Mountain Lion
#76
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, East bay
Posts: 7,783
Bikes: Miyata 618 GT, Marinoni, Kestral 200 2002 Trek 5200, KHS Flite, Koga Miyata, Schwinn Spitfire 5, Mondia Special, Univega Alpina, Miyata team Ti, Santa Cruz Highball
Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1644 Post(s)
Liked 2,756 Times
in
1,280 Posts
Had a Yorkie mix that would sneek in stuff. Gophers, snake and the best, a bird. Took us a while to case that one down.
#77
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,593
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5234 Post(s)
Liked 3,609 Times
in
2,357 Posts
#78
Firm but gentle
My friend's cat brought inside a medium sized owl one time, he said it didn't appear injured. He got a large London Fog type overcoat and captured it, got it out the door and off it flew.
#80
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 198
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
If it comes down to a wrestling match, thumb in the eye has worked (gruesome, but if something is out to kill you, perhaps excusable...). So has arm down the throat.
#81
Banned.
#82
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,086
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 441 Post(s)
Liked 268 Times
in
164 Posts
man kills mountain lion with bare hands
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8764821.html
thankful to live on east coast although I think lions will eventually move east
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8764821.html
thankful to live on east coast although I think lions will eventually move east
#84
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,593
Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0
Mentioned: 112 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5234 Post(s)
Liked 3,609 Times
in
2,357 Posts
that link was a mess on my phone but worked fine on office computer. absolutely fascinating story. he has some good advice at the end
#85
Veteran, Pacifist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Seattle area
Posts: 13,430
Bikes: Bikes??? Thought this was social media?!?
Mentioned: 284 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3949 Post(s)
Liked 4,956 Times
in
2,283 Posts
Bobcats and a couple of bears in the forest around me. Cougar Mt. east of Seattle.
No reports of attacks on humans, but a bear came up on our deck (10' above back yard) to check out a birdfeeder; scared the pee-pee out of my wife when she went to the (closed) sliding glass door to determine the source of noise and was face to face with a black bear as she flipped on the outside light. The bear was terrified, too.
I was a Wilderness Ranger for USFS for 5 summers - 4 days/wk backpacking on the western side of the Cascades. Never saw a mt lion or cougar or bobcat or bear. Only the very occasional deer or elk. Humans are loud and stinky, 4 legged critters almost always avoid us.
No reports of attacks on humans, but a bear came up on our deck (10' above back yard) to check out a birdfeeder; scared the pee-pee out of my wife when she went to the (closed) sliding glass door to determine the source of noise and was face to face with a black bear as she flipped on the outside light. The bear was terrified, too.
I was a Wilderness Ranger for USFS for 5 summers - 4 days/wk backpacking on the western side of the Cascades. Never saw a mt lion or cougar or bobcat or bear. Only the very occasional deer or elk. Humans are loud and stinky, 4 legged critters almost always avoid us.
__________________
Vintage, modern, e-road. It is a big cycling universe.
Vintage, modern, e-road. It is a big cycling universe.
Last edited by Wildwood; 02-15-19 at 10:50 AM.
#86
☢
I think this now makes the jogger a warrior. Even though his original intent was simply to go out for a run.
#87
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,673
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18596 Post(s)
Liked 16,100 Times
in
7,560 Posts
True.
In 2017 I was bike touring across Pennsylvania. The second night I stayed in a private campground on the edge of the Allegheny National Forest, which is know to have a bear or two or a lot. There were signs at the campground mentioning bear visits and prohibiting people from leave trash outside their trailers. There was a mural of a bear on one of two big dumpsters and the words "Bettum's Bear Buffet." (The place is called Bettum's Family Campground.) Out of caution, I stored my edibles in the men's room. Early the next morning, before sunrise, I went to retrieve them and toss some papers in the trash. The dumpsters had been raided, and there was a giant pile of bear scat with a large paw print in it. On the way back to my site I saw another pile that was maybe 50' from my tent. Kept alert while making coffee and eating my bagel and cheese breakfast. Packed up to leave, walked my bike on the gravel driveway to the office, which was right near the dumpsters, and leaned the bike against a bench. As I was about to flip on my lights and don the helmet I heard clinking and clanking. Looked over to the dumpsters to see a HUGE black bear walking out from between the two. We were no more than 25' apart. He was easily 500 lbs. Not the way I wanted to start my morning. We started at each other for a few seconds then I slowly started to back away. I guess he figured I wasn't a threat so he ambled off into some tall growth.
I felt bad for the guy and angry at the campground. He's obviously habituated and will likely be killed if he becomes a real nuisance. You can get bear-resistant dumpsters. I have stayed at a state park in NJ that has them because it is in big bear country. (Saw a lone cup there back in June while on tour.) Guess the campground owner was too cheap to spring for some. And mural obviously made light of a situation that can go wrong quickly.
Two days later, while riding the Pine Creek Trail, I saw this little guy from a much safer distance. The noise of my bike on gravel spooked him and he swam across the creek. You can see the ripples in the water. Managed to get a shot of him before he disappeared.
In 2017 I was bike touring across Pennsylvania. The second night I stayed in a private campground on the edge of the Allegheny National Forest, which is know to have a bear or two or a lot. There were signs at the campground mentioning bear visits and prohibiting people from leave trash outside their trailers. There was a mural of a bear on one of two big dumpsters and the words "Bettum's Bear Buffet." (The place is called Bettum's Family Campground.) Out of caution, I stored my edibles in the men's room. Early the next morning, before sunrise, I went to retrieve them and toss some papers in the trash. The dumpsters had been raided, and there was a giant pile of bear scat with a large paw print in it. On the way back to my site I saw another pile that was maybe 50' from my tent. Kept alert while making coffee and eating my bagel and cheese breakfast. Packed up to leave, walked my bike on the gravel driveway to the office, which was right near the dumpsters, and leaned the bike against a bench. As I was about to flip on my lights and don the helmet I heard clinking and clanking. Looked over to the dumpsters to see a HUGE black bear walking out from between the two. We were no more than 25' apart. He was easily 500 lbs. Not the way I wanted to start my morning. We started at each other for a few seconds then I slowly started to back away. I guess he figured I wasn't a threat so he ambled off into some tall growth.
I felt bad for the guy and angry at the campground. He's obviously habituated and will likely be killed if he becomes a real nuisance. You can get bear-resistant dumpsters. I have stayed at a state park in NJ that has them because it is in big bear country. (Saw a lone cup there back in June while on tour.) Guess the campground owner was too cheap to spring for some. And mural obviously made light of a situation that can go wrong quickly.
Two days later, while riding the Pine Creek Trail, I saw this little guy from a much safer distance. The noise of my bike on gravel spooked him and he swam across the creek. You can see the ripples in the water. Managed to get a shot of him before he disappeared.
#88
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 200
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 107 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 22 Times
in
14 Posts
Some people are calling him "the King of the North", a GOT reference. Turns out it was a juvenile 50 pound lion. Lucky it was not an adult, although there are cases where people have fought off and escaped from adult lions. They captured two other "very hungry" juveniles in the same area, possibly litter mates. Perhaps it was extreme hunger that drove this lion to attack the runner.
#89
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 198
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
He isn't a particularly big guy. I'm surprised the lion actually died. I would have thought it would have been able to squirm out, or pass out and revive.
Last edited by Bikesplendor; 02-15-19 at 07:15 PM.
#90
☢
He seems pretty nonchalant about the whole thing. I guess it hasn't sunk in that he very well could have been an article in the news, "runner found dead and half eaten by a mountain lion," rather than coming away from the ordeal damaged but alive to make this interview.
A chilling thought to realize that people can still be killed and eaten by wild animals. Especially in the U.S., and in these days and times.
A chilling thought to realize that people can still be killed and eaten by wild animals. Especially in the U.S., and in these days and times.
#92
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 198
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 92 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
The way he describes it clamping down, sinking its teeth in, not releasing no matter what, and then grinding...I defintely wouldn't want that on my neck or throat. Death grip. Lucky it was his wrist.
It's a pitbulls's instinctive tactic as well. Clamp down hard, sink in, don't let go.
Necks and throats are what they usually go for, instinctively. Trachea and spinal chord death clamp.
He's lucky he put his hands and wrists in the way.
It's a pitbulls's instinctive tactic as well. Clamp down hard, sink in, don't let go.
Necks and throats are what they usually go for, instinctively. Trachea and spinal chord death clamp.
He's lucky he put his hands and wrists in the way.
#93
Banned.
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: France
Posts: 1,030
Bikes: Brompton, Time, Bianchi, Jan Janssen, Peugeot
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 598 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
5 Posts
Surely that's fair enough? I mean, surely we stole their habitat first, without so much as a by your leave. I'm also unsure whether mountain lions kill more than humans - are they hunted legally or illegally, for that matter, where you live?
#94
Member
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: New Taipei City
Posts: 29
Bikes: Cannondale BAD BOY 1 (2018)
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
At least most cats kill you first. Bears eat you alive starting with the inner thigh and occasionally chew on your face off piece by piece because your screaming is bothering his dinner.
#96
Trek 500 Kid
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Spokane WA
Posts: 2,562
Bikes: '83 Trek 970 road --- '86 Trek 500 road
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2907 Post(s)
Liked 383 Times
in
308 Posts
He isn't a particularly big guy. I'm surprised the lion actually died. I would have thought it would have been able to squirm out, or pass out and revive.
https://youtu.be/IcvsG1gRbw0
https://youtu.be/IcvsG1gRbw0
Or rake his guts out with it's hind claws
#98
☢
I suspect the encounter was a lot more aggressive than his description implies. Even so, there are a lot of wackos out there that would have been sympathetic to the cat, despite the possibility of serious harm or death to the runner.
#99
What happened?
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Around here somewhere
Posts: 7,927
Bikes: 3 Rollfasts, 3 Schwinns, a Shelby and a Higgins Flightliner in a pear tree!
Mentioned: 57 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1835 Post(s)
Liked 292 Times
in
255 Posts
No way, man...nobody likes kidneys....
__________________
I don't know nothing, and I memorized it in school and got this here paper I'm proud of to show it.
#100
Banned.
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: France
Posts: 1,030
Bikes: Brompton, Time, Bianchi, Jan Janssen, Peugeot
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 598 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times
in
5 Posts
Here's a story with a happy ending : mountain lion rescue