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Need help picking 700 x 40c tires for Jamis Renegade

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Old 08-07-17, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Caliwild
Thanks... that makes sense. I contacted Jamis directly and here's what they said: "We haven’t had any feedback about 40c tires not fitting the Renegade Exploit - the frame/fork should clear up to a 42 (and even650x47). Most of us at Jamis use the Clement X’Plor MSO 700x40 on the bike, but there are a number of excellent tires out there in that size right now."


Sorry for all the questions... One more: Would you go with the Compass Barlow Pass or the Clement X'Plor MSO? I know, completely different tread but trying to figure out this new world of gravel/dirt!

I already told you that 42s would fit :/

You haven’t said if you’re planning to run tubeless or not. That could make a difference.
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Originally Posted by shoota
Not the same ones though.
Not tubeless but I already have some and like them.
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Continental Speed Rides. Excellent value too. They run a bit narrower than the nominal 700x42, closer to 38. Love 'em on chip seal and dry crushed limestone trails.
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Not to be"that guy," but when you can get a great tire like the G-one for $30-40, you don't need to agonize over your decision like you are buying a new bike. Grab some tires and ride then; see where they have limitations; and repeat as needed until you decide that N+1 biked is the answer. Then, you can do some proper agonizing again.
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I've got about 2400mi on my Schwalbe G-Ones. 40mm (about 42mm actual) set up tubeless. The front tire still has very fresh looking tread, but the center knobs in the rear are just about gone. The rear tire is still rideable though. These tires have been outstanding on pretty much every surface (smooth pavement, crappy pavement, dirt, gravel, light mud). Have yet to experience a puncture (or it sealed quickly I never noticed). I'd definitely put them on the recommended list for sure. They're comfy, fast, and I can't complain about the wear.
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Originally Posted by ATPAH
Not to be"that guy," but when you can get a great tire like the G-one for $30-40, you don't need to agonize over your decision like you are buying a new bike. Grab some tires and ride then; see where they have limitations; and repeat as needed until you decide that N+1 biked is the answer. Then, you can do some proper agonizing again.
You're not wrong..

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I've got about 2400mi on my Schwalbe G-Ones. 40mm (about 42mm actual) set up tubeless. The front tire still has very fresh looking tread, but the center knobs in the rear are just about gone. The rear tire is still rideable though. These tires have been outstanding on pretty much every surface (smooth pavement, crappy pavement, dirt, gravel, light mud). Have yet to experience a puncture (or it sealed quickly I never noticed). I'd definitely put them on the recommended list for sure. They're comfy, fast, and I can't complain about the wear.
Good to know about the sizing. I wonder if the 35mm and 38mm stretch out a little too?
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got a picture of the dirt?
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got a picture of the dirt?
No, but I guess it's mostly like this: https://kundaliniandcelltowers.com/p2...ruck-trail.jpg
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You specifically mentioned the Nano. I have a set but replaced them with a set of SpeedRides. The only advantage I noticed with the Nano has over the SpeedRide (and I assume the similar G-One) is when you hit some slick wet dirt/mud or are doing a steep climb on loose/rough (singletrack trails). In all other cases, road/gravel/loose over hard, etc, I've found the SpeedRide is perfect and smoother rolling. I comes down to the difference of the SpeedRide/G-One file tread design to the more aggressive Nano MTB design. More road/hard pack and dryer surfaces = file thread. More soft/mud/thick = Nano. For reference, I have 23 inside rims and the 42 Speedride is 38.5mm and the 40 Nano is right about 39.

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Are you going to run tubeless or not?
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Originally Posted by shoota
Are you going to run tubeless or not?
Sheesh... why all the aggression? First you give me crap for buying a bike at less than full retail, then you say "I already told you that" when I mentioned I spoke with Jamis about tires and max capacity... Back off please. And have a little respect. I'm pretty sure I can rip into you for something you're ignorant about, but I thought this forum was about helping people who have questions. Anyway, in case other people wanting to help me would like to know, no, I do not plan on running tubeless...
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Originally Posted by Caliwild
Sheesh... why all the aggression? First you give me crap for buying a bike at less than full retail, then you say "I already told you that" when I mentioned I spoke with Jamis about tires and max capacity... Back off please. And have a little respect. I'm pretty sure I can rip into you for something you're ignorant about, but I thought this forum was about helping people who have questions. Anyway, in case other people wanting to help me would like to know, no, I do not plan on running tubeless...
Hmm anyway.

I vote you use the stock tires then. I mean why not? They are perfect for what you are going to ride and you already have them. See how you like them and then decide to keep them or look for something else.
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I randomly found brand new Clement X'Plor MSOs on craigslist in the 40c size for $40 for the pair. At that price, it's worth a try. I'll just give the 36s to my buddy. Figured I can run lower PSI on the bigger tire. Thanks for all the advice...
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Damn that's a good deal. Good find
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Damn that's a good deal. Good find
Thanks. Brand new in package too...
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