Your Favorite Downtube Shifters. Post some pics
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I dont think I have to reach much at all to shift. A few times while I was in the drops I accidently got the tire or spokes
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I'm not making it up. A 51cm frame is not the same as a 13/16 scale 63cm frame.
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Simplex/Mavic/Spidel retrofrictions are my favorite, but with the 'pro' modification: a simple bottle cage bolt to replace that awful screw. Hard to see I have to admit, but its there.
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I only have experience with Campy and Suntour Power Shifters, once their properly adjusted, I'd say they're about the same.
But, I'd love to try some of the various ones I see in this thread.
Here's a few pictures of NOS Suntour Power Shifters I picked up on ebay.
Seller had 10 sets (NOS) for $10 each.
In hindsight, I should have bought all 10.
But, I'd love to try some of the various ones I see in this thread.
Here's a few pictures of NOS Suntour Power Shifters I picked up on ebay.
Seller had 10 sets (NOS) for $10 each.
In hindsight, I should have bought all 10.
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Great pics in this thread!
Great pics in this thread!
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Based purely on aesthetics, I like the Shimano 600 Arabesque levers shown in the orginal post. I had a bike with that group years ago and always liked the way they looked and felt.
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Here's a pic of the beautiful friction-only (non-ratcheting) Superbe levers I have on my girlfiriend's Atala build (currently stored 5000km away), certainly my favourite to look at, and perfectly functional:
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Unworthy1 wrote:
"...I swear there's a SunTour DT lever with a very compact ratchet mech that looks like one of their stylish Superbes, but I can't find it in Velobase...must be very rare or I imagined it."
You're right, those were the trim-looking Suntour Sprint levers that had the very fine-tooth ratchet in them. I bought a pair back in 1985 or so from Nashbar for my Cannondale R300.
True Retrofriction levers use a spring-wrap clutch instead of a ratchet, so there's no friction adjustment at all.
The beauty of that is that the positioning is infinite (no click-stops at all), for better feel and greater resolution and more-precise movement.
Shimano made perhaps THE first, true Retrofriction lever in the early 1970's!
They called it Unishift. Rather long and plain-looking, but with rubber tips, and delivers race-quality actuation just like Simplex's version.
Shown in foreground:
Shimano also made the "beer tap handles" in the VERY early 1970's that I saved for 15 years(!!!) before finally installing them last weekend on my 1972 American-Eagle / Nishiki Kokusai:
"...I swear there's a SunTour DT lever with a very compact ratchet mech that looks like one of their stylish Superbes, but I can't find it in Velobase...must be very rare or I imagined it."
You're right, those were the trim-looking Suntour Sprint levers that had the very fine-tooth ratchet in them. I bought a pair back in 1985 or so from Nashbar for my Cannondale R300.
True Retrofriction levers use a spring-wrap clutch instead of a ratchet, so there's no friction adjustment at all.
The beauty of that is that the positioning is infinite (no click-stops at all), for better feel and greater resolution and more-precise movement.
Shimano made perhaps THE first, true Retrofriction lever in the early 1970's!
They called it Unishift. Rather long and plain-looking, but with rubber tips, and delivers race-quality actuation just like Simplex's version.
Shown in foreground:
Shimano also made the "beer tap handles" in the VERY early 1970's that I saved for 15 years(!!!) before finally installing them last weekend on my 1972 American-Eagle / Nishiki Kokusai:
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Nothing like the Dura-Ace surface finish. And what snap those have!
Thirdgenbird wrote: "I need more pictures of the beer tap levers. Those look great."
Only too happy to oblige. I got this new (used) Fuji A400 digital camera on Ebay (received last night). Payed $10 plus $5.65 shipping.
Thirdgenbird wrote: "I need more pictures of the beer tap levers. Those look great."
Only too happy to oblige. I got this new (used) Fuji A400 digital camera on Ebay (received last night). Payed $10 plus $5.65 shipping.
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Hi all! (first post)
I have an unidentified frame with these Shimano downtube shifters. There is something beautiful about them, I love them so. If anyone can ID them I would be grateful, as I have the almost complete group and would like to make it more complete. Also might assist me in identifying the frame.
I have an unidentified frame with these Shimano downtube shifters. There is something beautiful about them, I love them so. If anyone can ID them I would be grateful, as I have the almost complete group and would like to make it more complete. Also might assist me in identifying the frame.
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+1 for both appearance and function on the Simplex retrofriction levers. But these Zeus retrofrictions ain't bad either, and considerably harder to come by:
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I only have experience with Campy and Suntour Power Shifters, once their properly adjusted, I'd say they're about the same.
But, I'd love to try some of the various ones I see in this thread.
Here's a few pictures of NOS Suntour Power Shifters I picked up on ebay.
Seller had 10 sets (NOS) for $10 each.
In hindsight, I should have bought all 10.
But, I'd love to try some of the various ones I see in this thread.
Here's a few pictures of NOS Suntour Power Shifters I picked up on ebay.
Seller had 10 sets (NOS) for $10 each.
In hindsight, I should have bought all 10.
BTW, I attribute the success of my Sequoia's 8-of-9-on-7 gearing on the precision and feel of the Power Shifters. I really like 'em.
I'd like to hear more about the Shimano Unishift and Shimano SLA400 Light Action types!
Jim
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These are some old SunTour shifters I had sitting nearby, they where last used on my dropped MTB project but I recently stripped that frame.
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My faves...
Stupid automatic typo correction feature... title should say "my faves."
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Unworthy1 wrote:
"...I swear there's a SunTour DT lever with a very compact ratchet mech that looks like one of their stylish Superbes, but I can't find it in Velobase...must be very rare or I imagined it."
You're right, those were the trim-looking Suntour Sprint levers that had the very fine-tooth ratchet in them. I bought a pair back in 1985 or so from Nashbar for my Cannondale R300.
True Retrofriction levers use a spring-wrap clutch instead of a ratchet, so there's no friction adjustment at all.
The beauty of that is that the positioning is infinite (no click-stops at all), for better feel and greater resolution and more-precise movement.
Shimano made perhaps THE first, true Retrofriction lever in the early 1970's!
They called it Unishift. Rather long and plain-looking, but with rubber tips, and delivers race-quality actuation just like Simplex's version.
Shown in foreground:
Shimano also made the "beer tap handles" in the VERY early 1970's that I saved for 15 years(!!!) before finally installing them last weekend on my 1972 American-Eagle / Nishiki Kokusai:
"...I swear there's a SunTour DT lever with a very compact ratchet mech that looks like one of their stylish Superbes, but I can't find it in Velobase...must be very rare or I imagined it."
You're right, those were the trim-looking Suntour Sprint levers that had the very fine-tooth ratchet in them. I bought a pair back in 1985 or so from Nashbar for my Cannondale R300.
True Retrofriction levers use a spring-wrap clutch instead of a ratchet, so there's no friction adjustment at all.
The beauty of that is that the positioning is infinite (no click-stops at all), for better feel and greater resolution and more-precise movement.
Shimano made perhaps THE first, true Retrofriction lever in the early 1970's!
They called it Unishift. Rather long and plain-looking, but with rubber tips, and delivers race-quality actuation just like Simplex's version.
Shown in foreground:
Shimano also made the "beer tap handles" in the VERY early 1970's that I saved for 15 years(!!!) before finally installing them last weekend on my 1972 American-Eagle / Nishiki Kokusai:
I'd be interested in the seller, VonCarlos! I am ISO that same deal for Power Shifters. I also like the Sprint version, LD-4850, like I have on my Sequoia. Here's a few pics on my various shifter combos. The classic Campagnolo NR on my Masi and Gitane. Simplex Retrofriction (also a favorite) on my Eisentraut. The Trek gets Suntour Blue Line and the Sequoia with the Power Shifters. My Tesch gets 10-speed STI for it's Dura Ace RD-7402 shifting 9-speed spaced Dura Ace cogs on a 126 OLD.
BTW, I attribute the success of my Sequoia's 8-of-9-on-7 gearing on the precision and feel of the Power Shifters. I really like 'em.
I'd like to hear more about the Shimano Unishift and Shimano SLA400 Light Action types!
Jim
BTW, I attribute the success of my Sequoia's 8-of-9-on-7 gearing on the precision and feel of the Power Shifters. I really like 'em.
I'd like to hear more about the Shimano Unishift and Shimano SLA400 Light Action types!
Jim
For what it's worth, the two types of ratcheting Suntour levers (Sprint and Power Shifters) are still available as NOS through Bikestash.
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Those beer tap shifters are awesome! Never seen anything like 'em.
I'm partial to Simplex retrofriction shifters (as are many others, of course). I also like how these DA shifters turned out after I stripped, polished & filled them.
I'm partial to Simplex retrofriction shifters (as are many others, of course). I also like how these DA shifters turned out after I stripped, polished & filled them.
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