There are plenty of poseurs here. Most of the freds are in touring or hybrid forums.

You'd be wrong on that count.

On a related note, they add about a grand to the cost of the bike. For the people here who ride budget racers, weight reduction probably costs about a buck a gram, so offsetting what's added by the kickstand would not be cheap.

That's a lot for something so useless. May as well put chrome bumpers on a new Ferrari.

And the biggest reason is that they're unreliable at doing their job. It doesn't take much wind to blow a bike over when it's on a kickstand. I see it happen all the time, living as I do by the ocean.

But to each his/her own. I have no use for the thing. Even though I have a cruiser bike with a kickstand, on those occasions when I ride it, I lay the bike down. It's safe on the ground.

If you use a kick stand, we will have to kill this kitten.

I think I remember reading somewhere on BF that all road cyclist were welcome in the 41 execept for those that use kick stands.

Official Rule N+1: Thou Shalt NOT install or allow to be installed on any road bike intended for posing, riding of carbon bicycles or racing: a Kickstand.

Just in case... here is one.

+1, I would never consider putting a kickstand on my bike but this being able to fold and fit in my jersey pocket doesn't seem to bad. I think I'll still just lean it against something close though.

To be honest, I only have one bike (gasp, what the hell?) and I use it for commuting as well as exercise riding and the occasional grocery trip, so I appreciate the kickstand I have (mounted on the rear triangle) to stabilize the bike while I load the folding baskets with groceries. But that's pretty much the only time I use it.

That looks like a Greenfield kickstand. Greenfield makes a different head that will give clearance for the cables. It will still probably rub on your particular hybrid, but it should work better than what you have now. This one:

Screw all the jerks here that are making fun of you. I say use a kickstand with pride, and don't be ashamed of those streamers that you have on your handlebars either!

There is no way I would clamp a kick stand on my carbon frame when I can carry a folding tent poll that fits my pocket and weighs 50 grams. I have been using a Click Stand for six years and does what a kick stand does without the extra problems and weight associated with a kick stand.

It weighs three times what a Click Stand weighs otherwise and you need to bend over to put in on. Otherwise, I guess it will get the job done.

That's pretty cool! I wouldn't use one, personally, but it's done a good job of addressing a lot of the problems people have mentioned.

This is the truth. Kickstands are completely unnecessary (unless you just went shopping, have nowhere to lean the bike, and need to load your panniers up - I can see how one would be helpful there) and people don't want heavy things hanging off their bike if they can avoid it. Doubly so when it's not just avoidable, but almost useless.

I tend to prefer just leaning the bike flat against the ground (drive side up!) because a gust of wind won't take it down, and neither will anything else, like a kid or an animal. But either way is fine.

A tree as a kickstand:


The ground as a kickstand:

That's not bad. An online calculator says my kickstand weighs about 90,000 pounds - a mature, inland Douglas fir.

Sign as kickstand:

A tree as a kickstand:


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You ride that bike down logging roads? What does your "good" bike look like?

Sure, if you live in a forrest, you just lean your bike against a tree but I live in a Southern California. I do group rides that have hundreds of people on them. All the trees or walls at the stop already have bikes leaning against them and I don't want to lay my bike on the ground for someone to trip over. On the rides I do, there are hundreds of people milling around. The other solution for me would to ride faster so that I get to the stop before the masses and I am working on that.

We lean ours on each others bikes.

Aw, that's cute. Your bikes cuddle because they're in love. For some reason that reminds me of this:

That could work but on the rides I do everyone is coming and going at different times.

That's the good bike. The road is paved for about 10 miles, and then changes to dirt at this point, for another 13 miles. I started at the nearest town (about 25 mile away?) and turned around when the pavement ended. I took the bike about 100 yards on the dirt, because I'd never been to the place before, and the scenery blew my mind, I wanted to see more.

If this is the part of the thread where we post photos of our bikes (leaning up against makeshift kickstands) here are a few more.

A sign post makes a good stand:


The guard rail will do in a pinch:






Even a log can work:


I've gone so far as to use a snow bank!

Why stop at the bumpers?

Even with panniers, I don't like them. Or maybe especially with panniers. Stands sink into ground that is not really hard, aren't very good on surfaces that aren't flat, and it takes nothing to knock the bike over if you have something heavy attached to it. I haven't had a bike with a kickstand since I was a teenager. There was a time I thought they were indispensable, but I can't remember ever wishing I had one since getting a bike that didn't have one. Except for when I'm in town, I almost always lay the bike on the ground even if there is something to lean it up against. Bikes on the ground never get knocked over...
You put regular water bottles in you cages? I've done that in emergencies, but they don't seem to hold nearly as well as bike bottles.

I don't believe in kickstands but I do like to modify/fabricate things to work the way I want them to.
Can you shorten(cut or buy a shorter one) the screw & install it from the bottom? Or buy a screw with a shallower head.