So as many of you know I just built up a new bike with DA 9000, and I love it, the sifting is smooth and trustworthy. I now have the chance to get the 9070 derailleurs, shifters, etc at cost. No real reason to do so other than to upgrade and sell off the 9000 stuff which only has a couple hundred miles on it. I dunno, seems like it's not worthwhile, even at cost it's still a bundle. My plan was to wait a couple of years but... is it really that good?

I cancelled my order on 9070 and saving the money for it on my new bike next year. I will currently live with ultegra di2 and I also have 2012 sram red.

Electronics hands down, I regret not putting electronics on my sram bike.

Are we still having these threads? I've had Di2 for 4 years now and love it!

If i could get the upgrade pieces at cost, I'd jump on it in a heartbeat myself. But then i like Di2, and then you'll be golden for a couple of years.

Too expensive.

Kind of what I was thinking plus I can still sell my stuff with only a few rides on them I guess (albeit it would be sold sans chain or cassette so that may hold some people back). The wiring would be external though which is a little messy

Sounds like an excuse to buy an electronic ready frame! Honestly, if its external you might want to wait, just because of aesthetics. And the 9000 must be nice anyhow.

I know I'm in the minority, but I had mixed feelings when I test-rode DI2. Yeah, I liked the precision of it and I liked how I could shift under almost any circumstances, even when I did deliberately stupid stuff like shifting under load on a steep climb. But there was something about the ***sound***. DI2 has a sharp *kthunk* sound when it shifts, and good well-adjusted mechanical shifts are just those soft clicks.

I think I would appreciate DI2 more over time, as mechanical derailleurs drift out of alignment and need to be readjusted now and again.

The DA DI2 is the Bugatti Veyron of cycling amazing but so not worth the price...cool indeed and yes if we all had a ton of cash why not get it. But Value? a big nope.

Yeah, twisting a barrel adjuster a tiny bit can be exhausting.

It can be a pain. One click may not be enough, ride, another twist, and another. Then it's too much, back a twist. Its nice to never have to bother. I'm 7 months now and haven't touched a thing

I can say the exact thing about my Sora bike!

It isn't so much the barrel adjuster twisting that's a PITA, it is having to wait for my SAG vehicle to come pick me up, then drive us all to the LBS, wait for them to fit me in and let them make the half-twist, then driving everyone back to where I had to stop....now all that is a PITA

Last May I replaced my rear dérailleur and cables. A few days later I adjusted for stretch, and haven't needed to touch them since. NBD

My Red shifts quickly and properly every time, under all sorts of conditions imaginable. However, "soft clicks" are not something I would ever attribute to its sound.

Cables have a lot to do with that though. I have Gore on one bike and the der. cable needs adjusted about every 700-800 miles

I agree, my sram red when changing down to the smaller cogs is extremely loud, precise but damn loud.

Strange. The only time I adjust is after the initial break in. These cables have almost 13,000 miles of use, and the last time I touched them was probably last June.

Yeah I think I'm going to sit on this a bit. Even at cost by the time I'm done with the derailleurs, shifters, battery, etc I'm over 1400 and I doubt I could sell my current stuff for more than 600. I'm sure that as more product comes on line there will be a kit or something. Or I just wait until a good deal on internal frame routing comes up. Much as I love the idea, there's really no reason and I absolutely love the DA 9000 it is pretty freaking flawless

I put my vote on mechanical shifters. The electric just takes you away from that "feel" of what's happening. If you want performance; go with Red or DA 9000. If you want bling; go with Di2

Yup the 9000 is what I have and it is very sweet

Personally, I think Di2 is about much more than "bling" but that's just my opinion, and I'm sure bling discussion in general has been beat to death.

FWIW, a few weeks ago I did a poll on RBR titled " Do you like electronic shifting? FOR THOSE WITH ACTUAL RIDE EXPERIENCE" and the results (49 responses) were 63% yea and 37% nay.

I do not own a bike with Di2, but the very first time I test-rode a bike with one, I knew after that ride that a Di2 (Dura Ace) is gonna be a part of my cycling future very soon. Most people who poo-poo Di2 have never rode it, and sure, you can argue about value, but there is no questioning that this is where cycling (even for enthusiasts) is headed. And it is nice!

I looked at Di2 pretty seriously - my friend/wrench/LBS owner has it and loves it. My conclusion: Di2 is sweet, but it's a luxury for the vast majority of amateur riders, including me.The exceptions might be the very serious sprinters, for whom a single, time lay, precise shift can make all the difference.