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DGlenday 09-22-13 04:13 PM

Strava 'What The ****' Question
 
There's a circuit I occasionally ride. It's just 0.6 miles long, in a business park that is almost 100% deserted during the weekend and at nights, the road surface is excellent, and the corners are wide and safe. A crit is run around this circuit, and quite a few crit racers use it as for training precisely because it's safe and fast.

So I rode a few laps today, and it would not show me my (lowly) position on the leader list because...
"This segment has been marked as hazardous by someone who has ridden it on Strava. Leader lists are not shown"

WUT ?!?

Beaker 09-22-13 04:34 PM

Report it to the Strava help desk. Is there a time of day when that might not be safe?

TrojanHorse 09-22-13 06:22 PM

yeah, it happens... just email strava support and explain your thoughts. I've done that a number of times and they've been pretty reasonable about unflagging things.

DGlenday 09-22-13 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by TrojanHorse (Post 16093389)
yeah, it happens... just email strava support and explain your thoughts. I've done that a number of times and they've been pretty reasonable about unflagging things.

Thanks. Will do so.

bhikkhu 09-22-13 06:50 PM

Probably it was flagged by mistake. I did that once on a popular KOM route, where someone had posted a 55mph+ time. Someone left their garmin on driving home or something and I was trying to flag a "ride" for that, but it wound up a "hazardous route" flag and there was no way for me to undo it. I e-mailed in and they fixed it the next day; the route and all the previous times were back up.

SpeshulEd 09-22-13 07:05 PM

Yeah, I've seen a handful of segments in my area be flagged lately...sometimes I think people do it to be idiots...they lost their kom, so now no one can have it. I usually just report them. They're customer service is top notch.

Dudelsack 09-22-13 07:19 PM

If it requires blowing through a stop sign, it will and should be flagged.

MingusDew 09-23-13 05:04 AM

There's a trail I ride frequently in my area. There are usually a few cyclists, but primarily there are people on foot (and a lot of elderly people some days). One section of the trail has a KOM score with speed of 36+ mph. I can't even begin to fathom riding 36mph on this section of the trail, there is a bridge that is wooden and fairly narrow, and I wouldn't want to imagine an accident with pedestrians that would occur at these speeds. The crazy part is that it is listed as a climb, with 10.9% grade ... the speed that people get on this climb really make me realize how low level of a rider I am (although I guess being on page 2 out of 9 isn't the worst) ... thanks Strava :/

http://www.strava.com/segments/1041399

Beaker 09-23-13 06:46 AM

Did you check out the performance tab and look at the data? Something's up with that ride as the rider goes from 5mph to ~40mph in a heartbeat. It's always worth being skeptical of outlier KOM's.

MingusDew 09-23-13 07:17 AM

I actually was trying to decide if he did it on a dirtbike lol

SpeshulEd 09-23-13 08:03 AM

Yeah, it seems kind of odd that the pro that came in second was at 500+w and the guy holding the kom was only at 130w and instantly flew up the hill.

rebel1916 09-23-13 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by Dudelsack (Post 16093596)
If it requires blowing through a stop sign, it will and should be flagged.

Save it for A&S. He already said it was in an office park.

Looigi 09-23-13 08:47 AM

All my favorite descents are flagged around here.

rebel1916 09-23-13 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Looigi (Post 16094969)
All my favorite descents are flagged around here.

Probably because of Dudelsack.

DGlenday 09-24-13 03:03 PM

Got my response from Strava:


Hello,

Thank you for sending us your feedback about this segment. This system is in place to keep the competition safe on Strava, and it relies on the feedback of our users. Because we are not in a position to evaluate the hazards present on a given segment, we have to take the comments associated with segments flagged as hazardous very seriously.
We understand that the current functionality of this feature is limiting, as after one person flags a segment as Hazardous, the entire leaderboard is removed for all users. This can be frustrating because what one user thinks is a hazardous segment might not be judged the same way by another user. We are working on ways to increase this functionality in the future, but for now we are unfortunately unable to remove the flag from this particular segment, as the comments do indicate a legitimate potential hazard:

"Segment contains multiple stop signs many riders are ignoring."

Thanks for your patience while we work on improving this experience.

Best,
*****
Strava Support Team
"Segment contains multiple stop signs many riders are ignoring." :mad: ?!?

So I've made another identical segment. Let's see how it works...

rkwaki 09-24-13 03:08 PM

Better question...
Does it really matter?
Just had a Strava staulking conversation with a friend this morning...

Seattle Forrest 09-24-13 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by bhikkhu (Post 16093478)
Probably it was flagged by a troll.

Fixed for the internet age.

Brian Ratliff 09-24-13 03:26 PM

What's "Strava staulking"? Sounds dirty.

rkwaki 09-24-13 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff (Post 16100062)
What's "Strava staulking"? Sounds dirty.

In the 33 it would be.
We have a lot around here that purposefully go after KOMs to take them from guys they don't like.

genejockey 09-24-13 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Beaker (Post 16094608)
Did you check out the performance tab and look at the data? Something's up with that ride as the rider goes from 5mph to ~40mph in a heartbeat. It's always worth being skeptical of outlier KOM's.

The rider fell off a cliff? :lol:

billh92109 09-24-13 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Beaker (Post 16093089)
Is there a time of day when that might not be safe?

During the crit is my guess..

Tycho Brahe 09-24-13 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Looigi (Post 16094969)
All my favorite descents are flagged around here.

Why would anyone care about a downhill segment? HTFU and do some climbs.

Vicegrip 09-24-13 05:43 PM

^ I thinks that there was a joke.

rebel1916 09-24-13 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by Tycho Brahe (Post 16100431)
Why would anyone care about a downhill segment? HTFU and do some climbs.

Why do some (wussies perhaps) act like descending is not a skill.

Tycho Brahe 09-24-13 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by rebel1916 (Post 16100541)
Why do some (wussies perhaps) act like descending is not a skill.

I think you are looking for the mountain bike forum. :)

BTW, my comment was directed at downhill segments in general, not Looigi.


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