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04-24-13 | 02:21 PM

#26

dalava

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Originally Posted by nastystang

hope it meets his needs.

Could be "her"

04-24-13 | 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rkwaki

Seems to be a current trend amongst pros. Riding much smaller framesets and using monster stems.

I ride a 53 and should be on a 55/56.

Are you a pro because your bike is too small or is your bike too small because you are a pro?

04-24-13 | 08:07 PM

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Check out THIS stem.

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04-24-13 | 08:50 PM

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I don't understand people who use long stems but they have their seats push forward.

Someone explain that to me.

04-24-13 | 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Biscayne05

I don't understand people who use long stems but they have their seats push forward.

Someone explain that to me.

Long torso, stubby legs.

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04-24-13 | 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Biscayne05

I don't understand people who use long stems but they have their seats push forward.

Someone explain that to me.

Because seat position should only be adjusted relative to the BB, based on a combination of rider's lower body dimension and personal preference, regardless of reach needs dictated by upper body dimensions. IOW, you shouldn't use seat position to adjust reach.

04-24-13 | 11:12 PM

#32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bikerjp

Are you a pro because your bike is too small or is your bike too small because you are a pro?

yes.

04-24-13 | 11:20 PM

#33

LesterOfPuppets

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Dang, I have a 160mm stem which usually wins the longest stem battles.

165mm???? ARRRGHHHHHH!

04-24-13 | 11:37 PM

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Nick Bain

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I have seat forward and 90 mm stem

. But I paid 250 to get that figured out, so it stays.

04-25-13 | 07:20 AM

#35

Menel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by calgary_jim

You know, I just don't understand why. The pro's ride small frames, long stems and seat posts that look like flag poles. Mine would be too big by their standards but I love it. Why the trend?

Frame geometry not just size. See sig pics, two bikes, 3 contact points saddle/bars/crank are all in the same alignment around two completely different frame geometries.

The Roubaix is a classic, stretched out, flat top tube design, just a small sprig of seat mast.

The Helix is a more modern compact design, towering seat mast.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbresciani

Smaller frame, less material, lighter bike? Although with those long stems I would think it would be a wash.

Stems weigh next to nothing. It's a little bit of material on one tube, versus little bit of material on a lot of tubes.

Most likely comes back to stiffness.

Long stems have more stable steering, 100mile road races in a peloton, stable slow steering is nice. The reverse could be said for a criterium type race, so I dunno if that really plays much into it.

Also a smaller frame is easier to fit. Standover is definite. Longer seatpost, longer stems is easier than the alternative.

04-25-13 | 08:36 AM

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My stems bigger than your stem!!!!!

04-25-13 | 08:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by squatchy

My stems bigger than your stem!!!!!

Bet the guy with that stem is faster than you.

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04-25-13 | 03:18 PM

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It's not the length of your stem that counts, it's knowing how to use it. Or so I've been told.

04-26-13 | 10:59 AM

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My stem is as round as it is long LOL

04-26-13 | 11:58 AM

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Stem size don't matter, its how fast you can pedal.

04-29-13 | 07:37 AM

#41

mattheis

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Quote:

Originally Posted by escarpment

Check out THIS stem.

Cinelli Pin-up stem is hot! (this must be the modern threadless version)

04-29-13 | 11:24 AM

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Funny. What's old is new. Back in the day, 135 cinelli was pretty common.

04-29-13 | 11:27 AM

#43

LesterOfPuppets

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This looks longer than my 160mm. Looks kinda funny with 4" risers.

04-29-13 | 01:46 PM

#44

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A 110mm 25 degree riser stem gives about the reach of a 90mm 6 degree, so if you run a couple spacers you could ditch those and get a longer stem and end up with the same reach and drop.

04-29-13 | 02:37 PM

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04-29-13 | 05:41 PM

#46

escarpment

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That is a stem^^^

04-29-13 | 06:26 PM

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04-29-13 | 06:38 PM

#48

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My hand-me-down Lemond Zurich has some beast of a stem. My friend who is like 3" taller was riding on this, and said it made HIM uncomfortable. I've just been living with it the last few years....I keep meaning to try out something shorter.