EddyR

Can one of you Raleigh guys tell me what model, tubing the 70's Raleigh is. Not my bike.
Ed

rhenning

What model is the bike. Raleigh used many different types of tubing depending n the model name of the bike. Is it a Record, Grand Prix, Competition or what. Raleigh used everything from 1020 seamed tubing to Reynolds double butted 531. Generally Nottingham bikes used cheaper tubing and Raleigh used their own numbers on it. Roger

EddyR

rhenning What you said is true. But there are guys on here that can look at it and tell pretty close what model it is. It is not a Record. It has drilled break levers,aluminum wheels,small flange hubs.Cabling runs on top, side pull breaks. I have little Raleigh knowledge but maybe someone will have had one like it.The 1976 models had the chrome on the forks and stays.
Ed

SteveSGP

I could be wrong but I think any Raleigh that vintage with chrome fork legs and rear triangle would have to be Reynolds 531.

Zaphod Beeblebrox 

I'd hazard a guess that it's an International. They used a color like that. Just don't count on the components necessarily being what "belongs" on there. Obviously its had some more modern parts put on

If its an international that would be full 531 frame and fork.

randyjawa 

A closer look at frame detail would help. It could well be an early seventies Competition. Good bike if that is what it is.

The one pictured here is of 1977 vintage...

David Newton

Unless I'm mistaken, an International would have the fancy Nervex or Capella lugs, chromed, so this isn't an International.
Better chance of the Comp. Still 531 though.

EddyR

Well I talked to the man who is selling it and I will see the bike at 4pm today unless someone sneeks in there before me. I think it looks like a 77-79 Competion GP from what I have found online. It looks like a repaint and the shifters are mounted lower than normal. Very interesting stem.
Ed

cudak888 

If you have a photo of the fork crown, post it. If it's a Wagner crown with two curves in the design, Super Course. If a single curve with two points, Competition G.S.

-Kurt

Wogster

How do you know it's Nottingham built? Don't go by the head badge, mine says it's a Nottingham Raleigh and the bike was made in Canada according to the serial number.... I think Raleigh used everything from gas pipe to 531 in those days, that one has no labels, and may have been updated along the way. Best indicator is heft, if it's less then 25lbs it's probably something decent, 25-30lbs it's probably next level down the food chain, more then 30lbs it's probably gas pipe, but even gas pipe is better then some of the plastic shi* they use now....

SteveSGP

I own two Raleighs with Nottingham head badges and both were also labled "Made in England" at the bottom of the seat tube, My Ireland, Holland and Japanese Raleighs all had head badges that just say "The Raleigh" nothing else and then they have the "Made in" decal again at the bottom of the seat tube.

EddyR

I now have the bike and I don't know much about it yet. It is a very old Copper repaint. It has Zeus competition drop outs. All the small parts are campy. I have flipped a few 531 frames and this is a 531 frame. With all the junk on it it weight around 24 pounds,just a guess. It is super dirty,black grease.
Serial number 315061. Seat tube came right out and it is double butt 531 seat tube 27.??. Pictures and more to come late tomorrow.
It has the bracket for the rear center pull breaks.
Thanks for the help so far.
Ed

EddyR

Sorry I took so long getting back but I have been at a model airplane contest all weekend. I believe I have figured out the model and year. It seems to be a Gran Sport from 1972. The serial number on the rear dropout was only in 1972 and only on two models. The bike weighs 22lb 8 ounces with the peddles and bars.Catalog for 1972 shows 22 pounds. Bike is a repaint but a long time ago as the paint is rock hard. Lacquer thinner would not touch it. The head badge is held on with screws, it does not say made in Nottingham. The color is all wrong and when I removed the aluminum seat tube all there was is bronze over spray from the repaint. When I remove the BB and the head set maybe the original color will show. It has Campagnolo front dérailleur,stem, seat tube cable guide.Suntour V-Lux rear dérailleur. Chrome Zeus dropouts. Center pull brakes are long gone but it does have the under the top tube cable guides. Crank arms are BSA with 54 tooth chain wheel,ugly.Mafax leavers with Dia-comp brakes. I like the old Mavic module-e2 wheels as I have used them before. The paint job and update must have been done a long time ago but I like it. Anyone know what the number 11 on the bottom bracket means? Serial number 315061 on rear dropout.
If anyone can add to this or change the date and model let me know.
I have painter a few bikes so this one will get the Raleigh team colors with auto clear on top.

EddyR

Four more pictures to go with those above.
Ed

mkeller234

My guess, you have a repainted Gran Sport.

EddyR

mkeller234
That was my guess also. I put it at 1972 as that was the year that Raleigh put the numbers only on the rear dropout. Once I found the site giving the serial number information and this bike with the numbers only no letters that pretty well made it a Gran Sport. Also the weight ,22-23 pounds puts it there. The newer lighter parts bring it down to 21 lb. Most of the Gran Sport's I found on the forum are white and blue. I will post pictures here and in the Before and After Thread when I get it set the way I want it.
Ed

mkeller234

Wow, that is pretty darned light. My bikes are a bit larger but I think my Gran sport weighs about 26-27 pounds. Even my Raleigh Professional is about 24 pounds.

I figured Gran sport because of the Zeus dropouts, which again would make yours an earlier model. Mine has generic dropouts with no hanger and I have guessed mine is a 73. The Nervar crank on your bike might be original, they came on some of the later gran sports.

EddyR

I guessed the weight at 24 pounds when I bought it. The weight I gave is accurate. I am a bike flipper and have flipped over 400 bikes most being high end. I have sold a few Raleigh's but only one 531 model. The wheels and breaks are lighter than the ones that came on it. I bought it for my self not to flip as I am down to my one bike I ride all the time 1997 Cadd3 Cannondale. Every two years I look for a vintage light bike that needs a paint job and build something different. I may get a Campy rear dérailleur to match the front. I will also check the weight of the free wheel as a lot of weight can be saved there. It has a 54 tooth main chain ring, I have never ridden anything that large so I may look for a 52-39 light set.I think the one on there is ugly but maybe when I polish it it will look better.
Thanks for the input.
Ed

formicaman

Looks exactly like my '78 Competition right down to the cable clamps and chromed fork and dropouts. The stock weight from catalog was 24 lbs for the 23" model. It was Reynolds.

noglider 

The Gran Sport is a pretty nice bike. The worst features are the long reach brakes and the stamped dropouts. I had one, long ago.