"Elbow Flick" when riding in a Paceline??
05-01-12, 10:23 AM
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I rode with a group in Fredericton who pointed everything. Leaf on road? Gum wrapper? Tree shadow? Point point point. The whole ride was "lookatthat!" Drove me crazy because I was condioned to treat points as being very serious, so the non stop pointing made me jumpy. And on my pulls, when I didn't point, the rest of the ride got cranky with me. They were a great group and very friendly, but the ride wound up being very stressful.
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05-01-12, 10:24 AM
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I don't get bothered by this. I usually just tell the person i'm going to hop in front and let them draft me for a while until they recover.
Agreed. Call out major things, but small things should be avoided by the front rider steering clear of them and having everyone else follow.
The worst is riding with a group that calls EVERYTHING on the way out, and then NOTHING on the way back because they're too tired.
I apparently do this often. I swear to god I try not to.
Maintaining Speed isn't any good, because if we hit the slightest incline, everyone seems to drop back.
Maintaining Effort Level doesn't work either. We hit an incline, i don't perceive a different effort, but i get yelled at for going to fast up the hill.
Oddly enough, I see other people speed up (even out of the saddle) when they're off the front, and not get **** for it.
Too many cooks in the kitchen. This is why i hate paceline work.
Agreed. Call out major things, but small things should be avoided by the front rider steering clear of them and having everyone else follow.
The worst is riding with a group that calls EVERYTHING on the way out, and then NOTHING on the way back because they're too tired.
I apparently do this often. I swear to god I try not to.
Maintaining Speed isn't any good, because if we hit the slightest incline, everyone seems to drop back.
Maintaining Effort Level doesn't work either. We hit an incline, i don't perceive a different effort, but i get yelled at for going to fast up the hill.
Oddly enough, I see other people speed up (even out of the saddle) when they're off the front, and not get **** for it.
Too many cooks in the kitchen. This is why i hate paceline work.
05-01-12, 10:30 AM
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One guy I used to ride / race / train with would do this every time he got to the front. After informing him several times about what he was doing and how it was hurting his teammates as much as the others I finally gave up. During group rides / training rides we just started letting him go off the front every time it was his pull. He eventually figured it out.
05-01-12, 10:30 AM
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I apparently do this often. I swear to god I try not to.
Maintaining Speed isn't any good, because if we hit the slightest incline, everyone seems to drop back.
Maintaining Effort Level doesn't work either. We hit an incline, i don't perceive a different effort, but i get yelled at for going to fast up the hill.
Maintaining Speed isn't any good, because if we hit the slightest incline, everyone seems to drop back.
Maintaining Effort Level doesn't work either. We hit an incline, i don't perceive a different effort, but i get yelled at for going to fast up the hill.
05-01-12, 10:31 AM
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All along I thought the elbow flick was to bicycling what the under stall toe tap was to politicians. I think I owe a few people an apology.
05-01-12, 10:49 AM
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In training makes non sense but in a race depending on the situation to attack like that works but for example in TT or in my case that i did track and you have to help somebody to win a per points you have to be carefull with the pulls... but again depends on the situation, sometimes per race plan you just wait for the signal and just go trying to cut the herd as much as possible... but those super strong pullers suck, we used to let them go or just put an old rider behind because he was going to control the pace better... agree those pullers sucks.
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The elbow flick is gay? Lewd? A body gesture indicating an openness to sex? A ritual part of taking a crap?
I just don't get it.
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It's not unique, I've met a few other cyclist with no proprioception...but it can be learned, at least to the extent that you can manage your efforts uniformly for paceline riding. Worst case, get a power meter.
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How the hell is this thread 4 pages long? A flick or gesture simply means your pull is done and you aren't just avoiding an obstacle. Is it really that ****ing difficult?
05-01-12, 03:01 PM
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4 pages is nuthin' around here.
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UPS trucks in airport bathrooms, I think.
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