Should I replace this tire?
#51
Still can't climb
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,024
Likes: 6
From: Limey in Taiwan
other than the waste issue, i think this thead brings up the fear of everything risk averse paranoia in some cyclists. why not change your chain every 1000 miles? you could break a link and a hard effort standing and go down!
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
#53
Senior Member

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 28,682
Likes: 63
From: Houston, TX
Bikes: 1990 Romic Reynolds 531 custom build, Merlin Works CR Ti custom build, super light Workswell 066 custom build
#54
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 1
From: Minnesota
Bikes: '09 Trek 2.1 * '75 Sekine * 2010 Raleigh Talus 8.0 * '90 Giant Mtb * Raleigh M20 * Fuji Nevada mtb
Uhh, that's kind of a good point. We should here from the OP soon. Hopefully.....
__________________
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
#56
well hello there

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 15,489
Likes: 388
From: Point Loma, CA
Bikes: Bill Holland (Road-Ti), Fuji Roubaix Pro (back-up), Bike Friday (folder), Co-Motion (tandem) & Trek 750 (hybrid)
Sunday I rode on a tyre that was soooo much worse than the OP's.
But today I switched it out.
But today I switched it out.
__________________
.
.
Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.
.
.
Two wheels good. Four wheels bad.
#57
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 6,682
Likes: 4
From: Above ground, Walnut Creek, Ca
Bikes: 8 ss bikes, 1 5-speed touring bike
i've got a couple NOS ones that look like that. and, honest to god, i'm anticipating the opportunity to put them on. 
i like to think of it as a random longitudinal herringbone tread pattern, or "RLHTP Technology™".

i like to think of it as a random longitudinal herringbone tread pattern, or "RLHTP Technology™".
Last edited by hueyhoolihan; 02-16-15 at 07:54 PM.
#58
Senior Member
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,968
Likes: 1
From: Minnesota
Bikes: '09 Trek 2.1 * '75 Sekine * 2010 Raleigh Talus 8.0 * '90 Giant Mtb * Raleigh M20 * Fuji Nevada mtb
Anyone seen the OP around anywhere? I'm getting worried....
__________________
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
FB4K - Every October we wrench on donated bikes. Every December, a few thousand kids get bikes for Christmas. For many, it is their first bike, ever. Every bike, new and used, was donated, built, cleaned and repaired. Check us out on FaceBook: FB4K.
Disclaimer: 99% of what I know about cycling I learned on BF. That would make, ummm, 1% experience. And a lot of posts.
#59
I sure hope it's safe. I inspect my tires often enough, but not under a magnifying glass, and I don't think I'd notice if the rubber looked like that unless I did. I would notice the squaring off, though. Like others have said, handling would be sharper with a fresh, round tire, but I don't think it's unsafe to have a slightly square one, and I wouldn't be concerned until I started noticing wear-through.
#60
Senior Member
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,859
Likes: 5
From: IL-USA
If you can pinch the deflated tire and see exposed threads at the bottom of any of the cracks, then it should be replaced.
The reason is that road dirt will work down the cracks, get into into the threads and start abrading them internally.
#61
Thread Starter
777
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
Bikes: '12 Specialized Allez, '06 Felt F1X, '86 Bianchi Classica, '78 Peugeot U09
Sorry for the lack of update fellas. I ended up throwing a fresh Pro4SC on the front. The old tire was indeed squared off, as evidenced by how smoothly the new one falls into corners. Definitely a huge improvement in how planted the front end feels. Here's a short clip carving some tarmac from that ride on the new tires:
(for some reason the front pads (stock ultegra) started making nasty noises on this descent, I replaced em with swissstops, all good now)
(for some reason the front pads (stock ultegra) started making nasty noises on this descent, I replaced em with swissstops, all good now)
#62
Should Be More Popular




Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 46,194
Likes: 11,755
From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
#63
I wouldn't think twice if that were on the rear wheel. You made the right choice up front.
__________________
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
"The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna try to get you to follow. You just gotta keep livin', man, L-I-V-I-N." - Wooderson
'14 carbon Synapse - '12 CAAD 10 5 - '99 Gary Fisher Big Sur
#64
Super Moderator

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,980
Likes: 1,157
From: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales
"squared off" tires are not to be feared. The contact patch with the ground is the same.
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
#65
Still can't climb
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,024
Likes: 6
From: Limey in Taiwan
Sorry for the lack of update fellas. I ended up throwing a fresh Pro4SC on the front. The old tire was indeed squared off, as evidenced by how smoothly the new one falls into corners. Definitely a huge improvement in how planted the front end feels. Here's a short clip carving some tarmac from that ride on the new tires:
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer
No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
#66
Should Be More Popular




Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 46,194
Likes: 11,755
From: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
#67
well hello there

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 15,489
Likes: 388
From: Point Loma, CA
Bikes: Bill Holland (Road-Ti), Fuji Roubaix Pro (back-up), Bike Friday (folder), Co-Motion (tandem) & Trek 750 (hybrid)
#68
I've experienced the difference between squared-off tires and fresh ones, but I wouldn't have said it made anything feel more "planted." Rather I did find the handling smoother, more evenly and precisely responsive.
#69
I can definitely feel the difference between squared off tires versus new ones on a descent. I've never felt less safe, but there is certainly a different feel to how the bike handles. It's almost as if the bike wants to ride in a straight line more than normal.
However, I'm talking about tires that look way more squared off than the one in the OP's picture. That's nowhere near squared off in my mind.
However, I'm talking about tires that look way more squared off than the one in the OP's picture. That's nowhere near squared off in my mind.
#70
Banned
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,555
Likes: 1
From: lower mitten
Bikes: With round 700c & 26" wheels
Buying expensive road bike - check
Beating your buddies max speed - check
Saving $40 on an old tire and crashing, losing the bike and being unable to ride fast for a year - PRICELESS
Here is the tip - If the tire is looking much different than when new - There must be something wrong with it.
Beating your buddies max speed - check
Saving $40 on an old tire and crashing, losing the bike and being unable to ride fast for a year - PRICELESS
Here is the tip - If the tire is looking much different than when new - There must be something wrong with it.
#71
Super Moderator

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,980
Likes: 1,157
From: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales
Buying expensive road bike - check
Beating your buddies max speed - check
Saving $40 on an old tire and crashing, losing the bike and being unable to ride fast for a year - PRICELESS
Here is the tip - If the tire is looking much different than when new - There must be something wrong with it.
Beating your buddies max speed - check
Saving $40 on an old tire and crashing, losing the bike and being unable to ride fast for a year - PRICELESS
Here is the tip - If the tire is looking much different than when new - There must be something wrong with it.
As mentioned many times, the better tire should be on the front, but no reason not to get full life out of the rear tire.
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
#72
Banned
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,555
Likes: 1
From: lower mitten
Bikes: With round 700c & 26" wheels
I can't believe my eyes I see such opinions. That sounds just plain stupid. Darwin award may come your way one day, but don't suggest to others that dangerous choices. Cheap snob is what comes to my mind.
Rant over, stay safe and use your heads...
#73
Banned
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,555
Likes: 1
From: lower mitten
Bikes: With round 700c & 26" wheels
Cracked tire is NOT a good or safe tire. This one already did 2000 miles, and OP posted this thread here for a reason.
#74
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,248
Likes: 4
From: Seattle
Bikes: Kuota Ksano. Litespeed T5 gravel - brilliant!
My riding center is hilly and twisty. My tires wear accordingly. The OP's tire looked as though it had seen a lot of straight roads.
Some riders are more likely to ride on the peripheral parts of the tires. Heck, some people can't make a left turn worth a damn but can sweep through rights turns like nobody's business. We tend to wear tires differently.
Some riders are more likely to ride on the peripheral parts of the tires. Heck, some people can't make a left turn worth a damn but can sweep through rights turns like nobody's business. We tend to wear tires differently.
#75
Super Moderator

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 21,980
Likes: 1,157
From: Ffld Cnty Connecticut
Bikes: Old Steelies I made, Old Cannondales
No.
Damaged tires should be replaced immediately, especially if front tires. 1/2 worn tires can still be used.
Tires do not explode after half the rubber is worn. The cords/casing are the important part, and any damage to them most likely requires a new tire. The rubber does protect the tube also, but not as much.
So, replace it whenever you want, but I prefer to get full use before replacing.
Damaged tires should be replaced immediately, especially if front tires. 1/2 worn tires can still be used.
Tires do not explode after half the rubber is worn. The cords/casing are the important part, and any damage to them most likely requires a new tire. The rubber does protect the tube also, but not as much.
So, replace it whenever you want, but I prefer to get full use before replacing.
__________________
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Bikes: Old steel race bikes, old Cannondale race bikes, less old Cannondale race bike, crappy old mtn bike.
FYI: https://www.bikeforums.net/forum-sugg...ad-please.html
Last edited by Homebrew01; 02-21-15 at 11:20 AM.






