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Old 07-06-13, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH...
Coming from a non play off team fanboy who roots for NY and lives in Texas? I refer you to last years standings. NFC eastern division champs.. Washington Redskins. The runner up trophy's are at the end of the hallway, in the outhouse ...
Yeah, it's been rough being a Giants fan recently. Only two Super Bowl victories over the vile Patriots of Boston. Somehow we manage to get to sleep at night, after a good bout of crying.
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Maybe Tyler and Floyd should show up too
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Eight pages. Paging @halfspeed, remember when you thought this wouldn't make it past one?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Eight pages. Paging @halfspeed, remember when you thought this wouldn't make it past one?
It's a thread about LA. What did you expect? It either goes the distance, or someone posts something that offends the mods and it gets closed.
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Originally Posted by kenji666
It's a thread about LA. What did you expect? It either goes the distance, or someone posts something that offends the mods and it gets closed.
Well, I predicted 8 pages. Halfspeed thought it would be counted it posts, not pages.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Well, I predicted 8 pages. Halfspeed thought it would be counted it posts, not pages.
I thought it would get derailled and closed.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Um, as much as I think that Eli is a ****er, he does have 2 Lombardi trophies in the last 6 years...
I was referring to the current NFC division champs...and yes Eli is a ****er.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Yeah, it's been rough being a Giants fan recently. Only two Super Bowl victories over the vile Patriots of Boston. Somehow we manage to get to sleep at night, after a good bout of crying.
Did you get your last years 2nd place shirts?
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Better than 3rd place Cowgirl shirts though ....
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Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH...
I was referring to the current NFC division champs...and yes Eli is a ****er.
As a butt-hurt Charger fan, I will concur.
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Amusingly, I actually like that Eli is a ****er. It makes him more relatable, to me, than someone like Brady. All that and still a double champion. Let the haters hate.
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Originally Posted by halfspeed
I thought it would get derailled
Whew! Good thing we stayed on topic.
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Originally Posted by Rowan
Personally, I think that if he held a signing of any LA memorabilia that people brought with them, the line-up from the table would be several blocks long... five abreast.

There are still a huge number of people who believe LA has been deeply wronged by the system, and can't see past that to understand the nastier parts of the saga.

It's an interesting aspect how people think of the villains in our society, some of whom even go on to achieve hero status.
And I present you exhibit Number One:

Originally Posted by rangerdavid
for the uneducated, having a Tour de France winner, regardless of the doping issue, and one of the greatest cyclists of all time riding your ride is a great draw.


i.e. it is a positive thing
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Originally Posted by Rowan
And I present you exhibit Number One:
On this front I definitely agree with you.
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Originally Posted by lenA
more delusional than brave, in my opinion
Well, there's that.
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I am personally thrilled that Lance Armstrong will ride Ragbrai this year. Cycling owes him a debt of gratitude and an apology for not acknowledging the problem without before the politically correct and thought police took over. For 100 years everyone knew it was not possible to do the Tour without help. There's no way to overcome the oxygen debt and rebuild the body overnight for 21 straight days over 2,700 miles. Anyone who thinks you can ride the Tour on a Huffy and a buttered croissant is delusional. You don't don't have to like Lance, but respect his accomplishments.
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Originally Posted by chamois_buttr
I am personally thrilled that Lance Armstrong will ride Ragbrai this year. Cycling owes him a debt of gratitude and an apology for not acknowledging the problem without before the politically correct and thought police took over. For 100 years everyone knew it was not possible to do the Tour without help. There's no way to overcome the oxygen debt and rebuild the body overnight for 21 straight days over 2,700 miles. Anyone who thinks you can ride the Tour on a Huffy and a buttered croissant is delusional. You don't don't have to like Lance, but respect his accomplishments.
A personal observation only. I'm not sure anyone but the real haters respect the accomplishments (I was not a Lance fan for many years before the truth finally came out). What drives a lot of the dislike, IMO, was his phoniness, starting with some aspects of his life story before the cancer, his confrontational attitude toward the early accusations, his using his clout and his lawyers to ruin people who did speak the truth about his drug usage, or who did not go along with the doping and the subsequent cover-ups. I have no doubt that some of the denials were an attempt to preserve the foundation, which has done a lot of good work. I suspect much more was to preserve his ego. I can only see some of his actions as driven by that ego, in particular his seeming need to enter races, where he should have no need, either monetarily or to prove anything. FWIW, I did not see any reason other than ego to go for the last two tour wins, where historically riders had retired, despite still being capable of competing at a high level.

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Does the end justify the means?
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Originally Posted by chamois_buttr
I am personally thrilled that Lance Armstrong will ride Ragbrai this year. Cycling owes him a debt of gratitude and an apology for not acknowledging the problem without before the politically correct and thought police took over. For 100 years everyone knew it was not possible to do the Tour without help. There's no way to overcome the oxygen debt and rebuild the body overnight for 21 straight days over 2,700 miles. Anyone who thinks you can ride the Tour on a Huffy and a buttered croissant is delusional. You don't don't have to like Lance, but respect his accomplishments.
He doesn't have any "accomplishments". He sat on his butt from 1999 to 2005. The only reason he is riding in RAGBRAI is to satisfy his own ego to regain the adoration of the koolaid drinkers who he has fooled.
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Originally Posted by chamois_buttr
I am personally thrilled that Lance Armstrong will ride Ragbrai this year. Cycling owes him a debt of gratitude and an apology for not acknowledging the problem without before the politically correct and thought police took over. For 100 years everyone knew it was not possible to do the Tour without help. There's no way to overcome the oxygen debt and rebuild the body overnight for 21 straight days over 2,700 miles. Anyone who thinks you can ride the Tour on a Huffy and a buttered croissant is delusional. You don't don't have to like Lance, but respect his accomplishments.
Of course the Tour could be done without doping. It would just be slower.
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Originally Posted by kenji666
It's a thread about LA. What did you expect? It either goes the distance, or someone posts something that offends the mods and it gets closed.
I'm going to pretend that offended me.

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Well, I predicted 8 pages. Halfspeed thought it would be counted it posts, not pages.
Cograts. You won the pool!
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