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Old 02-12-15 | 03:42 AM
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I wanna swap wheels but have some concerns...

First off my bike is a Dawes from BD. and I absolutely love it. So much so that I'm thinking about getting a nice flashy set of wheels for it soon. Now, since the current generic no name wheels that's on it now has a seven speed cassette will I have to shop only for wheels that are seven speed wheels? Or can I get a set that allow eight or nine speed cassettes as well?
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no shame in a BD purchase buddy, actually its very frugal and smart.

I believe you can get spacers that will allow you to put a 7 speed cassette on a 8/9/10 speed hub. I have not tried this but I have used a wheels mfg conversion cassette (shimano to campy) before and it worked well. good luck

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Old 02-12-15 | 04:47 AM
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How flashy is flashy? Why not go custom? They can easily be more economical than big-name off-the-shelf stuff.
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I believe a 4.5mm spacer behind your 7sp cassette will fix you right up (if the hub is 10/11sp compatible).
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You probably want the rear spacing to match your frame. What is the distance between your dropouts? 126mm or 130mm?
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You probably want the rear spacing to match your frame. What is the distance between your dropouts? 126mm or 130mm?
Though you can typically squeeze a 130mm wheelset into a 126 spaced frame with no problems. I've done this with my Trek 460 and 760, and the '88 Cannondale criterium series. We've discussed this frequently amongst the C&V crowd upstairs.
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How flashy is flashy? Why not go custom? They can easily be more economical than big-name off-the-shelf stuff.
Not necessarily, the UK pricing on Campy, Shimano and Fulcrum wheels is pretty darn competitive and offer things not readily available aftermarket. I can build my own wheels but it still is a toss up for me.
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Old 02-12-15 | 07:24 AM
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Not necessarily, the UK pricing on Campy, Shimano and Fulcrum wheels is pretty darn competitive and offer things not readily available aftermarket. I can build my own wheels but it still is a toss up for me.
I'm thinking there's not much premium for specially colored spokes and nipples, and one can put something flashy and distinctive together with a cool looking rim for less than one would pay for a pair of Zipp 404s, say.
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Old 02-12-15 | 09:18 AM
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But back to the question at hand, yes, a spacer or three between cassette and wheel and you're good to go. Pretty awesome that you love your Dawes that much. It does look fun.
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I'm thinking there's not much premium for specially colored spokes and nipples, and one can put something flashy and distinctive together with a cool looking rim for less than one would pay for a pair of Zipp 404s, say.
Perhaps, but how much will it cost you to put low aero spoked, wide flange quality hubbed , 2;1 laced , offset rim carbon rim-al brake track wheelset. I have looked , I can't match the technology, build characteristics of the system wheels available under $600.00 . I can build a nice wheel, that's repairable with economical parts, but I can not match the technology. I can not find the necessary parts over the counter or they are cost prohibitive making custom more expensive.

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Perhaps, but how much will it cost you to put low aero spoked, wide flange quality hubbed , 2;1 laced , offset rim carbon rim-al brake track wheelset. I have looked , I can't match the technology, build characteristics of the system wheels available under $600.00 . I can build a nice wheel, that's repairable with economical parts, but I can not match the technology. I can not find the necessary parts over the counter or they are cost prohibitive making custom more expensive.
Good point - if one wants a reasonable upgrade, factories do a good job putting stuff together. But I was wondering what the OP meant by "flashy." Usually it means either something visually distinctive (hence my suggestion for custom), or, if factory/stock, something obviously top-shelf - if not notoriously high-priced.
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Hi! OP Corben here. I feel horrible because I decided to just hang on to the old wheels. I wasted everyone's time and energy! A post that should not have happen. The needless carbon footprints I created just because of a whim. Forgive me.
But thanks anyway!
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Hi! OP Corben here. I feel horrible because I decided to just hang on to the old wheels. I wasted everyone's time and energy! A post that should not have happen. The needless carbon footprints I created just because of a whim. Forgive me.
But thanks anyway!
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You can mount a Shimano 7 speed freehub onto most Shimano 8/9/10 speed hubs (but not 11).
You just have to be careful on the hub you select, and expect a bit of tinkering to get all of the spacers, and possibly dishing right.
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You know you need some bling, OP! That frame will be 130mm rear hub spacing. I'd buy a nice set of Mavic Aksiums with tyres for that bike. I think they even include the spacer you need.
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You know you need some bling, OP! That frame will be 130mm rear hub spacing. I'd buy a nice set of Mavic Aksiums with tyres for that bike. I think they even include the spacer you need.
130mm you say? well then my rear derailleur ( SHIMANO CLARIS RD-2400GS BLACK ) according to google is a 8 speed. should I pick up a 8 speed cassette while I'm at it?
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130mm you say? well then my rear derailleur ( SHIMANO CLARIS RD-2400GS BLACK ) according to google is a 8 speed. should I pick up a 8 speed cassette while I'm at it?
I wouldn't, your shifters are 7 speed, if you go to 8 speed cassette you'll have to change the shifters to 8 speed.
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Old 02-17-15 | 11:43 AM
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I wouldn't, your shifters are 7 speed, if you go to 8 speed cassette you'll have to change the shifters to 8 speed.
Damn I didn't think of that! I still have that down tube shifting mentality.
hmmm.... also more food for thought.
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Not necessarily, the UK pricing on Campy, Shimano and Fulcrum wheels is pretty darn competitive and offer things not readily available aftermarket. I can build my own wheels but it still is a toss up for me.
+1. I'd suggest the OP check out the Fulcrum Racing 7's from Ribble. Especially the wider 'LG' version that comes packaged with a pair of tires and three tubes.
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+1. I'd suggest the OP check out the Fulcrum Racing 7's from Ribble. Especially the wider 'LG' version that comes packaged with a pair of tires and three tubes.
I was more interested in the Fulcrum 3. I have Fulcrum 5's and really like them , just would a little more responsiveness from the lighter machined rim.
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I was more interested in the Fulcrum 3. I have Fulcrum 5's and really like them, just would a little more responsiveness from the lighter machined rim.
My suggestion for the 7's was for the original poster (OP) of this thread. I think that's about the most I'd sink into wheels for a sub $400 bike.

I'm sure the 3's are great. I actually have a new set of the 5's sitting around, but I might sell 'em as the nipples don't really match my bikes (I know, I know...).
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What do you have now? Kenda k-152s?
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