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bici_mania 09-18-13 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by laf (Post 16078183)
That is interesting, i might consider the caad 10 ultegra.

Have you tried good carbon bikes ? Or only the entry level ones ?

I have ridden a Trek Madone about 45 miles, an old Specialized Allez that had the carbon tubes connected by aluminum lugs about 30 miles and test ridden a Specialized Tarmac. I have a friend who opened up a bike shop that has been trying to sell me on carbon, I did a test ride on one of his new Raleigh Militis 1 a few weeks ago. I love the old steel Raleigh's and so part of me wanted to like it but in the end it was 'meh'. I also have ridden a steel Bianchi ?something? and a steel Pinarello Trevisio, each with carbon forks. The Bianchi had a Nashbar carbon fork . Those were okay on the flat straight sections but I always felt that I needed to take extra precaution on the winding down hills.

That said, I realize I am becoming more aware and much more picky about wheels. On my old Raleigh Grand Prix I rode the original wheels and it was okay. About what you would expect for a 30 year old entry level bike. I borrowed my Mavic Cosmos wheels from the Cannondale I had for the Grand Prix and the bike came alive like it never had before. Suddenly it was an amazing ride with a 10 times better handling. After experimenting and riding friends bikes for the past year and a half, making various comparisons I think I may have found what is for me the ultimate frame/wheel combination, I really can't imagine a better feel to the ride I have now. I have a steel, early to mid-90's Olmo San Remo with 03/04 Chorus drive system, 03 Record hubs with Ambrosio rims. Riding it is a dream...so far. I just finished it last Friday and so there is of course the honeymoon effect. I have been without my own bike for the last year and a half and have been fortunate enough to have friends with extra bikes who were also kind enough to lend me one.

laf 09-18-13 10:35 AM

I dont really want to buy a bike to test if i will like the road bike experience. The last years I only did tarmac on my mtb. So Im pretty sure I will like it.

laf 09-18-13 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by bici_mania (Post 16079206)
I have ridden a Trek Madone about 45 miles, an old Specialized Allez that had the carbon tubes connected by aluminum lugs about 30 miles and test ridden a Specialized Tarmac. I have a friend who opened up a bike shop that has been trying to sell me on carbon, I did a test ride on one of his new Raleigh Militis 1 a few weeks ago. I love the old steel Raleigh's and so part of me wanted to like it but in the end it was 'meh'. I also have ridden a steel Bianchi ?something? and a steel Pinarello Trevisio, each with carbon forks. The Bianchi had a Nashbar carbon fork . Those were okay on the flat straight sections but I always felt that I needed to take extra precaution on the winding down hills.

That said, I realize I am becoming more aware and much more picky about wheels. On my old Raleigh Grand Prix I rode the original wheels and it was okay. About what you would expect for a 30 year old entry level bike. I borrowed my Mavic Cosmos wheels from the Cannondale I had for the Grand Prix and the bike came alive like it never had before. Suddenly it was an amazing ride with a 10 times better handling. After experimenting and riding friends bikes for the past year and a half, making various comparisons I think I may have found what is for me the ultimate frame/wheel combination, I really can't imagine a better feel to the ride I have now. I have a steel, early to mid-90's Olmo San Remo with 03/04 Chorus drive system, 03 Record hubs with Ambrosio rims. Riding it is a dream...so far. I just finished it last Friday and so there is of course the honeymoon effect. I have been without my own bike for the last year and a half and have been fortunate enough to have friends with extra bikes who were also kind enough to lend me one.

Thanks for your opinion, I will take a look on the caad 10.

hybridbkrdr 09-18-13 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by laf (Post 16079208)
I dont really want to buy a bike to test if i will like the road bike experience. The last years I only did tarmac on my mtb. So Im pretty sure I will like it.

I don't know what the reasoning behind that comment. But I can tell you I've ridden different bikes had a different feel.

laf 09-18-13 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr (Post 16079330)
I don't know what the reasoning behind that comment. But I can tell you I've ridden different bikes had a different feel.


Maybe I've explained myself incorrectly. English isnt my native language :-)

What I meant is I dont need to buy an entry level bike to see if I will like the switch to a road bike. I dont see why I wouldnt. With my mountain, I was only on the road for the last few years. But its too slow.

I also would prefer going to a better bike, no hassle in selling and switching to a better bike.

shoota 09-18-13 11:16 AM

I think there is sound logic in getting a CAAD10-type alu bike with decent components and then spending the saved money over the Evo-type bike for a better wheelset. We all know how much a high-end wheelset can improve a ride.

Tim_Iowa 09-18-13 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by laf (Post 16031995)
I would like to know also I can replace the cassette (11-28) for something like a 11-32. Where I live, ive got some big hills. 20% on average with some 25-30%.

The derailer may not be able to shift an 11-32. The majority of road bike derailers are short cage ones that max out on a 28t cog. Touring or MTB derailers shift bigger cogs.

Another gearing consideration: the cranks. 11-28 can be tough on hills when paired with "standard" 53/39 cranks. I have this setup on my steel race bike, and I struggle on steep hills. A "compact" double or a triple front cog could climb steep hills more easily.

lsberrios1 09-18-13 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by laf (Post 16079362)
Maybe I've explained myself incorrectly. English isnt my native language :-)

What I meant is I dont need to buy an entry level bike to see if I will like the switch to a road bike. I dont see why I wouldnt. With my mountain, I was only on the road for the last few years. But its too slow.

I also would prefer going to a better bike, no hassle in selling and switching to a better bike.

Understood, english isnt my native language either.

When I mean try a cheaper one is because between road bikes there are different types. Aero, comfort, race, climb etc. You won't know which type you prefer until you've done a couple thousand miles and your body has adapted to your type of riding. I now ride a $4k roubaix (which is a great bike) but I wish I would have saved up, waited and gotten myself the Venge I really want after knowing my type of riding (sprinter). Thing is I dont have that money anymore because I blew it on a racing cruiser.

Anyways, that is something you will figure out and a lot of people dont really care about that. They can ride anything fast (including hybrids) if they really train for it.

laf 09-18-13 12:47 PM

Thanks for your advice. This is really something to consider.

hybridbkrdr 09-18-13 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by hybridbkrdr (Post 16079330)
I don't know what the reasoning behind that comment. But I can tell you I've ridden different bikes had a different feel.

LOL at the grammar in that post. I guess I was sleepy or something when I wrote that. :O


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