Indoor Trainer
#51
well hello there

Joined: May 2005
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From: Point Loma, CA
Bikes: Bill Holland (Road-Ti), Fuji Roubaix Pro (back-up), Bike Friday (folder), Co-Motion (tandem) & Trek 750 (hybrid)
Even though I reside in San Diego, where the weather is generally perfect, I do too.
I try and hop on the trainer for about twenty minutes before every ride, just to warm up a bit.
I try and hop on the trainer for about twenty minutes before every ride, just to warm up a bit.
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#52
Redefining Lazy
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: North Metro, MN
Bikes: 2013 Cannondale Synapse 5 105, 2013 Giant Escape 3
I tried both a fluid and rollers, but ended up returning both. I really didn't care for the action.
I really wanted to like them, but I just decided I'd rather ride in the heat and rain, than use either.
The Kurt Kinetic Rock and Roll looked pretty cool, though.
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I really wanted to like them, but I just decided I'd rather ride in the heat and rain, than use either.
The Kurt Kinetic Rock and Roll looked pretty cool, though.
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#53
New to Cycling
Joined: Jun 2014
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From: Federal Way, WA
Bikes: 2014 Specialized Comp Carbon
Sorry, but NO THANKS! Boring brown flat desert, hiding inside your home with AC for months out of the year while it's 100+ for 20 hours out of the day. Yeah I'm perfectly good up here with our mountains, ocean, lakes, rivers, green stuff, oh and rain too!
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#55
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Joined: Dec 2009
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After suffering for the last 4 years or so with a Black Burn Tech Fluid I just bought a Cycleop SuperMag Pro. I bought the mag pro because of all the issues I have with the POS Blackburn I just didn't trust that other fluid trainers would still have some of the same issues, mainly having to warm up and inconsistant resistance with a ride and day to day.
I'll have the mag pro today, too bad I tore my meniscus on Monday.
I'll have the mag pro today, too bad I tore my meniscus on Monday.
#56
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Joined: Jan 2012
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From: CT
Bikes: 2010 CAAD9-5, 2013 Supersix Evo
I've had the KK Road Machine for 3 years now, and have used TrainerRoad for the last 2 with it. Someone else mentioned the customer service from Kurt Kinetic, and I completely agree. Last year I had lost an obscure screw, and they mailed one out the very next day for free. The resistance is perfect for me, and coupled with TrainerRoad, the misery is lessened.
Apart from that, I would consider rollers... in fact I do consider rollers every winter but those are a tough sell with the wife. One must pick your battles wisely.
Apart from that, I would consider rollers... in fact I do consider rollers every winter but those are a tough sell with the wife. One must pick your battles wisely.
#57
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 389
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From: New England
Bikes: Cannondale six-13
I went to a bike shop in 2008 and noticed that they had a huge surplus of stationary Cycleops trainers for $1000. I made them an offer of $600 and they sold me one. It's exactly like this. Look at the price now. Mine has a Joule computer not modern apps. I gave up on rollers because I fell asleep on them once.
#58
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Bikes: One with square wheels
I went to a bike shop in 2008 and noticed that they had a huge surplus of stationary Cycleops trainers for $1000. I made them an offer of $600 and they sold me one. It's exactly like this. Look at the price now. Mine has a Joule computer not modern apps. I gave up on rollers because I fell asleep on them once.
Thats just an indoor/stationary bike.........not really a trainer.
Same purpose though
#59
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Joined: Sep 2013
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From: New England
Bikes: Cannondale six-13
It's a spinning bike like you find in a gym. I can burn some major calories on it even if I can't shift it. I think some manufacturers make models that you can shift. I have another indoor exercise bike with a back rested seat that's more like a recumbent. I ride one for an hour then the other one for an hour. I don't gain an ounce over the winter.
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From: Very N and Very W Ohio Williams Co.
Bikes: 2001 Trek Multitrack 7200, 2104 Fuji Sportif 1.5
roller size affects resistance.
2.25" rollers are likely enough resistance without a seperate resistance unit.
Kreitler Rollers UK
2.25" rollers are likely enough resistance without a seperate resistance unit.
Kreitler Rollers UK
The rollers I am looking at come as "cadence rollers" and or "magnetic resistance" rollers. There is a $100 difference, and you can add the "overdrive" roller later.
They come with 3.25" drums.
The Bike I am picking up the first week of October is a 2014 Fuji Sportif 1.5 which has a 50/34 compact crank, and an 11-32 cassette.
Setting this chart up for the cogs and chainrings it looks like I would be at 32 mph at 90 rpm, which would be ROUGHLY 300 watts if I am looking at it right ??
My normal flat out speed (160 heart rate) on level ground on a Hybrid on the road is in the low 20's.
Wondering if the plain rollers will work for me for awile or if I will need the resistance roller right from the start to be able to hit a decent heart rate for intervals ??
The chart in this thread would sort of indicate that I may be able to get some good use out of the plain rollers with 3.25" drums to start out ?
https://www.bikeforums.net/electric-b...watts-mph.html
300 watts seems to work out to about 18mph or so on a "mountian Bike" ??
Last edited by Willbird; 09-10-14 at 10:34 AM.
#62
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From: Jacksonville
Bikes: Willier Zero 7; Merlin Extralight; Calfee Dragonfly tandem, Calfee Adventure tandem; Cervelo P2; Motebecane Ti Fly 29er; Motebecanne Phantom Cross; Schwinn Paramount Track bike
Based upon your description of yourself, 300 watts of resistance should be fine for longer intervals. Your current FTP is likely below 300.
Where it might come up short is if you're planning on doing shorter intervals, say 15 seconds to 1-2minutes, where you likely can do better than 300 watts.
Also, I'm not sure how the Keitler rollers data translates to non keitler rollers of similar size.
Where it might come up short is if you're planning on doing shorter intervals, say 15 seconds to 1-2minutes, where you likely can do better than 300 watts.
Also, I'm not sure how the Keitler rollers data translates to non keitler rollers of similar size.
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#63
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From: Very N and Very W Ohio Williams Co.
Bikes: 2001 Trek Multitrack 7200, 2104 Fuji Sportif 1.5
Based upon your description of yourself, 300 watts of resistance should be fine for longer intervals. Your current FTP is likely below 300.
Where it might come up short is if you're planning on doing shorter intervals, say 15 seconds to 1-2minutes, where you likely can do better than 300 watts.
Also, I'm not sure how the Keitler rollers data translates to non keitler rollers of similar size.
Where it might come up short is if you're planning on doing shorter intervals, say 15 seconds to 1-2minutes, where you likely can do better than 300 watts.
Also, I'm not sure how the Keitler rollers data translates to non keitler rollers of similar size.
#65
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 389
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From: New England
Bikes: Cannondale six-13
Just came from Dick's Sporting Goods. I ordered a Cycleops Fluid 2 trainer. I have a recumbent indoor training bike that I ride 20 miles twice a day, two hours complete. I plan to ride the Cycleops 20 miles (one hour) after I ride my recumbent 20 miles (one hour) this winter. Should be a complete workout. Any comments on the Fluid2 trainer?
#66
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Joined: Sep 2013
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I bought a set of reduced radius Nashbar rollers which I got on sale for about $100 shipped. For shorter intervals it lacks enough resistance for me. For longer intervals (10+ minutes) it worked great. I would try to maintain 90rpm with a 52X11 gear ratio. They also helped my bike riding skills greatly. If you decide to get the rollers and they don't have enough resistance you can easily add some rare earth magnets cheaply and they work super well. Search magnets in this forum to see what I am referring to.







