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Old 02-16-05 | 10:02 PM
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I'm looking at getting a new set of pedals. I'm looking specifically at the Time RXS, and Speedplay Zero. If anyone has any recomendations, or advice, let me know.
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Old 02-16-05 | 11:42 PM
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I am extremely happy with the look keos.
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Old 02-16-05 | 11:46 PM
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And I am extreamly happy with my Speedplay X series. More float that the Zero and Time. I think that you will be pleased with either the French company - Time, or the California company, Speedplay.
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Old 02-17-05 | 12:18 AM
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I love my speedplay x models also... great pedal, perfect amount of float for me also...
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Old 02-17-05 | 05:59 AM
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I went throught this decision myself and after some substantial consideration, including looking at Keos, went with the Time RXS Ti.

Why? More adjustability, lightness, and bang for the buck. The Keos are essentially non adjustable. The Speedplays are adjustable for float but contrary to FoxFarm they are not as adjustable as the Times. One of my biggest issues now is that it takes time to try out the many possible adjustments.

The Speedplay pedal is small and cute but the cleat is large and ugly. The bearing action on the Speedplays is not what I would have expected - that is it does not freely spin using hand pressure. Does this really tell us anything? I really don't know but it surprised me.

The Times are also the lightest in the Ti version when you factor in the weight of the cleat. Well I think they are since Speedplay won't tell you what their cleats weigh which tells me that they are not light. The Keo Ti's are 5g lighter but given their price and the lack of adjustability they were no longer in the consideration. Remember Speedplay gives you weight per pedal not per pair.

There are alot of other reasons the Time's are the best including platform area, cleats that you can actually walk in comfortable (le Cafe Cleat) and the lowest height off the pedal spindle but I'll let Time provide the explanation:

https://www.timesportusa.com/pedals/r...an_carbon.html

https://www.timesportusa.com/pedals/t...ti_carbon.html

I got my RXS Ti for $258.00 delivered. After my century this weekend I'll be able to tell you more.

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Old 02-17-05 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakey
I am extremely happy with the look keos.
I echo this thought. I had some hesitation before buying them, because of the keo specific cleat. I now know I made the absolute right decision. I was shocked at how crisp they felt the first time I clicked in.
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Old 02-17-05 | 07:23 AM
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................- that is it does not freely spin using hand pressure. Does this really tell us anything? I really don't know but it surprised me.

The Times are also the lightest in the Ti version when you factor in the weight of the cleat. Well I think they are since Speedplay won't tell you what their cleats weigh which tells me that they are not light. The Keo Ti's are 5g lighter but given their price and the lack of adjustability they were not longer in the consideration. Remember Speedplay gives you weight per pedal not per pair.

I got my RXS Ti for $258.00 delivered. After my century this weekend I'll be able to tell you more.
Want information about Speedplay? Try their homepage. How difficult can that be.

And yes, the cleats do weigh more than *standards*. About 100g (pair)
That makes a pair of X/1 incl. cleats and hardware a total of 260g(pair),
while a pair of RSX Ti is all the way down at 200g + cleats and hardware.
Cleats and hardware for impact has a weight of 112g (pair), I doubt the
RSX is down more than 50%.
The Speedplay gives you a stack height of 8.5mm. Is RSX really better than 8.5?

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Old 02-17-05 | 08:25 AM
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I love my Speedplay Zero's. The best is dialing in just the amount of float I want.
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Old 02-17-05 | 09:01 AM
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The Speedplay gives you a stack height of 8.5mm. Is RSX really better than 8.5?
that's 8.5mm for 4-hole mounting. given that nearly all shoes are 3-hole, the speedplays
require a shim and the stack height increases. i think it is still very low...something like
11mm.
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Old 02-17-05 | 09:31 AM
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that's 8.5mm for 4-hole mounting. given that nearly all shoes are 3-hole, the speedplays
require a shim and the stack height increases. i think it is still very low...something like
11mm.
Yes of course. You’re absolutely right.
I didn’t cross my mind that some actually use the 3 hole option. Get’s heavier too.
Now there’s even less 4-hole shoes on the marked, as Time stopped
producing. They now use DMT sole. Think the Adistar Frosco 4-hole
is close to impossible to get too.
Diadora still make use of adapterplates, and there's of course Lust and Rocket7
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Old 02-17-05 | 11:08 AM
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I love my Speedplay Zero's. The best is dialing in just the amount of float I want.
I love the adjustable float, but more important to me is that it also controls the release angle. I like having that pretty tight, as my aging knees and hips don't care for extreme angles.
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Old 02-17-05 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Lectron
Want information about Speedplay? Try their homepage. How difficult can that be.

And yes, the cleats do weigh more than *standards*. About 100g (pair)

The Speedplay gives you a stack height of 8.5mm. Is RSX really better than 8.5?
Whoa Nellie. You own stock in Speedplay or something?

Since your response uses the word "about" in relation to the cleat weight then you don't know what it is. I've looked that the Speedplay website before to find out the cleat weight information and have not found it. Obviously neither have you. Like I said before if they wanted you to know what it was they would tell you.

Conversely had you checked the links I provided you would know that the stack height for the RSX's is 8mm. Which beats 8.5 and very much beats 11.

Of course you could play the "well its French" card but aren't you Norwegian?
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Old 02-17-05 | 03:52 PM
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Whoa Nellie. You own stock in Speedplay or something?

Since your response uses the word "about" in relation to the cleat weight then you don't know what it is. I've looked that the Speedplay website before to find out the cleat weight information and have not found it. Obviously neither have you. Like I said before if they wanted you to know what it was they would tell you.

Conversely had you checked the links I provided you would know that the stack height for the RSX's is 8mm. Which beats 8.5 and very much beats 11.

Of course you could play the "well its French" card but aren't you Norwegian?
There is at least two places on their site where you can find the weight.
https://www.speedplay.com/ and https://www.speedplay.com/

Weight weenies says 95-110 (pair w/hardware)

The Time pedals are probably great. They've really solved the float problem as well,
but they wheren't around when I purchased my first speedplays. Well you had the impact,
but they had (have) rather big stack height.
Just wanted to let people know the information was there.

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Old 02-17-05 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lectron
There is at least two places on their site where you can find the weight.
https://www.speedplay.com/ and https://www.speedplay.com/

Weight weenies says 95-110 (pair w/hardware)
Good researching Lectron. Since the comparison chart did not include either the Keo's or the RSX's I did not check it.

The Speedplays are still the coolest looking pedals and they have one major advantage in that you can enter them on either side. Now if they would only do something with those cleats. Can't wait to try the new Time cleats at Starbucks. That's a true test.

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Old 02-17-05 | 05:39 PM
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Old 02-17-05 | 09:23 PM
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I'm looking at getting a new set of pedals. I'm looking specifically at the Time RXS, and Speedplay Zero. If anyone has any recomendations, or advice, let me know.

Ultegra's, Amazing pedals, i was indispute between the chromo speedplay and the shiman, i decide the shimanos because of how easier it is to clip in and ut and how much the cleat is less complex, so i didnt have to keep putting covers on the cleats.
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Old 02-17-05 | 11:26 PM
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I didn't know Ultegra had pedals. I thought only Dura-Ace?
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Old 02-18-05 | 08:41 AM
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I didn't know Ultegra had pedals. I thought only Dura-Ace?
They also have an even cheaper 105-sl version. I have the ultegra, not sure how the 105's perform, but I love ultegras.

Edit: to add pics. Black one is the 105, silver is the ultegra
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Old 02-18-05 | 09:32 AM
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I imagine they would be the same as the components of the same name sake; excellent value, but you get what you pay for, yes?
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A consideration with Speedplays... a lot of people I know swear by them, but the cleats seem to be kind of finicky... since the attachment hardware is in the cleat they require relatively frequent lubrication and seem to be susceptable to dirt, etc. The upshot is they have to be replaced more often than standard cleats and are relatively expensive.
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Old 02-21-05 | 11:03 AM
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I am extremely happy with the look keos.
I have them, TWO. First set on the Mondo. Like them so well. But them on My ther bike as tos replace the Shimis.
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Old 02-21-05 | 06:12 PM
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Thanks for the tips. I decided to go with a pair of the RXS Carbon.
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