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Hey, how about that new Origami Swift?
Xootr offered the stem posts in an extra long size, will Origami have that option?
Xootr offered the stem posts in an extra long size, will Origami have that option?
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Options for tall cyclists would be nice. Maybe made to accommodate a 36” inseam or more. I think the original Xootr could handle people as tall as 6'7”.
As far as I know there is only one folding bike for tall people. The tall Brompton, which I test rode, but I like the Xootr Swift more both for ride and affordability. Bike Friday excluded since it is more of a travel bicycle.
Combining a 300 lb. weight limit with options for taller cyclists would be a great pairing.
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These are the stem lengths. Stems are cheap and easy to replace.
I'm talking about the post that goes between the headset and the stem. My Xootr (bought used) has a 250mm post, and I have to use a threaded to threadless adapter to get a bit more height. I would like to see at least 300mm... to go along with the assuredly coming XL size
I'm talking about the post that goes between the headset and the stem. My Xootr (bought used) has a 250mm post, and I have to use a threaded to threadless adapter to get a bit more height. I would like to see at least 300mm... to go along with the assuredly coming XL size
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Looks like you don’t need to change the frame size to accommodate taller riders. A smaller frame with which you can do this also means you are able offer smaller riders the ability to own such a bicycle. As a short person 5’4’’, I find that manufacturers tend to focus on taller average riders with large frames and wheels. Try and find a medium quality bike with 20,24 or 26 inch wheels.
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Looks like you don’t need to change the frame size to accommodate taller riders. A smaller frame with which you can do this also means you are able offer smaller riders the ability to own such a bicycle. As a short person 5’4’’, I find that manufacturers tend to focus on taller average riders with large frames and wheels. Try and find a medium quality bike with 20,24 or 26 inch wheels.
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As a short person 5’4’’, I find that manufacturers tend to focus on taller average riders with large frames and wheels. Try and find a medium quality bike with 20,24 or 26 inch wheels.
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I would love to own a Swift, so good luck to you in your new venture Paul.
As with your other bikes, shipping to Europe would be an issue for me.
Was a time I visited the US a lot, and disassembled a DT Mini with my late uncle, which later got stolen here in the UK.
Hey, a life told by episodes with a folding bike
Good luck again !!!11
As with your other bikes, shipping to Europe would be an issue for me.
Was a time I visited the US a lot, and disassembled a DT Mini with my late uncle, which later got stolen here in the UK.
Hey, a life told by episodes with a folding bike
Good luck again !!!11
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I would love to own a Swift, so good luck to you in your new venture Paul.
As with your other bikes, shipping to Europe would be an issue for me.
Was a time I visited the US a lot, and disassembled a DT Mini with my late uncle, which later got stolen here in the UK.
Hey, a life told by episodes with a folding bike
Good luck again !!!11
As with your other bikes, shipping to Europe would be an issue for me.
Was a time I visited the US a lot, and disassembled a DT Mini with my late uncle, which later got stolen here in the UK.
Hey, a life told by episodes with a folding bike
Good luck again !!!11
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OK, here is the final prototype. I know that some of you don't like the rack, but it is stronger than our other options, and it looks pretty good in black. We will begin production in about 2-weeks.
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That ring is cool.
Some oddball questions...
Does the seat post have a min insertion marking and does said marking account for the needs of this bike in particular? or asking another way how far down into the lower half of the seat tube must the seat post go
What's the chain line? standard 1x not-boost, like 49mm ish? With a single ring on a double crankset is the ring in the right plane?
Should I not ask about weight?
Some oddball questions...
Does the seat post have a min insertion marking and does said marking account for the needs of this bike in particular? or asking another way how far down into the lower half of the seat tube must the seat post go
What's the chain line? standard 1x not-boost, like 49mm ish? With a single ring on a double crankset is the ring in the right plane?
Should I not ask about weight?
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Congratulations, Paul! Hope you had fun developing this idea. I'm glad you did it. New Origami animal in the stable!
Have you come to any firm decisions about production colours yet?
The rack is fine as far as it goes, (useful for some people) but I hope that you put out plenty of photos featuring the bike without the rack on it. It's a very pretty machine and also sleek and fast. The rack detracts from its good looks and appeal as a speedy bike. My own bias says a Swift is a fast road bike substitute that goes anywhere I want it to, be it me pedalling it up a mountain or around town or it folded in the boot of a car or tucked with the luggage under a bus. The world of folding bikes needs an affordable answer to the expensive Pocket Rockets, Moultons and Tyrells. The Swift is the one. It's a better bike than all of those. But that's just my opinion.
Have you come to any firm decisions about production colours yet?
The rack is fine as far as it goes, (useful for some people) but I hope that you put out plenty of photos featuring the bike without the rack on it. It's a very pretty machine and also sleek and fast. The rack detracts from its good looks and appeal as a speedy bike. My own bias says a Swift is a fast road bike substitute that goes anywhere I want it to, be it me pedalling it up a mountain or around town or it folded in the boot of a car or tucked with the luggage under a bus. The world of folding bikes needs an affordable answer to the expensive Pocket Rockets, Moultons and Tyrells. The Swift is the one. It's a better bike than all of those. But that's just my opinion.
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If its not possible to use rear pannier, the rack loose a lot of its utility.
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That ring is cool.
Some oddball questions...
Does the seat post have a min insertion marking and does said marking account for the needs of this bike in particular? or asking another way how far down into the lower half of the seat tube must the seat post go
What's the chain line? standard 1x not-boost, like 49mm ish? With a single ring on a double crankset is the ring in the right plane?
Should I not ask about weight?
Some oddball questions...
Does the seat post have a min insertion marking and does said marking account for the needs of this bike in particular? or asking another way how far down into the lower half of the seat tube must the seat post go
What's the chain line? standard 1x not-boost, like 49mm ish? With a single ring on a double crankset is the ring in the right plane?
Should I not ask about weight?
The chianline is 49mm +/-
Well, the production weight will be a little lower, but I will get an exact weight soon.
Oh, the chainring is the same one that we use on our Lotus model. It is made by Lightpro
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Congratulations, Paul! Hope you had fun developing this idea. I'm glad you did it. New Origami animal in the stable!
Have you come to any firm decisions about production colours yet?
The rack is fine as far as it goes, (useful for some people) but I hope that you put out plenty of photos featuring the bike without the rack on it. It's a very pretty machine and also sleek and fast. The rack detracts from its good looks and appeal as a speedy bike. My own bias says a Swift is a fast road bike substitute that goes anywhere I want it to, be it me pedalling it up a mountain or around town or it folded in the boot of a car or tucked with the luggage under a bus. The world of folding bikes needs an affordable answer to the expensive Pocket Rockets, Moultons and Tyrells. The Swift is the one. It's a better bike than all of those. But that's just my opinion.
Have you come to any firm decisions about production colours yet?
The rack is fine as far as it goes, (useful for some people) but I hope that you put out plenty of photos featuring the bike without the rack on it. It's a very pretty machine and also sleek and fast. The rack detracts from its good looks and appeal as a speedy bike. My own bias says a Swift is a fast road bike substitute that goes anywhere I want it to, be it me pedalling it up a mountain or around town or it folded in the boot of a car or tucked with the luggage under a bus. The world of folding bikes needs an affordable answer to the expensive Pocket Rockets, Moultons and Tyrells. The Swift is the one. It's a better bike than all of those. But that's just my opinion.
I will get some photos without the rack.
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Yes, the idea was to have the rack high enough to keep panniers out of the way of pedaling. Because of the fold-under style, the higher rack doesn't significantly increase the folded size.
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I'm wondering if the wheels were black for all trims, they would work well and look consistent. Plus make production easier across all the trims.
For the all black, if the Origami logo and minor highlights were in a red, that might pop. Possible alternative with the rear arms in a matching red. Two tone. That could convey the speed of this machine.
Or you could go stealth with gloss dark grey lettering over the matte black.
I like the simplicity of colors. It gives owners the chance to customize. I'm wondering if it would be possible to replace the front stem with a folding stem from Dahon or Tern on our own to reduce the fold but am guessing it would affect the feel of the ride.
For the all black, if the Origami logo and minor highlights were in a red, that might pop. Possible alternative with the rear arms in a matching red. Two tone. That could convey the speed of this machine.
Or you could go stealth with gloss dark grey lettering over the matte black.
I like the simplicity of colors. It gives owners the chance to customize. I'm wondering if it would be possible to replace the front stem with a folding stem from Dahon or Tern on our own to reduce the fold but am guessing it would affect the feel of the ride.