Thoughts on Winter Options
#51
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I can't help but yank a few chains when folks from the south start talking about how hard winter riding is but do understand that everything is relative.
I can deal with -40 weather here (cold and dry) but put me in Portland in the winter when it is perpetually cold and damp and I freeze my ass off... I will wear almost the same gear there as I do here.
Put me out in the hot sun and I will burst into flames unless you cover me with SPF 25000.

I can deal with -40 weather here (cold and dry) but put me in Portland in the winter when it is perpetually cold and damp and I freeze my ass off... I will wear almost the same gear there as I do here.
Put me out in the hot sun and I will burst into flames unless you cover me with SPF 25000.

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It's not the temperature that bothers me in those conditions, it's the ice on the roads, the poor visibility outside of working hours at the times of year/latitudes where you get those temperatures, and the stupid drivers.
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I used to think rides more than 30-45 minutes were unbearable on the trainer. At some point I started focusing on what I was feeling - much of the time, especially when I'm going hard, I have my eyes closed. I listen to music and think about contact points, form, etc. Suddenly my tolerance for long rides went up a lot.
Without loud music pushing me I find it difficult to ride hard. Movies/clips let me ride a while but I can't ride hard when I'm distracted like that. To wit - my last ride on the trainer I did 125w, 125bpm, mid 80s rpm. A hard ride for me might be 145w, 145bpm, 90-ish rpm.
Without loud music pushing me I find it difficult to ride hard. Movies/clips let me ride a while but I can't ride hard when I'm distracted like that. To wit - my last ride on the trainer I did 125w, 125bpm, mid 80s rpm. A hard ride for me might be 145w, 145bpm, 90-ish rpm.
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My winter gear consists of zipping my jersey all the way up and maybe, maybe wearing arm warmers... of course I live in South Florida so I'll shut up
#58
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Ever heard of the Rockies? Visit Northern New Mexico in October-March and see if it feels like winter to ya...
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Burlington...out on the plains and not known for its extreme snowfall...gets more snow than Albuquerque. And Denver, with it's December average temperature of 43 F for a high and 17 F for a low, is shirt sleeve weather compared to that you find in Canukistan.
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#59
I'll see your New Mexico and raise you Colorado
average annual snowfall
average december temps
Burlington...out on the plains and not known for its extreme snowfall...gets more snow than Albuquerque. And Denver, with it's December average temperature of 43 F for a high and 17 F for a low, is shirt sleeve weather compared to that you find in Canukistan.
average annual snowfall
average december temps
Burlington...out on the plains and not known for its extreme snowfall...gets more snow than Albuquerque. And Denver, with it's December average temperature of 43 F for a high and 17 F for a low, is shirt sleeve weather compared to that you find in Canukistan.
My wife and I plan to move to the interior of B.C. when the girls are older so we can enjoy balmier winter weather.
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The biggest problem with winter riding is not riding in the cold, it's riding in the dark. I prefer to ride when it is light out and when it is dark out here, you can't see anything. Too rural for street lights.
More than 5 hours on a trainer, spread out over a lifetime, is too much.
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I used to think rides more than 30-45 minutes were unbearable on the trainer. At some point I started focusing on what I was feeling - much of the time, especially when I'm going hard, I have my eyes closed. I listen to music and think about contact points, form, etc. Suddenly my tolerance for long rides went up a lot.
Without loud music pushing me I find it difficult to ride hard. Movies/clips let me ride a while but I can't ride hard when I'm distracted like that. To wit - my last ride on the trainer I did 125w, 125bpm, mid 80s rpm. A hard ride for me might be 145w, 145bpm, 90-ish rpm.
Without loud music pushing me I find it difficult to ride hard. Movies/clips let me ride a while but I can't ride hard when I'm distracted like that. To wit - my last ride on the trainer I did 125w, 125bpm, mid 80s rpm. A hard ride for me might be 145w, 145bpm, 90-ish rpm.
I do all three and have for many years, except that I don't just do spin classes at the gym, I also lift weights, work the climbers and various other equipment. Just choosing one option would be too boring and limited. Winter is the time for mixing it up. Do all the stuff you won't do in the summer because it cuts into your riding.
#63
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Sorry, buddy, I grew up in Washington. I won't say it doesn't snow up there (in the Cascades, not Seattle), but the temperatures are laughable. I don't think you ever have an excuse not to ride.
#64
I think you misunderstood. I ride all year wrong. And snowshoe and ski a bit. I'm not looking for excuses to stay off the bike.
But when you get into the Cascades out here, it makes Colorado look like a tropical paradise.
But when you get into the Cascades out here, it makes Colorado look like a tropical paradise.
#65
I have been contemplating a few ideas for winter training but can't seem to decide which route to go and would appreciate any advice. Below are the three options I'm looking at.
1. Purchase cold weather gear (due to school schedule I'll only be able to ride twice a week maybe 3x if I bike to work)
2. Purchase a membership or group of classes at a spin studio
3. Purchase a trainer (fluid)
I'm leaning towards purchasing a trainer so I can potentially put more time on the bike i.e. I can squeeze in a quick 30 minute workout when I have some downtime vs. gearing up, getting the bike ready, and going out for a ride. I can make a couple of spin classes a week before work but its a large money investment for a short return vs. a long return by purchasing a trainer.
1. Purchase cold weather gear (due to school schedule I'll only be able to ride twice a week maybe 3x if I bike to work)
2. Purchase a membership or group of classes at a spin studio
3. Purchase a trainer (fluid)
I'm leaning towards purchasing a trainer so I can potentially put more time on the bike i.e. I can squeeze in a quick 30 minute workout when I have some downtime vs. gearing up, getting the bike ready, and going out for a ride. I can make a couple of spin classes a week before work but its a large money investment for a short return vs. a long return by purchasing a trainer.
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Temperature decreases pretty predictably with altitude. The temperature at 14000 feet undergoes some slight variations but the top of Rainer is going to be about the same temperature as Mt Evans if the conditions are similar. You aren't going to be able to climb Mt Evans in the dead of winter in shorts. They have similar clothing requirements for similar times of year.
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Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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Dreamin' of Bemidji Down the Mississippi (in part)
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!
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I'll see your New Mexico and raise you Colorado
average annual snowfall
average december temps
Burlington...out on the plains and not known for its extreme snowfall...gets more snow than Albuquerque. And Denver, with it's December average temperature of 43 F for a high and 17 F for a low, is shirt sleeve weather compared to that you find in Canukistan.
average annual snowfall
average december temps
Burlington...out on the plains and not known for its extreme snowfall...gets more snow than Albuquerque. And Denver, with it's December average temperature of 43 F for a high and 17 F for a low, is shirt sleeve weather compared to that you find in Canukistan.
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I have been contemplating a few ideas for winter training but can't seem to decide which route to go and would appreciate any advice. Below are the three options I'm looking at.
1. Purchase cold weather gear (due to school schedule I'll only be able to ride twice a week maybe 3x if I bike to work)
2. Purchase a membership or group of classes at a spin studio
3. Purchase a trainer (fluid)
I'm leaning towards purchasing a trainer so I can potentially put more time on the bike i.e. I can squeeze in a quick 30 minute workout when I have some downtime vs. gearing up, getting the bike ready, and going out for a ride. I can make a couple of spin classes a week before work but its a large money investment for a short return vs. a long return by purchasing a trainer.
1. Purchase cold weather gear (due to school schedule I'll only be able to ride twice a week maybe 3x if I bike to work)
2. Purchase a membership or group of classes at a spin studio
3. Purchase a trainer (fluid)
I'm leaning towards purchasing a trainer so I can potentially put more time on the bike i.e. I can squeeze in a quick 30 minute workout when I have some downtime vs. gearing up, getting the bike ready, and going out for a ride. I can make a couple of spin classes a week before work but its a large money investment for a short return vs. a long return by purchasing a trainer.
Option 1 is the ONLY option you will be enjoying.
#73
There are some parts of winter where it is almost impossible to ride due to ice/snow. However, if it is just cold or rainy, I still prefer to just go outside and ride. I can do so pretty comfortably for all temperatures down to and just below the freezing point. Just make sure you have the right gear. This is important. Without the right gear, a fun training ride can turn into hell when the weather conditions are bad.
Gyms are just too expensive in my opinion. I have joined a gym last year to do some spinning and general exercise, but I still ended up going outside to do my exercise. Turns out I would still rather go jogging than sit inside some sweaty room in a gym. But to each their own. Spinning classes are alright though. I quite enjoyed them, which surprised me.
Gyms are just too expensive in my opinion. I have joined a gym last year to do some spinning and general exercise, but I still ended up going outside to do my exercise. Turns out I would still rather go jogging than sit inside some sweaty room in a gym. But to each their own. Spinning classes are alright though. I quite enjoyed them, which surprised me.
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Where do you live? If in Alaska get the trainer. Anywhere in the lower 48 get the cold weather gear. Cycling in the winter is fun, kind if like skiing at times but on quiet winter roads it's a blast bob and there is no ride more beautiful than a clear night with a full moon and snow covered fields.




