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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
(Post 14495815)
Huh? Quick links are used after you shorten it as a way of joining the chain without having to join it with a permanent joining pin that are pRone to incorrect installation and failure.
Nick "gotta make the group ride" Bain |
Helps if you have the removal tool to install it. I know, sounds odd, but you just grab one perm link off the side and the missing link end and squeeze. It will close.
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user error.
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Originally Posted by guadzilla
(Post 14495790)
That's bizarre.
Your riding style - can it be best decribed as "slam-dancing"? I also did try keeping the link squeezed together while installing - even tried it with separate set of pliers to make sure I was applying enough squeeze force. Still fail. |
Originally Posted by zigmeister
(Post 14496255)
Helps if you have the removal tool to install it. I know, sounds odd, but you just grab one perm link off the side and the missing link end and squeeze. It will close.
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Some things just don't work for some people. It's like 1-star reviews on Amazon.
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Just buy another $5 link. Why kill yourself trying to deal with an obviously defective one??
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Originally Posted by coasting
(Post 14496293)
user error.
psimet nailed it, the recent ones are more secure. you ain't undoing them by hand, no way. now if Park Tool would make a quick link plier that fits in a micro seatbag, I'd be happy. (if someone knows of one, link it! *not* the MLP-1. smaller.) |
Originally Posted by ColinL
(Post 14496570)
kind of.
psimet nailed it, the recent ones are more secure. you ain't undoing them by hand, no way. now if Park Tool would make a quick link plier that fits in a micro seatbag, I'd be happy. (if someone knows of one, link it! *not* the MLP-1. smaller.) |
I just yank the chain. Defective link.
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I think there was another thread that mentioned there may be two kinds of KMC 10 speed link. I bought an oem packaged chain from Ribble and I had to install and remove the link several times, off the bike, before it loosened enough to install on-the-bike. I've never experienced this before with KMC or SRAM links.
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I use to love KMC chains but am a little snake bit now by them. Riding home one afternoon I had the quick link either break or separate (never found it so I don't know). It caused me to crash violently. Cost me a Bell Sweep helmet and I had a mild concussion and whiplash. (I posted a thread on it called 'Ouch' if you want to see pics).
I know it was probably a freak one off deal but I've been hesitant to put another on because, frankly, that was a darn painful crash. |
i had this problem recently too. you have my sympathies.
for me, it snapped on easily when i placed the link on the top - between the chainring and cog. then push on the pedal while applying the break. missing links are cheap. get a few extra and just use a chain removal tool if it gives you trouble. there's part of me that wonders if there is a subtle technique to using this thing. otherwise i don't understand how it could work so well for some and not at all for others. |
My experience agrees with others here. I think your experience is very unusual. That kind of trouble is not normal. You either have a defective, slightly out-of-spec link or you're putting the wrong link on the wrong chain or something.
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This may not be the issue but missing links come in several sizes for 8-9, 10, and 11 speed chain. Could the link be for 11 speed chain and the OP has a 10 speed chain? I'm not sure of the width difference between the two. Is it possible that the link was mis-packaged? An 11-speed link in a 10-speed package?
I'm using Wippermann (Connex) chain and link and it's been flawless. Comes apart in a second. It takes longer to locate the link on the chain than to unhook it. Re-hooking it take 2-3 seconds. This is on 10-speed Campy. |
Wipperman links are easier because they have that funky heart-shaped inset. But you can't buy six for $10 like KMC.
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If you hate KMC, just change brands. Use the ones that you think will be easier to use, there's no sense in trying the same thing and expect a different outcome. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by drbenjamin
(Post 14495684)
I buy KMC links by the card. I had one just like the OP is describing, and I have used them for years with no issue. I tried for about 5 min to get it to close, then opened another. The other 5 on the card were fine. I presume it's rare, but I'm pretty sure that an occasional out-of-spec link shows up.
I've been using KMC links for around 15 years and never had this problem before. |
I think KMC has some QC issues with their Missing Links. I just recently had one blow up on me for no apparent reason. One of the pins actually separated from its plate, leaving my chain connected by a single plate and two pins. I noticed it immediately and pulled over to fix (with the spare I just happened to have in my saddle pack). Now I'm having trouble trusting its replacement. I think I'll likely just abandon the use of a quick link and put my chain together with a Shimano pin instead.
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OP here - my missing link came with the chain in the same box as a chain set, so it was definitely matched to the chain.
I just ordered a bunch of extras just in case I need them down the road. |
Originally Posted by hhnngg1
(Post 14498221)
OP here - my missing link came with the chain in the same box as a chain set, so it was definitely matched to the chain.
I just ordered a bunch of extras just in case I need them down the road. PS--My 9 speed Whipperman link works flawlessly, can be removed by hand, and is easier to put on. They add 1 or 2 more coggs, and the whole world gets out of whack! |
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