I think you are getting what you deserve...lol.

A very welcome breath of fresh air. You are so very right.

No...you should stay on point. No more fiction stories Robert. Time to come back to reality and talk about the subject at hand...the technical merits of Shimano versus Campagnolo.
Maybe we need to build your self esteem a bit. So a real soft ball Robert that hopefully you can even field. What engineering change was made after model year 2009 to Campy that completely transformed the tactile feedback of rear derailleur shifting? If you don't know even this, please remind me of why you are here again?

It does have an uncanny adherence to the poetry you write...lol. Maybe you guys could write some short stories. :)

Have fun you guys. I enjoyed the humor and had a fantastic day on the bike on a perfect summer day.
Ride safe.

Because I discovered how much fun it is to aggravate you.

People with campy always feel the need to say it's the best because it is. People with the others just ride it and don't think about it. Ridden them all, Campy wins.

i have ridden campie my whole life but now use simano and find it to be most comfortable and shift much better. sory friends

FIFY. Yeah, Shimano and SRAM riders are, without exception, totally mindless boobs. Pity them, shall we? How about a moment of silence?

No apology needed when you speak for what is right and proper. Welcome to the bright side. You were in the dark long enough.

Yeah, my time is to valuable too. When I was racing, very few who did or paid for their own work rode Ducs. And this was at a time when they had an enormous performance advantage. On the other hand, almost everyone who had someone else paying for/building their engines did. Definitely awesome, especially against 750s. Not worth the trouble. I do like the Tuono though.

Lol, Ducattis. All of them are slow, almost as slow as their Moto GP bike is. But that's ok, you're gonna go on about the "passion" and the "heritage" and all that.

No let's call it what it is. Your time isn't that valuable...lol. Guys who can adjust a 4V Duc bike do it because they have the talent. Most, and this includes Robert who is the 41 fiction writer, should never take a wrench to anything. You maybe a great rider for example and maybe most guys can't ride a high power motorcycle like you can. Horses for courses.

Whole point about the often discussed 4V Desmo valve adjustment killing ownership cost for Duc owners is, most riders...maybe not you because of your racing background, would be better served riding a 2V Duc on the street. A 2V bike is much easier to service of course because of reduced complexity. I would say for the vast majority that ride motorcycles on the street, 80 RWHP is plenty and most don't need 150 RWHP. Likely 98% of Desmo owners that don't track their Duc's never use even 50% of the bike's power. The world would be a safer place with more <100 HP motorcycles.
FWIW, the Duc 900SS is one of my favorite bikes of all time. No it isn't the fastest bike out there...not even close...but simple and beautiful and relatively cheap for those that can take a motorcycle down to pieces.

What an outrageous statement. Some guy on the internet...you...panning Duc's for being slow. Now that is funny. Been hanging out with Robert?
99.9% of all motorcycle riders should never throw a leg over a Duc 1098S...ever. They couldn't use 10% of the bike's power without going to the hospital...which is reflected in their insurance cost. :)

For those that don't know motorcycles or Ducatis...the D16RR has a top speed in excess of 190 mph. This bike makes many expert riders quake.

A friend that owns a couple of Duc superbikes says it best on track day:

So far, I've only met one owner of a D16RR that has been blessed with the right combination of skills, desire and lack of compunction required to ride a Desomsedici as Ducati truly intended - we are talking the fastest lap times of the day by a fair margin.

most of the ducati info some of these guys are posting is pretty significantly out of date, starting with maint costs and moving thru performance.

The valve check intervals is now 7500 on some 4-valves, 15k on the multistrada, diavel, etc. belt changes are 12.5k miles or five years (technology has changed substantially since the 90s.I do most of my maint, and valve checks are not rocket science, they are time consuming. Maint costs, vary wildly depending on where you live. Just had teh 22.5 k mile service, new belts, fluids, valv check and it was around 800-900.

As to performance. My 1098 streetfighter is very fast, my 1199 panigale is blindingly fast, handles sublimely on the track(barber in birmingham is my track of choice), and depending on the rider/track, the bmw s1krr and sometimes the aprilia rsv4 is the only bikes to consistently beat it. My multistrada is without a doubt the fastest sport/adventure touring bike out there and also handles sublimely.

The only downside with ducatis, is all the ill-informed "opinions" of the netexperts out there.

I will agree, however, that the current ducati motogp is a boat anchor and not the slightest bit competitive at that level. But in WSBK still too early to tell about the 1199 it's only first season, and it took a three years or so for the 1098r to do well.

maybe campy is better. but if my shimano is nice and i never have any problems with it, why would i change to something more expensive?

I am not especially mechanically gifted. But valve adjustments on any other bike are well within my ability. My guess is that you have never been up til 2AM the night before a race getting bikes sorted. That time is valuable time, and adding mechanical complexity would have been silly. I think I'm done here.

We're talking motorcycles now?

Really?

THat's what Foo is for.

Thread done.