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The cost of gas has never been a motivating factor for me to ride and admit I am kind of thankful for that. I can afford gas, but I choose to ride.
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Bike ≠ Car ≠ Ped.
3-4 years ago, when gas jumped over $4/gal for the first time, also saw a jump in bike commuters around here. Good thing: more people on bikes; bad thing: more friggin' noobs who had no idea what to do on a bike since the last time they rode was when they were 15.
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The only bad I've found in helping him is I'm stuck working on a huffy stalker that's been setting under a tree on a farm for 10 years. I tried to talk him into a better bike but he loves this thing and the size is perfect fit for him.
The good is he's riding and making his son ride to school (riding with him) then he's going on a little ride after the kid is at school and rides a bit more each week.
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When gas prices go up, as they're going up right now, we are prepared to take alternative transportation such as bycycling. For those who aren't "hardcore" everyday commuters (like me), it'll be easy to jump on a bike without having to acclimate our body and mind to riding to work or wherever. I can imagine it might be difficult or even stressful for those who have never or rarely ridden a bike or don't have a bike. I noticed today that the cheapest grade is now over $4.
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Unfortunately (or, fortunately maybe) I am getting closer to being forced to ride to work. I like riding to work, so, that isn't such a huge problem but I just don't like the feeling of being forced to do so. My income was 20% less last year than the year before and this year isn't looking much better. My house payment went up 11% this month (in a declining housing market, my county government decided my house was now worth a third more this year than last year meaning higher taxes), phone/internet bill went up about 40% last month plus groceries are getting outrageous. I see rising gas prices putting another nail in the economic coffin, so, I am trying to ready myself by riding more and cutting my outlay of cash (Monday I will be having phone/internet service disconnected). Hope and Change isn't working out so well for me.
From the wall street journal in 2008 from Obama's Energy Secretary to be Steven Chu
https://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB...307499791.html
Mr. Chu has called for gradually ramping up gasoline taxes over 15 years to coax consumers into buying more-efficient cars and living in neighborhoods closer to work. "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe," Mr. Chu, who directs the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal in September.
I remeber as a kid hearing my dad pitching a fit for the better part of an hour after filling the tank while out on a family vacation because it was over 50 cents a gallon. My family can no longer afford the fuel needed to go camping like I did as a kid. I make more now then my Dad ever did. Unfortunately I have half to show for it because everything cost triple what it did back then.
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Recently changed jobs, so now I work downtown. I asked if there was a good place to store my bike when I commute in to work, that would be safe for both my bike and the other employees.
They said no one had asked about bikes, just where they could park their motorcycles and cars.
They asked what was needed and have followed through. I was pleasantly surprised at the response.
Maybe some more will join in on the fun.
They said no one had asked about bikes, just where they could park their motorcycles and cars.
They asked what was needed and have followed through. I was pleasantly surprised at the response.
Maybe some more will join in on the fun.
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Recently changed jobs, so now I work downtown. I asked if there was a good place to store my bike when I commute in to work, that would be safe for both my bike and the other employees.
They said no one had asked about bikes, just where they could park their motorcycles and cars.
They asked what was needed and have followed through. I was pleasantly surprised at the response.
Maybe some more will join in on the fun.
They said no one had asked about bikes, just where they could park their motorcycles and cars.
They asked what was needed and have followed through. I was pleasantly surprised at the response.
Maybe some more will join in on the fun.
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I would agree. I do wish employers had an incentive to have their workers take other forms of transportation but perhaps thats in the future.
For me, I love saving the gas money but I also love not being restricted to my truck. I mean I get to enjoy 110 minutes of pure fun outside on my bike. I love it. Peaceful and the exercise on my body is great. Love the feeling of packing in and packing out what I brought into work.
For me, I love saving the gas money but I also love not being restricted to my truck. I mean I get to enjoy 110 minutes of pure fun outside on my bike. I love it. Peaceful and the exercise on my body is great. Love the feeling of packing in and packing out what I brought into work.
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As for the other employees, seems interest is growing. Get asked a lot of questions. ( hard sometimes since I'm a noob at it too! )
Think it helps when they see the bike ( older Trek 4900 converted ), ridden by the 'old grey haired' guy in normal looking clothes.
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With the increasing gas prices, and the fact that much of my travels are rather close by, I just ride.
I still drive to work for now, but I only work 7 days every two weeks. If all I do is drive to work, that is one tank every two weeks, not too bad. I may work up and try riding one weekend to work. I would still need to get a few more items for my bicycle before I undertake that endeavor.
I still drive to work for now, but I only work 7 days every two weeks. If all I do is drive to work, that is one tank every two weeks, not too bad. I may work up and try riding one weekend to work. I would still need to get a few more items for my bicycle before I undertake that endeavor.
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If Im not in the mood or theres lots of snow like now
then I drive my gas guzzlin 15 m.p.g. V8 4x4 400 h.p. truck and I enjoy it also
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This is as planned.
From the wall street journal in 2008 from Obama's Energy Secretary to be Steven Chu
https://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB...307499791.html
Mr. Chu has called for gradually ramping up gasoline taxes over 15 years to coax consumers into buying more-efficient cars and living in neighborhoods closer to work. "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe," Mr. Chu, who directs the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal in September.
From the wall street journal in 2008 from Obama's Energy Secretary to be Steven Chu
https://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB...307499791.html
Mr. Chu has called for gradually ramping up gasoline taxes over 15 years to coax consumers into buying more-efficient cars and living in neighborhoods closer to work. "Somehow we have to figure out how to boost the price of gasoline to the levels in Europe," Mr. Chu, who directs the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California, said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal in September.
Not to derail this thread into P&R - mods, please, accept my apology upfront - current administration gives me creeps.
I started commuting to keep middle age spread at bay - that was my CHOICE. I started commuting to flip my finger (metaphorically) at people flying occupied aircraft into occupied buildings - that was my CHOICE. Now government is trying to force my hand further and does it so crudely (lack of refinement also annoys me here)!
There is a difference between choices we have and choices we have to make.
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I think you mistook my meaning.
Gas prices being higher is what I commented on being "planned". Chu is this administration secretary of energy. He did make that comment before the administration took over and fuel prices are more then double now since he made that comment.
If your good with higher prices for everything you buy as a result of this....fine. I'm not. I burn next to no fuel compared to avg American and it has had a huge effect in my cost of living and supporting my family.
Gas prices being higher is what I commented on being "planned". Chu is this administration secretary of energy. He did make that comment before the administration took over and fuel prices are more then double now since he made that comment.
If your good with higher prices for everything you buy as a result of this....fine. I'm not. I burn next to no fuel compared to avg American and it has had a huge effect in my cost of living and supporting my family.
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I think you mistook my meaning.
Gas prices being higher is what I commented on being "planned". Chu is this administration secretary of energy. He did make that comment before the administration took over and fuel prices are more then double now since he made that comment.
If your good with higher prices for everything you buy as a result of this....fine. I'm not. I burn next to no fuel compared to avg American and it has had a huge effect in my cost of living and supporting my family.
Gas prices being higher is what I commented on being "planned". Chu is this administration secretary of energy. He did make that comment before the administration took over and fuel prices are more then double now since he made that comment.
If your good with higher prices for everything you buy as a result of this....fine. I'm not. I burn next to no fuel compared to avg American and it has had a huge effect in my cost of living and supporting my family.
I'm not and that is because in large part we Disabled Vets haven't had a cost of living increase in I don't know how many years. Yet, as I am sure we all know the cost of living keeps going up year-after-year.
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Excellent question. I guess I'm spending an extra 1 - 2 hours a day (depending on where I work) commuting, after subtracting the time I would have to spend going running after work when I drive. I've known for the last 20 years that my commute was too long (over an hour each way driving) but I live on 32 acres in the woods that I'm not willing to leave but which, so far, can't support me financially.
I, on the other hand, get exercise that I would otherwise not (lazy!), and don't have to pay for expensive parking. I only spend 40 minutes a day on the bike--driving would save me maybe 15-20 minutes in total, so even if I did use that time for exercise it wouldn't be worth it.
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I can afford gasoline too, but it's just the thought of our local oil cartel charging 30 cents a gallon over other communities that are just couple of hours in driving away that gives me more motivation to ride.
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Recently changed jobs, so now I work downtown. I asked if there was a good place to store my bike when I commute in to work, that would be safe for both my bike and the other employees.
They said no one had asked about bikes, just where they could park their motorcycles and cars.
They asked what was needed and have followed through. I was pleasantly surprised at the response.
Maybe some more will join in on the fun.
They said no one had asked about bikes, just where they could park their motorcycles and cars.
They asked what was needed and have followed through. I was pleasantly surprised at the response.
Maybe some more will join in on the fun.
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Same for me. For a commute of 3 mi, to me, it doesn't make any sense to drive since I'm there in 20 minutes either way. In certain sections of my commute, I am faster than cars even though I take a detour into MUPs that add about 1/2 mi to the trip and I travel slower on the MUP.
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id say i have saved greatly. i went from a 10mpg 350+hp street car i built when gas was cheap to a 70+mpg moped to a bike. i still use the moped once in a while for fun and to keep the engine going but 90% of the time i ride a bike and 9.9% i walk.
sence getting rid of my car ive only spent around $50 on gas and thats in over a year.
most people i know spend $50 a week (or two) in gas.
i wish more business and emploiers would be more willing to accomidate bicycles but a last they are not.
on a funny note i do sometimes pay a parking garage to lock my bike to there rack thats both video servalence and the booth worker can see the racks. i only do this if im on a bike ive spent more on and have to run down town for some reason.
sence getting rid of my car ive only spent around $50 on gas and thats in over a year.
most people i know spend $50 a week (or two) in gas.
i wish more business and emploiers would be more willing to accomidate bicycles but a last they are not.
on a funny note i do sometimes pay a parking garage to lock my bike to there rack thats both video servalence and the booth worker can see the racks. i only do this if im on a bike ive spent more on and have to run down town for some reason.
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This also gives me a bit more motivation as a few of us at work have a team. It has gone national this year if anyone is interested.
https://www.endomondo.com/campaign/national/
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I think you mistook my meaning.
Gas prices being higher is what I commented on being "planned". Chu is this administration secretary of energy. He did make that comment before the administration took over and fuel prices are more then double now since he made that comment.
If your good with higher prices for everything you buy as a result of this....fine. I'm not. I burn next to no fuel compared to avg American and it has had a huge effect in my cost of living and supporting my family.
Gas prices being higher is what I commented on being "planned". Chu is this administration secretary of energy. He did make that comment before the administration took over and fuel prices are more then double now since he made that comment.
If your good with higher prices for everything you buy as a result of this....fine. I'm not. I burn next to no fuel compared to avg American and it has had a huge effect in my cost of living and supporting my family.
I ride because I want to, not because I have to. And I do not want to be forced to ride because I have to choose between dinner or tank of gas in the bright future our government "planned" for us. Every forced choice strips away a bit of my dignity. Especially when my government "planned" for this.
Side note: I also have very little patience for tree-huggers babbling about "carbon footprint". By the nature of my professional training I do my part to save Mother Earth for a living, at my desk, 9 to 5, year-round.
As far as Dr. Chu is concerned, the timing of his statement is largely irrelevant. His impressive credentials notwithstanding, his mindset meshes perfectly with current Oval Office occupant's agenda. And rather heavy hand with which this agenda is administered, shoved down our throats, really.
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Jsdavis, I didn't really ask for much, they asked some questions, and we went from there.
We now have a storage room for bikes. They added some old lockers for us to store jackets, tubes, pumps, etc. so you didn't have to haul that stuff up to your personal lockers. As stated, they wanted to know what was needed and seem to be going that extra step.
Right now, only two of us use it, but hope the trend grows. ( one of the reasons I'm glad I made the move to this company.)
We now have a storage room for bikes. They added some old lockers for us to store jackets, tubes, pumps, etc. so you didn't have to haul that stuff up to your personal lockers. As stated, they wanted to know what was needed and seem to be going that extra step.
Right now, only two of us use it, but hope the trend grows. ( one of the reasons I'm glad I made the move to this company.)