Trolling the web for NAHBS photos, I found this at the Prolly blog:

https://prollyisnotprobably.com/2011/...elli_produ.php

awesome. Have been looking at these on eBay. Hopefully I can get them direct from Cinelli at a better price.

Crap! I just bought an XE NOS stem for $135 because I need a 90mm! I guess it's great though that the classic combo of Cinelli quill stem and bars is back!! And, double grooved baby, just like the late 90's version!

I wonder why they added that angular bit at the clamp area. All 1A's that I've seen have either a wide or narrow slot - but never angular.

-Kurt

Nice, but I always preferred the Mod. 65 bars. Still, it's always good to have more options, not that Nitto has given me a reason to stop using their fine and shiny products...

See, I knew it! https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-stems-(again)

has anyone heard any more about these reissues? am building up a bike and would love to get my hands on some 66-44s without paying ridiculous prices on eBay for "NOS".

Interesting that Cinelli bothered to re-issue these 1A stems as there's really not that big a market for them with Nitto already satisfying most demands for many years now. Some company official at Cinelli must be a 70's/80's C&V hardcore fan, or his kid is a hipster that has an eye for these older designs for his SS/FG retro steel bike?.

Chombi

Giro's are my favourite bars, being a smallish kinda guy who like tight cockpits. I tried the Criterium bars for a while, but not really my thing. No need for the stems though, got most sizes already for 10 euro's on the internet . Giro bars seem hard to come by though.

Is that so? Everyone who needs a nice quill stem wants Nitto? I think not

These are going to sell out, especially because of the fixie market.

Certainly, those people who want a bar that creaks and groans can pick up the Cinelli.

The fixie/SS market has been dying quicker than druged out pop star.....

I think the primary market is for poor sods like me that gladly fork over huge amounts of dough for (perceived) Italian components. come to think of it, my fixie is the only bike I have with shimano stuff on it, even my SS mountainbike is being converted to Campy atm (it already has an italmanubri cockpit).

Uhmmm.... re-issuesd Turbo and Concor saddles selling like hots cakes?? I think not too.....
I suspect it could be the same with the 1A after a short time back in the market. Maybe the 1R woould be a better stem to re-issue as it was such a signature stem for Cinelli so much more visible/recognizable in all media covering the pro races in the 80's and one that more 80's sport cyclist (including me) longed to have on their bikes, more than the 1A.....

Chombi

What's your point? I'm just stating there is a market for these. I'm not making claims about how many they'd sell. I can see them re-issueing more classics, or even better, 31.8 handlebars with crit or giro bends!

Also, I do own a new Turbo I'm not gonna put a Charge Bucket on Italian steel.

My point is, why bother with reissuing the 1A, when not too many people are looking for it anymore. Like I noted, maybe the 1R would be easier to sell in bigger volume, which you would think would make more business sense for Cinelli. I also bought a reissued saddle, A Concor Supercorsa. But from the looks of it, many of the bike shops in the area have a lot of stock of the reissued saddles unsold and languishing on their racks. Lots of Turbos, especially, even at their very low retail price. I think most C&Vers that would buy the reissued saddles have bought what they wanted already, so they are mostly ignored on the store displays these days.

Chombi

Here's one similar with the angular clamp opening....



Eddy Merckx reissue from 1990......more here:

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...w=1242&bih=803

1R stems were and still are notorious for the wedges cracking which in turn leads to loose bars. If Cinelli were to introduce the 1R they should go for the death double and re-issue the XA along side it.

Well, the Cinelli rep at NAHBS, when I was there, anyway, was a C&V fan, and looked about the same age as my bikes. The bars and the stem got a lot of attention at the show. He's either on C&V or Velospace, because when I mentioned the Cinelli Centurion, he described the two that I've re-done/rehabbed.....

I run Cinelli stems/bars on all but 1 of my bikes, and will switch that over, eventually. The price is the price, and I'll probably pay it. The bars fit my hands, and the stems come with the bars, at 26.4....

I think all the new ones are 26.0, but I'm surely not sure.

I have two 1A stems and never experienced the creaking problem. I also have an XA stem, but really like the simple shape and history of the A1 better. It's a timeless design that fits on anything vintage, high or low-end.

All it will take is to plaster their adds with images of all the TDF Pro heros using the 1Rs in action back in the 80's............ and everyine will come.......
BTW, I don't hate the 1A stem. On the contrary I think it's great, .......but it will not catch the attention of most people because of it's "plain" looks. I had a 1A stem on my PSV since l bought it in 1984 (as I needed more room than the original Atax aero stem provided on top) matched up to an ITM handlebar and it never ever creaked on me.....

Chombi

Everyone is griping about the stems, but I am more happy about the re-release of the Giro, which is the One True Handlebar. Im tired of paying good money for questionable vintage bars on eBay.

I think the 1A is the most beautiful, simple, elegant design ever. And the Giro's are my favorite bars. If this is a nod to the C&V folks, I hope they include a non-grooved version.

To bad , I have a 1a 90 mm that I will never use.