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clausen 05-08-13 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by rousseau (Post 15604237)
That's odd. But no, people out west definitely do not use the term "cottage" to mean a little place out by the lake. In Manitoba, where I lived for a few years, they say "out at the lake."

So no, the term doesn't transcend provincial borders. I've never been to Canmore, but that's a town, anyway. Nobody would call a house in the equivalent town in Ontario such as Bracebridge a "cottage," because it's not a seasonal cabin kind of place with minimal amenities on the edge of a lake. If you had a place in Canmore, it was probably a little house, or "cottage."

Even up here 1 hour north of Cottage country, they call it camp. Mind you most pull them behind there trucks and are squatting.

JohnDThompson 05-08-13 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller (Post 15598390)
Shimano had a version of this many years ago, pre brifter days. As they usually do, they moved on ahead of the competition.

By "moving ahead of the competition" are you referring to the eccentric cam brake release on current calipers?

http://media.nashbar.com/images/nash...-NCL-FRONT.jpg

Campagnolo had that back in 1969:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/record-brake-1969.jpg

And many others copied the design, e.g. Zeus, SunTour, Spidel, and even Shimano.

rpenmanparker 05-08-13 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 15605101)
By "moving ahead of the competition" are you referring to the eccentric cam brake release on current calipers?

http://media.nashbar.com/images/nash...-NCL-FRONT.jpg

Campagnolo had that back in 1969:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/record-brake-1969.jpg

And many others copied the design, e.g. Zeus, SunTour, Spidel, and even Shimano.

I thought he meant the caliper opening function in the lever instead of the caliper.

Ferrous Bueller 05-09-13 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 15605130)
I thought he meant the caliper opening function in the lever instead of the caliper.

Yes. I was poking fun at Shimano abandoning this feature before Campy. Here's an example from the Sante group, circa 1897.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IJWmejgFtp...ake+Levers.jpg
Oops! I meant 1987.

rpenmanparker 05-09-13 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller (Post 15606148)
Yes. I was poking fun at Shimano abandoning this feature before Campy. Here's an example from the Sante group, circa 1897.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IJWmejgFtp...ake+Levers.jpg
Oops! I meant 1987.

Boy you don't hear about that much any more. I had Sante on the original Trek 200 aluminum frame back in '87.

JohnDThompson 05-09-13 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 15605130)
I thought he meant the caliper opening function in the lever instead of the caliper.

Those have been around for at least half a century as well:

http://www.velobase.com/CompImages/B...A8194BA7D.jpeg

http://www.velobase.com/CompImages/B...6F29C3E48.jpeg

blarnie 05-09-13 07:30 PM

What's not funny is the lack of familiarity with the machine that one rides with in group situations. Calls into question the veracity of the inclusion of such.

gadabout007 05-10-13 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by rpenmanparker (Post 15604432)
I was guessing he meant your stable of bikes needed a dental income to support it.

Lol that's just silly. I have four bikes and would only consider one of them expensive. There are folks on this forum who have one bike worth more than all of mine.


Originally Posted by rousseau (Post 15604237)
That's odd. But no, people out west definitely do not use the term "cottage" to mean a little place out by the lake. In Manitoba, where I lived for a few years, they say "out at the lake."

Whatever bud :rolleyes:

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Arg...b6f_445390.jpg

Bob Dopolina 05-10-13 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller (Post 15601887)
There's not much to know. Aside from some spelling and vocabulary, it's the US minus the NRA and megachurches.

"You don't really have a culture. Yer just like us without Guns and God." Quick note, Canada has both but they're just not calling the shots. Without a culture based on fear neither one holds much sway.

Spend some real time there and you'll see that there are a host of similarities (shared common experiences) but an equally great number of differences beyond spelling. Some of those differences may be good and some not so good (depending on the point of view of the person making that call) but they are significant differences nonetheless.

What's really interesting for me is the fact that I have an equal number of American, Canadian and British expat friends as well as some Aussies and a few Kiwis and of all of those I find myself better able to understand and identify with my American friends than the others can but, at the same time, I have a much easier time relating to my Brit, Aussie and Kiwi friends than my American friends do.

It's like Canadians have a toe in each culture and can baffle either side of the pond equally well at any given moment.

Regarding the thumb shifter, it is a far superior way to shift while sprinting in the drops or climbing. Based on my experience, those who complain about it have either not used it for very long or have their levers jacked a la Shimano as opposed to following the Campagnolo guidelines for installation and adjustment.

Of course there will always be those who prefer Shimano or Sram for one reason or another, and they are wholly entitled to do so, but ragging on the thumb shifter is just weak sauce.


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