Still not getting the bikepacking thing
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I don't remove the frame bag and if I were in an area where theft was prevalent and or had to lock the bike up outside a hotel (for example) it would be a pita. One reason they work for bike packing is that you usually dont worry about that.
Horses for courses as they say
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This is one of my touring bikes with a combination of bikepacking and traditional touring gear. The front half is bikepacking and the rear is traditional rack and panniers. Works for me.
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So, overall, are you happy you bought it, or not? I definitely want/need to have two easily accessible water bottles when I travel, and I don't wear biking vests with those back pockets for bottles. My dashboard space is also all taken by lights, mp3 player, speaker, etc., so no room for a bottle holder on there..
In this photo, I am mixing two Life WTR and one Smartwater bottle, all are one liter capacity. That size does not come with the flip top lids, I used lids off other bottles.
If you use the regular small size water bottles that are about 22 oz, you need three of those to equal two of my one liter bottles.
But, smaller size frames might not be able to fit those large tall bottles.
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Loading up stuff on your bike that you will need for a few days and then actually going somewhere. Use the best tool, or at least what you have to get the job done for where you are going. Call it what you want touring or bike packing, it is the same thing. I do think some people do go out of their way to apply a specific tag or name to it. The bike and the gear are the tools, not the event.
I'm sure many people have watched Iohan Gueorguiev on youtube but if haven't already he does a lot with full rack and gear and a more scaled back without racks when going light. They both can work, it depends.
I'm sure many people have watched Iohan Gueorguiev on youtube but if haven't already he does a lot with full rack and gear and a more scaled back without racks when going light. They both can work, it depends.
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This is a really good point to consider.
I don't remove the frame bag and if I were in an area where theft was prevalent and or had to lock the bike up outside a hotel (for example) it would be a pita. One reason they work for bike packing is that you usually dont worry about that.
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I don't remove the frame bag and if I were in an area where theft was prevalent and or had to lock the bike up outside a hotel (for example) it would be a pita. One reason they work for bike packing is that you usually dont worry about that.
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But mountain biking, if you do not need anything out of the bag when you are in the tent, no reason to take the bag off the bike.
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Why don't they just build a locking storage space into the triangle of the frame?
Anyway, we seem to have hijacked this thread with another discussion about bags, haven't we?
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I like that wine bike frame bag (box?). It reminds me of the Swiss Army bikes with a similar compartment. I could see that being a somewhat functional piece of kit for a commuter or rinko type bike that didn't need to be locked up. Looks clean without doodads hanging off. In the compartment could be tools, tube, pump, lock for quick stops, rain poncho and even a storage battery to power lights or cellphone/gps - all with their specific spots. Just stays with the bike and always available.
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I like that wine bike frame bag (box?). It reminds me of the Swiss Army bikes with a similar compartment. I could see that being a somewhat functional piece of kit for a commuter or rinko type bike that didn't need to be locked up. Looks clean without doodads hanging off. In the compartment could be tools, tube, pump, lock for quick stops, rain poncho and even a storage battery to power lights or cellphone/gps - all with their specific spots. Just stays with the bike and always available.
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So, in conclusion with a firm understanding. Bikepacking can be defined as:
The type of bike you ride
and/or
the bags one mounts on their bike
and/or
the terrain one rides
and/or
where one sleeps
and/or
how much gear is carried
and/or
if one has the proper clothing, facial hair and tattoos?
Ok, I made that last one up. No one needs to bite on that one
The type of bike you ride
and/or
the bags one mounts on their bike
and/or
the terrain one rides
and/or
where one sleeps
and/or
how much gear is carried
and/or
if one has the proper clothing, facial hair and tattoos?
Ok, I made that last one up. No one needs to bite on that one
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When I want to learn more about a subject I go to the source.
So simple: Go look on bikepacking.com and see what they say about the main thing they promote https://bikepacking.com/
Here's the first two paragraphs under bikepacking 101 What is Bike Packing?:
Simply put, bikepacking is the synthesis of mountain biking and minimalist camping. It evokes the freedom of multi-day backcountry hiking, but with the range and thrill of riding a mountain bike. It’s about exploring places less traveled, both near and far, via singletrack trails, gravel, and abandoned dirt roads, carrying only essential gear. Ride, eat, sleep, repeat, enjoy!
A common misconception is that bikepacking requires a small fortune to fully appreciate: the perfect bike, custom bags, and all the latest ultralight camping gear. While investing in quality gear is never a bad idea, it’s certainly not a necessity to get you up and running. Start by using what you own and picking a short (20-50 miles) overnight route near home. Discover what you really need through experience. Check out this Advice for New Bikepackers from five experienced riders.
So simple: Go look on bikepacking.com and see what they say about the main thing they promote https://bikepacking.com/
Here's the first two paragraphs under bikepacking 101 What is Bike Packing?:
Simply put, bikepacking is the synthesis of mountain biking and minimalist camping. It evokes the freedom of multi-day backcountry hiking, but with the range and thrill of riding a mountain bike. It’s about exploring places less traveled, both near and far, via singletrack trails, gravel, and abandoned dirt roads, carrying only essential gear. Ride, eat, sleep, repeat, enjoy!
A common misconception is that bikepacking requires a small fortune to fully appreciate: the perfect bike, custom bags, and all the latest ultralight camping gear. While investing in quality gear is never a bad idea, it’s certainly not a necessity to get you up and running. Start by using what you own and picking a short (20-50 miles) overnight route near home. Discover what you really need through experience. Check out this Advice for New Bikepackers from five experienced riders.
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I consider bike touring to be on paved surfaces. I consider bikepacking to include but not limited to unpaved trails and backcountry terrain. Let’s not forget that defining a specific sub category opens up another market for specialized category specific merchandise to sell.
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So if I start a day on a paved road into Avery, ID, jump on the unpaved former Milwaukee Road right of way to the unpaved Route of the Hiawatha Trail then an unpaved Forest Service road to the unpaved NorPac Trail and then onto I-90 to the paved Trail of the Coeur d'Allenes I have gone from bike touring to bikepacking back to bike touring all in one day?
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So if I start a day on a paved road into Avery, ID, jump on the unpaved former Milwaukee Road right of way to the unpaved Route of the Hiawatha Trail then an unpaved Forest Service road to the unpaved NorPac Trail and then onto I-90 to the paved Trail of the Coeur d'Allenes I have gone from bike touring to bikepacking back to bike touring all in one day?
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So, in conclusion with a firm understanding. Bikepacking can be defined as:
The type of bike you ride
and/or
the bags one mounts on their bike
and/or
the terrain one rides
and/or
where one sleeps
and/or
how much gear is carried
and/or
if one has the proper clothing, facial hair and tattoos?
Ok, I made that last one up. No one needs to bite on that one
The type of bike you ride
and/or
the bags one mounts on their bike
and/or
the terrain one rides
and/or
where one sleeps
and/or
how much gear is carried
and/or
if one has the proper clothing, facial hair and tattoos?
Ok, I made that last one up. No one needs to bite on that one
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Depends on where you are biking. First, I never take the bike bags into a tent. Although I believe that bears are mythical creatures...I've never seen one in the wild despite 40 years of tromping around in the woods...I'd rather not risk encountering one, just in case. And, just in case bears are real, I either hang my bags from a tree or put them in bear boxes if the campground has them. It's far easier to do so with panniers than with bikepacking gear.
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She wonderfully describes the different experience of traveling in more isolated territory, but at the same time, she really did encapsulate the whole traveling by bike experience, the adventure, the quiet, experiencing the terrain and nature thing, that wonderful mix of isolation and human contact thing.
i really liked also how she emphasized how in more isolated areas, you've got way more responsibility of dealing with problems, managing distances, water, food, and not messing up and hurting yourself.
This last part certainly touches on how quote backpacking unquote clearly is a popular thing, but just as with hiking or whatever in isolated areas, folks who have no experience with stuff, whether dealing with any mechanical stuff or simply directional self awareness, have more need to be responsible about this and that...
Again, really great piece, even to an old guy probably old enough to be her dad.
PS, that shot of the sandals---holy kajeepers! Yup, tubeless certainly has its place...
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