Should I change to compact?
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Should I change to compact?
Evening all...
Just saw an ad one town over. A guy is selling a shimano 105 53/39 compact crankset. I'm currently running sora triple crankset and in all the time I've had the bike I've yet to use the granny ring. Should I or shouldn't I... And more importantly, CAN I? Will it fit?
Gracias a everyone.
Just saw an ad one town over. A guy is selling a shimano 105 53/39 compact crankset. I'm currently running sora triple crankset and in all the time I've had the bike I've yet to use the granny ring. Should I or shouldn't I... And more importantly, CAN I? Will it fit?
Gracias a everyone.
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I put a 50/34 on my Lemond that had a triple, I didn't have to change anything. Sora sti works using the normal middle to large position to shift. Derailer handles compact flawlessly.
That's my experience.
That's my experience.
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On flats: try riding in the big ring of your sora triple. If it's OK to use only the big one - then get a compact. If it is not good and you end up using the middle 39 tooth ring, then compact will not work for you. Small ring is too small for flats, while the big ring is too big. Triple gives you more gear range, at a 100 gram weight penalty. Why give that away?!
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Switching from a triple to double doesn't really accomplish anything, other than get rid of the inner ring. You could just unscrew it, and set the limit screw on your derailleur to only work on 2 chainrings..
Make note of the lowest gear you need, so you can get it right the first time on your next bike.
Make note of the lowest gear you need, so you can get it right the first time on your next bike.
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Of course there is a third granny ring sitting next to them just in case!
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Standard would be perfect for me, if cassettes starting from 13, or 14 teeth were easily available.
8 speed would do: 14-15-17-19-21-25-28-32
I'd prefer that - longer lasting.
8 speed would do: 14-15-17-19-21-25-28-32
I'd prefer that - longer lasting.
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I suppose I'll just leave it for the moment. I'm really comfortable on the middle ring riding the big cog in the rear casette, when I hit the hills. I don't know how much a compact would help my speeds going up a hill. I'm averaging 16kmh on an 8km 7% climb.
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FWIW, I struggled with the compact gearing on the flat when I first got it, but now I can maintain 20-ish mph on our regular Flat Friday after-work rides in 34-14/13, only switching to the big ring for the final sprint.
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I ride 11 speed with a 12-25 cassette, and having 12-19 with no gaps is heaven.
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I prefer 2 and 3 tooth jumps at lower speeds. Makes one gear shift do more "work". At the fast end of the cassette, I like 1 and 2 tooth jumps. Riding a 10 speed cassette on a road bike and the last 2 cogs (11 and 12) are almost never used. With a standard double, I'd need a bigger than 28 at the slow side of the cassette.
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Some day we'll all be on direct-drive CVT transmissions, and people will ask "how did they ever go from a 3.785 to a 3.533 ratio with nothing in between? I just couldn't do that..."
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I've been to the 10 speed and realised that for my riding, budget, maintenance hassle etc 3x8 is the sweet spot. Anything more is actually worse for me.
My commuter bicycle at this time is a bomb proof 3x6 speed MTB. And I wouldn't consider my 3x10 speed road bike a better one. If I had to choose just one bike, the road bike would go.
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Depends on time and money. My experience is that anything over 8 cogs at the rear has smaller gaps between cogs. Makes it more sensitive to dirty/worn cables/housing, takes more frequent tuning. It is also a lot more expensive. If that all is not an issue for you, or you need tighter gearing enough, then go for it. As well as the CVT.
I've been to the 10 speed and realised that for my riding, budget, maintenance hassle etc 3x8 is the sweet spot. Anything more is actually worse for me.
My commuter bicycle at this time is a bomb proof 3x6 speed MTB. And I wouldn't consider my 3x10 speed road bike a better one. If I had to choose just one bike, the road bike would go.
I've been to the 10 speed and realised that for my riding, budget, maintenance hassle etc 3x8 is the sweet spot. Anything more is actually worse for me.
My commuter bicycle at this time is a bomb proof 3x6 speed MTB. And I wouldn't consider my 3x10 speed road bike a better one. If I had to choose just one bike, the road bike would go.
I do have to admit that a coworker of mine has mechanical 11 speed Ultegra and it seems like he chases RD adjustments around more than he did with 10 speed.




