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Old 08-18-11 | 10:42 AM
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Help needed outfitting Specialized Hard Rock Sport for commuting

Hi, all. First post here. Thanks for all help in advance.

I'm in a situation where I need to commute to work everyday on what I believe is a 2004 Specialized Hard Rock Sport (bought used a few years ago).

I am newish to cycling in general, and have never commuted daily or had any of the equipment necessary for that.

Would anyone help me please?
I'm pretty sure I want a rear rack, bag that can attach to it, and some fenders. We have four seasons where I live and I figure that the above equipment is a minimum to get me going.

My head is spinning a bit after looking at all the choices I have when it comes to which rack/bag/ fenders to buy.

Will anyone familiar with a mid-2000s Specialized Hard Rock tell me which specific accessory brands will fit on my bike?

My goals are simply: 1) needs to fit. 2) inexpensive.

Thanks!
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Old 08-18-11 | 11:13 AM
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Your Specialized dealer, or other Bike shops. will narrow down
the vast assortment for you, to what they have in stock.
and you save on shipping, by going in.
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Old 08-18-11 | 11:19 AM
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Thanks, I'm checking out a bike shop today. I live in a small town and the shop is pretty small. But I figure that's where I need to start.

It would be nice, still, to hear from Specialized owners about the accessory models they are happy with. I don't have any Specialized dealers near me, and I may have to end up ordering online.

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Originally Posted by jdalew619
Hi, all. First post here. Thanks for all help in advance.

I'm in a situation where I need to commute to work everyday on what I believe is a 2004 Specialized Hard Rock Sport (bought used a few years ago).

I am newish to cycling in general, and have never commuted daily or had any of the equipment necessary for that.

Would anyone help me please?
I'm pretty sure I want a rear rack, bag that can attach to it, and some fenders. We have four seasons where I live and I figure that the above equipment is a minimum to get me going.

My head is spinning a bit after looking at all the choices I have when it comes to which rack/bag/ fenders to buy.

Will anyone familiar with a mid-2000s Specialized Hard Rock tell me which specific accessory brands will fit on my bike?

My goals are simply: 1) needs to fit. 2) inexpensive.

Thanks!
The rack and bag are easy. Just about any rack should fit and you needn't go too expensive on it. The bags usually attach with velcro and are interchangeable. Topeak makes a slightly different system that fits on their racks and aren't interchangeable. Their racks work with any bag but their bags don't work with just any rack.

Fenders, on the other hand, are more problematic. Unless you want to change the front fork (not in keeping with your wishes to keep it cheap), you'll probably want to use a fender that's made for suspension fork. I use the SKS Shockblade. It works well with the shock and doesn't require funky mounting.

The rear is more difficult because of the v-brakes. The rack will do a lot of the work that you need to keep water off your back but it won't do anything to keep the glop off your drivetrain. Conventional fenders offer more coverage but they might not fit between the v-brakes. I've found that I can route something like the SKS Adventure fender over the v-brakes and then attach a lower section of the fender (use the part of the front fender) to extend it. Like this


This is what the whole bike looks like



Make sure you attach the end of the fender to the rack or it will hit the tire and buzz annoyingly.
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I've got the classic version of the Hardrock, and put the following from your list on it to aid in my commute. It's what works for me, you may/may not want to do the same.
1) 26 x 1.5 Forte slicks. These were under $10 when I bought them years ago. Don't forget to get new tubes if you change tires.
2) Topeak Explorer rack for my panniers; I used a cheap Delta rack before I got panniers.
3) Nashbar expanding rack trunk. It's cheap, durable, holds a lot and is used by many because it works so well.

Does that help?
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If you are not very mechanical I'd second the LBS recommendation. Most shops can order pretty much anything, and they can install things for you if necessary. If you don't need install help, then you could save a few bucks buying online.
Fenders from SKS or Planet Bike are good and not too expensive if you shop around. Make sure you get wide, 26" ones. V-Brakes can be a pain, but you can run the fender over them, as above, trim the fender to be a bit narrower where they go through the brake arms, or just let the brakes squeeze the fenders when you apply them.
I have Topeak rack and bag and like them. As noted, any bag will work on the Topeak rack, but the Topeak bag is designed to only work on their rack. Make sense? The Topeak bag is great if you need to take the bag on-and-off a lot - like every time you get off the bike. If that's not important to you, then any bag will work fine. Racks are about $30 on amazon, etc.
I would also give a strong +1 to replacing your knobby tires with smooth tires that have a flat-prevention layer. They roll much better, and save you repairing a flat constantly. You should be able to get a pair of tires and tubes for $50 if you shop the major online sources for a deal or sale.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
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Old 08-18-11 | 04:51 PM
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Excellent information everyone. Thank you very much. Your advice has helped me narrow some things down!
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I've got the classic version of the Hardrock, and put the following from your list on it to aid in my commute. It's what works for me, you may/may not want to do the same.
1) 26 x 1.5 Forte slicks. These were under $10 when I bought them years ago. Don't forget to get new tubes if you change tires.
2) Topeak Explorer rack for my panniers; I used a cheap Delta rack before I got panniers.
3) Nashbar expanding rack trunk. It's cheap, durable, holds a lot and is used by many because it works so well.

Does that help?

IMHO, this is good advice, and about as cheap as you'll get for good stuff. Just make sure you get a rack/bag combo that doesn't cause heel strike, if you use panniers. Non-knobby tires will make a HUGE difference in speed for the same effort.
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The Hardrock has rack and fender eyelets at the rear but not at the front. (The Stumpjumer above lacks these useful features)
Fit a standard rear rack that bolts to the frame.
I would suggest a pannier with modern quick-release locking hooks rather than velcro or hook and elastic. Make sure the panniers fit to the racks.
The Hardrock can accept a bolt-on rear fender such as SKS chromoplastic. These come in F/R sets. The F one will not fit unless you get some kind of bracket to the suspension fork. Most people fit clip-on fenders which are not so effective.
The Hardrock is a bit heavy at the front due to the fork. You may want to consider switching to a ridgid chromoly fork with fender eyelets (eg Kona Project). Some older bike shops have used forks kicking around in corners.

Get some good quality commuter style tyres. Puncture resistance will prevent you being late for work, which is more important than ultimate speed. For snow , normal MTB tyres are good but for ice, they are not good enough. You can buy studded winter tyres or make your own. My DIY studded tyres worked well and didnt cost much.
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Old 08-19-11 | 07:20 AM
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Not to turn this into a paiiers versus backpack thread, but just to throw in my $0.02, I prefer a backpack strapped onto a rear rack for many reasons. I use a pair of surly junk straps ($8 each) to fasten the backpack to the rear rack & it works well for me. The reason I mention it is that you said you're looking to do this inexpensively & if you already have a backpack, this might save you some $. Panniers also have their benefits.
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I rode a 2003 Hardrock exclusively for 7 years and I still have it (though it is disassembled at the moment). I added a Jandd Expedition rack that I got for a good price and have been more than happy with it (I still use the rack daily on my current primary steed). The nice thing about the Jandd is that if you have big feet it gives you a few more inches to slide back panniers for heel clearance on bikes with short chain stays (like most MTBs). My wife has a Hardrock of a much smaller frame size and it also fit a Performance brand rack without problems (I just had to bend the rack stays down a bit, but easy install).

Here is my 2003 Specialized Hardrock when it was mostly stock, but with Crank Bros Mallet pedals, Jandd expedition rack, and Michelin 26x1.5 semi-slicks. I later added Planet Bike Cascadia fenders, which I really like:

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I'll second the recommendation to swap the stock suspension fork for something rigid. I commuted on a 2003 Hardrock (basically the same bike as above just much smaller) for about 4 years before moving on to something lighter. I added a Surly 1x1 rigid fork, Planet Bike Freddy fenders, an Old Man Mountain rear rack, and slick tires for the three warmer seasons. I still use the bike in winter whenever there is the threat of or actual snow/ice on the roads with Nokian Mount and Ground WS160 tires.

When I was commuting year round on the bike I swapped out the stock MTB crankset for a 48/38/28 to give me more top end gearing. I'm back to using the stock crankset now as I often need the low gearing to get up some steep hills in the snow.

Additionally, I cut the stock handlebars to make them about 2" more narrow. This made a huge improvement in comfort for me especially when using bar ends.
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Originally Posted by jdalew619
Hi, all. First post here. Thanks for all help in advance.

I'm in a situation where I need to commute to work everyday on what I believe is a 2004 Specialized Hard Rock Sport (bought used a few years ago).

I am newish to cycling in general, and have never commuted daily or had any of the equipment necessary for that.

Would anyone help me please?
I'm pretty sure I want a rear rack, bag that can attach to it, and some fenders. We have four seasons where I live and I figure that the above equipment is a minimum to get me going.

My head is spinning a bit after looking at all the choices I have when it comes to which rack/bag/ fenders to buy.

Will anyone familiar with a mid-2000s Specialized Hard Rock tell me which specific accessory brands will fit on my bike?

My goals are simply: 1) needs to fit. 2) inexpensive.

Thanks!
Does you bike have disc brakes? If so that will affect your choice in pannier racks.

I have an '05 Hardrock that has disc brakes, and I have a nice Topeak pannier rack on the back, a nice set of pannier bags with a detachable backpack, a Specialized "Six pack" rack mounted to the front. As well as a Yakima trailer. I have also added Specialized CF bar ends and SPD clipless pedals.

And have logged something like 9k miles on it.
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If you are not very mechanical I'd second the LBS recommendation. Most shops can order pretty much anything, and they can install things for you if necessary. If you don't need install help, then you could save a few bucks buying online.
Fenders from SKS or Planet Bike are good and not too expensive if you shop around. Make sure you get wide, 26" ones. V-Brakes can be a pain, but you can run the fender over them, as above, trim the fender to be a bit narrower where they go through the brake arms, or just let the brakes squeeze the fenders when you apply them.
I have Topeak rack and bag and like them. As noted, any bag will work on the Topeak rack, but the Topeak bag is designed to only work on their rack. Make sense? The Topeak bag is great if you need to take the bag on-and-off a lot - like every time you get off the bike. If that's not important to you, then any bag will work fine. Racks are about $30 on amazon, etc.
I would also give a strong +1 to replacing your knobby tires with smooth tires that have a flat-prevention layer. They roll much better, and save you repairing a flat constantly. You should be able to get a pair of tires and tubes for $50 if you shop the major online sources for a deal or sale.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
Yes, I forgot about the tires. I replaced the knobby tires with Specialized Armadillo road tires. When I was still running with the stock knobby tires I had the Mr. Tuffy liners in them. Going to the Amadillo's I haven't had to add anything for puncture resistance.
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The Hardrock has rack and fender eyelets at the rear but not at the front. (The Stumpjumer above lacks these useful features)
Fit a standard rear rack that bolts to the frame.
I would suggest a pannier with modern quick-release locking hooks rather than Velcro or hook and elastic. Make sure the panniers fit to the racks.
The Hardrock can accept a bolt-on rear fender such as SKS chromoplastic. These come in F/R sets. The F one will not fit unless you get some kind of bracket to the suspension fork. Most people fit clip-on fenders which are not so effective.
The Hardrock is a bit heavy at the front due to the fork. You may want to consider switching to a ridgid chromoly fork with fender eyelets (eg Kona Project). Some older bike shops have used forks kicking around in corners.

Get some good quality commuter style tyres. Puncture resistance will prevent you being late for work, which is more important than ultimate speed. For snow , normal MTB tyres are good but for ice, they are not good enough. You can buy studded winter tyres or make your own. My DIY studded tyres worked well and didn't cost much.
Having disc brakes on my bike, I am able to mount a pannier rack to the front of my Hardrock.



I haven't added fenders, yet but am thinking of doing so. I am also thinking of upgrading my brakes from mechanical to hydraulic.
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