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Old 08-26-14 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RPK79
I ride my indoor trainer quite a bit.
Even though I reside in San Diego, where the weather is generally perfect, I do too.
I try and hop on the trainer for about twenty minutes before every ride, just to warm up a bit.
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Old 08-26-14 | 10:34 PM
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I tried both a fluid and rollers, but ended up returning both. I really didn't care for the action.
I really wanted to like them, but I just decided I'd rather ride in the heat and rain, than use either.
The Kurt Kinetic Rock and Roll looked pretty cool, though.

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Old 08-26-14 | 11:07 PM
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Or you could do something less depressing and move to Arizona
Sorry, but NO THANKS! Boring brown flat desert, hiding inside your home with AC for months out of the year while it's 100+ for 20 hours out of the day. Yeah I'm perfectly good up here with our mountains, ocean, lakes, rivers, green stuff, oh and rain too!
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Old 08-26-14 | 11:17 PM
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Or you could do something less depressing and move to Arizona

We have a house in AZ but you could never convince me to stay there in the summer.
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Old 08-27-14 | 05:16 PM
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After suffering for the last 4 years or so with a Black Burn Tech Fluid I just bought a Cycleop SuperMag Pro. I bought the mag pro because of all the issues I have with the POS Blackburn I just didn't trust that other fluid trainers would still have some of the same issues, mainly having to warm up and inconsistant resistance with a ride and day to day.

I'll have the mag pro today, too bad I tore my meniscus on Monday.
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Old 08-28-14 | 05:59 AM
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I've had the KK Road Machine for 3 years now, and have used TrainerRoad for the last 2 with it. Someone else mentioned the customer service from Kurt Kinetic, and I completely agree. Last year I had lost an obscure screw, and they mailed one out the very next day for free. The resistance is perfect for me, and coupled with TrainerRoad, the misery is lessened.

Apart from that, I would consider rollers... in fact I do consider rollers every winter but those are a tough sell with the wife. One must pick your battles wisely.
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Old 09-03-14 | 07:53 PM
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I went to a bike shop in 2008 and noticed that they had a huge surplus of stationary Cycleops trainers for $1000. I made them an offer of $600 and they sold me one. It's exactly like this. Look at the price now. Mine has a Joule computer not modern apps. I gave up on rollers because I fell asleep on them once.
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Old 09-03-14 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ray9
I went to a bike shop in 2008 and noticed that they had a huge surplus of stationary Cycleops trainers for $1000. I made them an offer of $600 and they sold me one. It's exactly like this. Look at the price now. Mine has a Joule computer not modern apps. I gave up on rollers because I fell asleep on them once.

Thats just an indoor/stationary bike.........not really a trainer.

Same purpose though
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Old 09-03-14 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Team Sarcasm
Thats just an indoor/stationary bike.........not really a trainer.

Same purpose though
It's a spinning bike like you find in a gym. I can burn some major calories on it even if I can't shift it. I think some manufacturers make models that you can shift. I have another indoor exercise bike with a back rested seat that's more like a recumbent. I ride one for an hour then the other one for an hour. I don't gain an ounce over the winter.
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Old 09-08-14 | 11:23 PM
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This. Soon as the rain sets in here in the Pacific NW I will be ordering a Wahoo KICKR to go with my 80" TV in the living room. Climbing mountains around the world while it rains outside.

With 80" TV and desire to do famous climbs check this out: https://veloreality.com. This software works with KICKR and has highest quality road videos one can find
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Old 09-10-14 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
roller size affects resistance.

2.25" rollers are likely enough resistance without a seperate resistance unit.

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Kind of revisiting this issue :-).

The rollers I am looking at come as "cadence rollers" and or "magnetic resistance" rollers. There is a $100 difference, and you can add the "overdrive" roller later.

They come with 3.25" drums.

The Bike I am picking up the first week of October is a 2014 Fuji Sportif 1.5 which has a 50/34 compact crank, and an 11-32 cassette.

Setting this chart up for the cogs and chainrings it looks like I would be at 32 mph at 90 rpm, which would be ROUGHLY 300 watts if I am looking at it right ??

My normal flat out speed (160 heart rate) on level ground on a Hybrid on the road is in the low 20's.

Wondering if the plain rollers will work for me for awile or if I will need the resistance roller right from the start to be able to hit a decent heart rate for intervals ??

The chart in this thread would sort of indicate that I may be able to get some good use out of the plain rollers with 3.25" drums to start out ?

https://www.bikeforums.net/electric-b...watts-mph.html

300 watts seems to work out to about 18mph or so on a "mountian Bike" ??

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Old 09-10-14 | 11:03 AM
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Based upon your description of yourself, 300 watts of resistance should be fine for longer intervals. Your current FTP is likely below 300.

Where it might come up short is if you're planning on doing shorter intervals, say 15 seconds to 1-2minutes, where you likely can do better than 300 watts.

Also, I'm not sure how the Keitler rollers data translates to non keitler rollers of similar size.
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Old 09-10-14 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Based upon your description of yourself, 300 watts of resistance should be fine for longer intervals. Your current FTP is likely below 300.

Where it might come up short is if you're planning on doing shorter intervals, say 15 seconds to 1-2minutes, where you likely can do better than 300 watts.

Also, I'm not sure how the Keitler rollers data translates to non keitler rollers of similar size.
5 minute zone 5 ZeCanon intervals are as short as I go right now, just looking to come into next spring with whatever CV I have now or improve some. Just trying to get the equipment that will benefit me most as priority items. Thanks for the input :-).
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Old 09-10-14 | 06:22 PM
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Just started using Cycleops Powerbeam Pro.

I had a minoura before and it was not fun.
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Old 09-12-14 | 05:39 PM
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Just came from Dick's Sporting Goods. I ordered a Cycleops Fluid 2 trainer. I have a recumbent indoor training bike that I ride 20 miles twice a day, two hours complete. I plan to ride the Cycleops 20 miles (one hour) after I ride my recumbent 20 miles (one hour) this winter. Should be a complete workout. Any comments on the Fluid2 trainer?
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Old 09-13-14 | 09:45 AM
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I bought a set of reduced radius Nashbar rollers which I got on sale for about $100 shipped. For shorter intervals it lacks enough resistance for me. For longer intervals (10+ minutes) it worked great. I would try to maintain 90rpm with a 52X11 gear ratio. They also helped my bike riding skills greatly. If you decide to get the rollers and they don't have enough resistance you can easily add some rare earth magnets cheaply and they work super well. Search magnets in this forum to see what I am referring to.
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