sense

It all depends on the type of person you are. I've run a sub 3:00 marathon and a bunch in the 3:06-3:11 range. Although I've never tried a solo sub 5:00 century, I'm not the effort is a whole lot different - my personal opinion is a 4:45-4:50 time

jmX 04-18-12 11:21 AM

I think a sub 5 hour century in a pace line is stunt, not an accomplishment. Most anybody in a decent group could pull that off.

As for the camelbak, I use them on all my century rides and it's fine. One of the rides had an avg temp over 100F and it was easily better to have it than to not. I never felt like it made me hot.

DropDeadFred 04-18-12 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by jmX (Post 14114184)
I think a sub 5 hour century in a pace line is stunt, not an accomplishment. Most anybody in a decent group could pull that off.

As for the camelbak, I use them on all my century rides and it's fine. One of the rides had an avg temp over 100F and it was easily better to have it than to not. I never felt like it made me hot.

I'd wager a majority of the the members here couldn't pull off a sub 5hr century with a decent group, me right now included, if I did hang at this point I wouldn't have contributed my part, thats for sure.

I'm hoping for a 24 avg at least on this ride.

Nachoman 04-18-12 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by DropDeadFred (Post 14114282)
I'm hoping for a 24 avg at least on this ride.

You may as well bump it up to 25 mph avg for a 4 hour century. :innocent:

StephenH 04-18-12 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by LowCel (Post 14113531)
Not to be a jerk but a five hour century really isn't that difficult with a group that size. Don't over think it, just go and have a good time.

Speak for yourself. My strategy would be to take a map so I don't get lost when they drop me.

DropDeadFred 04-18-12 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by Nachoman (Post 14114362)
You may as well bump it up to 25 mph avg for a 4 hour century. :innocent:

I'm not saying it's not possible but I'm already talking as though i'll be able to hang...which is doubtful. I figure if I aim for just under 5 and go way under then its even better...

Nachoman 04-18-12 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Commodus (Post 14113607)
I find often that wheelsuckers can be dislodged if everyone in your group is good about slotting in behind the last member of the group, rather than behind the wheelsuckers. They tend to get shifted to the outside, or have to drop back and surge a bit to get back on. Now that's not so hard to do, of course, but if it's happening every 5-10 minutes it gets tiresome, and I guess it makes them feel a bit uncomfortable. I dunno, but generally if a team works as a team and ignores the others behind, they tend to end up by themselves.

I totally agree with this tactic and have done it many times to lazy wheelsuckers.

caloso 04-18-12 11:57 AM

A smart wheelsucker will recognize what's going on and allow the strong guys to slot in ahead of his wheel. Hopefully, you'll get some like that. I don't mind lazy riders, but I do mind clueless squirrels.

mkmartin 04-18-12 12:02 PM

Never ridden this far, never tried to though....

Am I the only one that thinks 20mph for 100 miles is super impressive? Maybe I'm naive but most of the rides I see people doing online are 30-75 miles, always <20mph. And to the marathon-100mph comparison, I think a 3:25 marathon would be much easier than a 5hr century (IMO)

Young Version 04-18-12 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by StanSeven (Post 14114170)
It all depends on the type of person you are. I've run a sub 3:00 marathon and a bunch in the 3:06-3:11 range. Although I've never tried a solo sub 5:00 century, I'm not the effort is a whole lot different - my personal opinion is a 4:45-4:50 time

I'm not sure if this is what you're getting at, but if you're saying you don't think the effort is substantially different between doing it solo vs. in a pace line...you're very wrong.

Five hours solo would be impressive.

caloso 04-18-12 12:05 PM

5 hours solo is impressive. In a group, not so much.

LowCel 04-18-12 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by mkmartin (Post 14114438)
Never ridden this far, never tried to though....

Am I the only one that thinks 20mph for 100 miles is super impressive? Maybe I'm naive but most of the rides I see people doing online are 30-75 miles, always <20mph. And to the marathon-100mph comparison, I think a 3:25 marathon would be much easier than a 5hr century (IMO)

A lot of times a 60 mile ride is harder than 100 mile ride, it all depends on the route. 60 miles with 10,000 feet of climbing can hurt you much more than 100 miles of flat roads.

As for the 5 hour century, if riding solo then you could be correct about the comparison with the 3:25 marathon. However, once you factor in riding with a group a 5 hour century is probably more or less equivelant with a 6 hour solo century.

Hope this makes some kind of sense.

saratoga 04-18-12 12:14 PM

24 average shouldn't be a problem with a decent group but means a lot of hauling ass if you're including stops.

gregf83 04-18-12 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 14114421)
A smart wheelsucker will recognize what's going on and allow the strong guys to slot in ahead of his wheel. Hopefully, you'll get some like that. I don't mind lazy riders, but I do mind clueless squirrels.

If you want to drop the wheelsuckers you need to gap them off. Have the rider who slots in let a gap form forcing the riders behind to accelerate and close it. Just keep doing this until they wear out.

DropDeadFred 04-18-12 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 14114449)
5 hours solo is impressive. In a group, not so much.

ok, saying sub 5 was being gracious on the time side, these guys are fast and chances are they want to do this in 4ish and I'm honestly overwhelmed by the idea.

pallen 04-18-12 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by jmX (Post 14114184)
I think a sub 5 hour century in a pace line is stunt, not an accomplishment. Most anybody in a decent group could pull that off.

Its not hard if you are fast enough to hang with the group ;)

krazygl00 04-19-12 08:06 AM

Here's another take: you're going to have ~5hrs to get to know the wheelsuckers...you might strike up a conversation and suggest they either pull or drop back and form their own group.

Campag4life 04-19-12 08:24 AM

Anybody here do a slightly sub 5 hour century in a pace line and measure average watts with a power meter for the ride?
Curious what average and peak pulling watts are for this effort?


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