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Homebrew01 05-24-14 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 16787646)
seems pretty dumb to throw away a perfectly usable tube.

i blame it for the collapse of civil society and increasing youth crime.

Global warming too. Needless disposal of old tubes, and extra production of new tubes.

popeye 05-24-14 10:15 AM

How old is the air in the tubes?

moppeddler 05-24-14 10:52 AM

Since a new tube is less than $5, I don't see why anyone would chance patching it & reusing. Just how I think.

JohnDThompson 05-24-14 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by Reynolds (Post 16787039)
Tubes last for years, even decades in my experience.

+1 This. I have wheels with 30 year old tubes still doing fine. The tubes are protected from degradation by UV light and ozone by the tire, and will last until they're irreparably punctured.

Dudelsack 05-24-14 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 16787646)
seems pretty dumb to throw away a perfectly usable tube.

i blame it for the collapse of civil society and increasing youth crime.

I blame Bush and global atmospheric perturbation.

And don't let your mother catch you perturbating.

Dudelsack 05-24-14 01:09 PM

Anyway, I thought the OPs question was a good one. I recently flatted because the tube around the valve stem became unhinged, and is thought perhaps I had been guilty of negligence for not changing the tube out prophylacticly.

CharlyAlfaRomeo 05-24-14 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by moppeddler (Post 16787828)
Since a new tube is less than $5, I don't see why anyone would chance patching it & reusing. Just how I think.

Since a patch costs just pennies and holds air perfectly I don't see why anyone would ever spend $5 on a new tube. Just how I think.

Pirkaus 05-24-14 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by gregf83 (Post 16787387)
What bad things could happen to a patched tube? If it holds air after being patched it's not going to suddenly let go when it's squeezed tight against a tire. A patched tube is no more flat prone than a new one.

Am I a bit over cautious, maybe it's a hold over in my brain from riding motorcycles, front flats, especially while descending, are scary shizzle. YMMV

prathmann 05-24-14 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by moppeddler (Post 16787828)
Since a new tube is less than $5, I don't see why anyone would chance patching it & reusing. Just how I think.

If the old, well-tested, tube is patchable why would I risk using a newly bought tube that might have a manufacturing defect?

I've experienced more of those than failures of patches. Only buy new tubes when the old one can't be patched so my tubes last much longer than my tires.

ConGrUenCy 05-24-14 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by prathmann (Post 16788816)
If the old, well-tested, tube is patchable why would I risk using a newly bought tube that might have a manufacturing defect?

I've experienced more of those than failures of patches. Only buy new tubes when the old one can't be patched so my tubes last much longer than my tires.

+1
Patches hold air perfectly, so I'd rather not spend $5 each time I flat. Patching is cheap, and I can be sure the tube is free of manufacturing defects.

surgeonstone 05-25-14 08:29 AM

no.

jon c. 05-25-14 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Dudelsack (Post 16788065)
Anyway, I thought the OPs question was a good one. I recently flatted because the tube around the valve stem became unhinged, and is thought perhaps I had been guilty of negligence for not changing the tube out prophylacticly.

Just had one of those on a tube that was about 2 years old. I remember only because the presta stem broke of at the top of the stem on that one. But it still took air, so I kept using it. Was sitting in the living room several hours after a ride and suddenly heard a rush of air from the bike room. (It was loud enough that at first I thought there was a water leak in the bathroom.) Took it off to find multiple holes in the stem area. Odd that they just sort of opened up while the bike was just sitting.

It did leave me wondering if a couple years was the natural life span of the tube.

coasting 05-25-14 09:34 AM

i am really disappointed with the valves of many of my tubes. either the whole valve tears at the base wher it joins the rubber or the plunger in the top of the valve breaks off. Very poor. poor.

indyfabz 05-25-14 09:40 AM

I went tubeless last year. So did the GF. She punctured yesterday but didn't get a flat. Pretty cool.

Spiduhman 05-26-14 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by ConGrUenCy (Post 16789336)
+1
Patches hold air perfectly, so I'd rather not spend $5 each time I flat. Patching is cheap, and I can be sure the tube is free of manufacturing defects.

+0010

Homebrew01 05-26-14 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 16790040)
i am really disappointed with the valves of many of my tubes. either the whole valve tears at the base wher it joins the rubber or the plunger in the top of the valve breaks off. Very poor. poor.

In all these years, I may have had 1 or 2 bad tubes. I buy whatever is on sale.

merlinextraligh 05-27-14 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by therh (Post 16786954)
Hello,

I was curious if anyone replaces their tubes after certain mileage? I have over 1,000 miles on the same set of tubes, new tires of course. But i wanted to know if it is a good idea to replace tubes after a certain amount of millage. I am 165 pounds and run my tires at 110psi.

Thanks,
RH

At the risk of piling on here, in addition to the wasted effort, and expense, you'd be likely to get more flats by changing out a perfectly good tube.

You know the tube that's in there is not defective, and is properly seated. If you put a new one in, you can tear it installing it; you can fial to get it seated correctly and get a blowout, and you have a slight possibility that the new tube would be defective.

coasting 05-27-14 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Homebrew01 (Post 16793104)
In all these years, I may have had 1 or 2 bad tubes. I buy whatever is on sale.


as a public service, i will name the disappointing tubes. Vittorio ripped 2 valves out of the rubber seating. Cheng Shin (makers of maxis) snapped off valve plungers.

i used different pumps so I guess it is not a dodgy pump head.

gregf83 05-27-14 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 16790040)
i am really disappointed with the valves of many of my tubes. either the whole valve tears at the base wher it joins the rubber or the plunger in the top of the valve breaks off. Very poor. poor.

Might have something to do with the stresses you apply when pumping. Do you use a frame pump or pump without a hose?

coasting 05-27-14 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by gregf83 (Post 16794869)
Might have something to do with the stresses you apply when pumping. Do you use a frame pump or pump without a hose?


nope. floor pump with hose. i do not own a frame pump here and I have not had a roadside puncture for 4 years.

Sixty Fiver 05-27-14 07:43 AM

A patch costs a few cents and when properly installed will last as long as the tube and will be the strongest point on the tube.

Tossing away $5.00 for a new tube and tossing the old tube is wasteful to a very high degree.

merlinextraligh 05-27-14 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 16794942)
A patch costs a few cents and when properly installed will last as long as the tube and will be the strongest point on the tube.

Tossing away $5.00 for a new tube and tossing the old tube is wasteful to a very high degree.

But you only need one extra $5 tube to avoid needing to patch on the road (for the vast majority of flats). Use spare tube on the road. Save tube with hole. Patch at home ( where it's easier to locate small holes) and reuse the patched tube.

Convenient, and no waste.

Sixty Fiver 05-27-14 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 16795106)
But you only need one extra $5 tube to avoid needing to patch on the road (for the vast majority of flats). Use spare tube on the road. Save tube with hole. Patch at home ( where it's easier to locate small holes) and reuse the patched tube.

Convenient, and no waste.

I carry a spare tube that may or may not have patches on it... I don't get many of them so some of the spares are still pretty fresh.

After one has been riding for a while you collect a few extra tubes.

RPK79 05-27-14 09:06 AM

If I didn't buy new tubes from my LBS they would go out of business.

danmc 05-27-14 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 16787613)
why would you not patch a tube?

I patched a tube last night that went flat after I had finished my ride. Just for practice since I normally just replace the tube. This morning when I got up, the patched tube was flat. I have to investigate what happened. Maybe I just suck at patching.


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