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Have you ever cached water for a ride?

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Old 09-09-16, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
You're looking toward the Thunder Arm of Diablo Lake on State Route 20 - the North Cascades Highway. That's my favorite drive up campground. I never bring much water over there because it's so abundant.
Heh.

When I took a photo of Lake Wenatchee on my recent Cascades mini-tour, I consciously realized at the time that it was similar to what you posted here earlier this year.

Apparently I was also duplicating a Colonial Creek Campground photo you'd taken.

Forgive the Fredly water bottles.
This in response to a photo where I have a 2L bottle bungee-corded to the handlebars?

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Old 09-09-16, 03:58 PM
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In addition to the 2 in the rear, you can add another bottle to the frame by getting this thing: Minoura BH-100S Bottle Cage Mount 22.0 - 29.0mm Clamp | Bikewagon Assuming you have the space of course.

Also you can get handlebar bags with netted water bottle holders on each side.

You can get larger 24 ounce bottle to.

The Camelback is a good idea, but I would just get the smallest one which I think is the Rogue which holds 70 ounces so it's not as heavy on your back.

If you can get at least 3 24 ounce bottles on your bike plus 70 ounces on your back you would be all set, that's about 140 ounces just with those I mentioned, and you could add more with at least two more in a handlebar bag.

The frame pump you have is taking up valuable real estate on your bike, that is where another water bottle usually goes is on the seat tube, so move the pump to the top tube. Then you can mount a third bottle to the bottom of the down tube. So you have plenty of options without going and hiding water.
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Old 09-09-16, 04:08 PM
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I'd just carry the water, a couple bottles in my jersey, and one on the bike. And a few energy bars and a pb&j. Seems like the easiest way to do it to me.
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Old 09-09-16, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by smarkinson
Won't help you know but someone is making a water bottle that fills itself using moisture in the air.
Self-Filling Water Bottle Converts Humid Air into Drinkable H2O

Unfortunately, it can't possibly work at that size and that rate of water collection. It's just another kickstarter / indie gogo project that's bogus.


See:
Is the Fontus Self Filling Water Bottle a Scam? This Evidence Suggests So


To condense that much water via solar powered refrigeration would require way more power than would fit on a bike.

The video rant linked in the story is really great!

I saw a previous video rant that calculated the amount of air needed to draw through the device. Not only is the power way too low, the airflow is way too small.
Here's the video, linked from the comments of the original link above. 50,000 liters of air need to have 100% of it's humidity extracted to make 1 liter of liquid water.

And lower humidity air, cold air, or cloudy days make it even slower.

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Old 09-09-16, 04:53 PM
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Sounds like a lot of work. I'd echo the idea of carrying all the water on you. Two 800mL on the bike, and maybe another 2x500mL disposable bottles in jersey pocket. That's 2600mL, and maybe hydrate well before the ride. Should be enough for 90 miles.
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Originally Posted by mcours2006
Sounds like a lot of work. I'd echo the idea of carrying all the water on you. Two 800mL on the bike, and maybe another 2x500mL disposable bottles in jersey pocket. That's 2600mL, and maybe hydrate well before the ride. Should be enough for 90 miles.
On a hot day of hilly gravel riding, that's nowhere near enough. I did a relatively flat road century on a hot day with that little water recently, I lost ten pounds during the ride. About 6% of my total body mass. It was terrible.

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The frame pump you have is taking up valuable real estate on your bike
I'm not the OP.

As far as my own situation, though: yes, it is. I could move it to the top tube, but it won't seat well there because there's no peg. The pump did come with a velcro strap to "solve" that problem, but I think I lost it... oh well.
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Originally Posted by HTupolev
On a hot day of hilly gravel riding, that's nowhere near enough. I did a relatively flat road century on a hot day with that little water recently, I lost ten pounds during the ride. About 6% of my total body mass. It was terrible.
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Hydration needs vary from individual to individual, time of day, temperature, humidity. The condition under which I ride I tend to not need so much water, but yes, riding 5+ hours in 100+ temperature, you'd need more.

Still, caching is way too much work.
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If some of the streams are not dried up could you use a water bottle with a filter and get enough water that way? Little pricey but we use them on hiking and kayaking trip, Katadyn MyBottle Water.

https://www.rei.com/product/799021/k...water-purifier

I do like the idea of stashing water along the route, I'd never thought you of it.
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Carry a SteriPen. At any stream you can refill and purify, only weighs like a half pound, and would easily fit in a jersey pocket.
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If stashing is no longer an option (though it sounds like it would work if you're willing to do the drive), I find a good accessory to have around the house to use in pinch, is one of these topeak beamracks. Of course with one these you could load up to 4-5 liters of water if you put a bag on it large enough.

EDIT: Sorry, originally linked wrong product on Nashbar that I don't think would work well with a road bike. You'd want one of these instead:

https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/u...e/rp-prod28820

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Never have, but it sounds like a good idea for the ride you have planned. Anything to avoid dehydration on a 90-mile desolate dirt road. I like the idea of using one of those box wine bladders assuming water can be funneled into it. Even better if you could freeze it the night before and stash it in a shady place. Might also mount an extra bottle (from bars, behind saddle, etc.) for the start.

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I'd say go ahead and cache some H2O on your route. A runner friend of mine routinely caches it on her routes. At 8.3454 pounds per gallon, a bunch of water on one's bike will be too heavy and detract from the ride.
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Originally Posted by gsa103
Carry a SteriPen. At any stream you can refill and purify, only weighs like a half pound, and would easily fit in a jersey pocket.
This is exactly what I do. Modern tech is so nice. Once time I hopped a barbed wire fence and filled bottles from a cattle pond.
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