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Old 03-12-23, 08:29 AM
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No guarantees, but I'd go ask around at some of the more C&V oriented bike shops in the area, such as Woody's Cyclery in Middleton, MA or maybe Cambridge Used Bicycle in Cambridge, MA.
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Originally Posted by hihik
Sigh... let's be honest, it's not realistic for a random guy to organize something like that. Put it differently, I wouldn't know how to.
I did just that, and I’m terrible at publicity. I tried to get it started in my local weekday ride, but that failed. I then started a Facebook group where we have a monthly ride. I mentioned it to a few friends and got them to show up. After three years we’re still small, and that’s okay. The FB group has 100+ members, but a small core group that usually show up. Give it a try, you might be surprised.



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Originally Posted by nlerner
I think there’s a wee section of Boston around Cleveland Circle that gets included in the mythical Chestnut Hill.
Yeah.., that's probably about as far as Boston, proper, extends westward. Anyway, Washington St. in West Newton is a good bet for a start to a ride west. Especially, I thought that in honor of Harris Cyclery, 1353 would be a good spot.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
Hmm, I live in Brookline, work in Boston, frequently ride through Newton. Definitely different municipalities.
I'm just wondering how important that is.
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Set a date and a route, publish it here. That's pretty much what people have done. Eventually you'll get a few people to ride with you, make new friends, and act as the core of the regularly scheduled ride. Or not, but it won't just happen on it's own.

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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
I'm just wondering how important that is.
For the people who live in those different places, very important! Everything is local here.
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Oh, and if you want a heavy dose of cycling hipsterism and interesting people with a little C&V mixed in, you could also keep an eye out for the Nutmeg Nor'easter.
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Originally Posted by nlerner
For the people who live in those different places, very important! Everything is local here.
Maybe for some, who, for some reason, feel defensive about being thought of as living in "Boston", but it is not only not-important, in regards to the original post, but impertinent. Let's say you are right: Newton is a separate political entity from Boston. What has that got to do with anything cycling-related?
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
Look in the zip code book at the Post Office for Newton. Then go ahead and look under Boston and you will see the thirteen boroughs of Newton listed.
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Oh. I see. Chestnut Hill is part Newton and part Boston. The Post Office book, I hope, was revised to reflect this.
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Ok, just go ahead and read the first para-graph and get back to us on any findings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chestn..._Massachusetts
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I'll stop be-laboring you with facts. I had four different addresses in Newton. I remember it fondly.
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Maybe for some, who, for some reason, feel defensive about being thought of as living in "Boston", but it is not only not-important, in regards to the original post, but impertinent. Let's say you are right: Newton is a separate political entity from Boston. What has that got to do with anything cycling-related?
Yeah, why keep bringing up Boston-area geography?
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Originally Posted by nlerner
Yeah, why keep bringing up Boston-area geography?
Just answer the question.
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Is it time for cat videos?
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
Just answer the question.
I've lost track of the question--was it why does local geography matter to cycling? If so, I can tell you that cycling infrastructure commitments really vary in the Boston area. Boston, Cambridge, and Somerville are leading the way; Brookline and Newton not so much. I'm on Brookline's Bicycle Advisory Committee, and it's a struggle to advocate in the face of a car-centric town.
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Originally Posted by gugie
Is it time for cat videos?
Cat riding a Rivendell?
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Originally Posted by nlerner
Cat riding a Rivendell?
Oof, now we'll have a 10 pager!
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre


A simple idea: Start where Harris Cyclery used to be and do the Boston Marathon route, so that is about a 50-mile, out-and-back ride. This way, you avoid all the Boston traffic
But not a very good idea, Harris used to be on Rte 15 at an interchange with the Mass Pike, cars speed there. The road surface is full of potholes, and broken concrete. After a couple of miles you come to the Rte 128 interchange, one of the more dangerous places to cycle in Eastern Mass. Wellesley has a lot of traffic on Rte 16. Then on Rte 135 the speed limit is 45mph from the College out to Natick., but the average speed can be 55..The only time the marathon route is safe is when they close it for the race.


However there are some nice routes in Needham, Wellesley, Dover, South Natick and Sherborn. I've met small groups riding vintage bikes there. It isn't as bucolic as it was forty years ago, but it is still nice
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2017 I had a post-French Fender Day Tour of Boston with @nlerner. I'm pretty sure it was 26.2 miles, so there's a marathon route for you.


Riding next to Boston Habah

I have no idea what towns/cities/neighborhoods we rode through. I did learn that Neal likes to stop often for coffee.


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Originally Posted by ironwood
But not a very good idea, Harris used to be on Rte 15 at an interchange with the Mass Pike, cars speed there. The road surface is full of potholes, and broken concrete. After a couple of miles you come to the Rte 128 interchange, one of the more dangerous places to cycle in Eastern Mass. Wellesley has a lot of traffic on Rte 16. Then on Rte 135 the speed limit is 45mph from the College out to Natick., but the average speed can be 55..The only time the marathon route is safe is when they close it for the race.


However there are some nice routes in Needham, Wellesley, Dover, South Natick and Sherborn. I've met small groups riding vintage bikes there. It isn't as bucolic as it was forty years ago, but it is still nice
A year or two before the Marathon bombing (2013, I.e., back when you could), I partook with a group of friends that tradition of cycling the Marathon route Boston to Hopkinton, turning around and coming back to Copley Sq. The wrinkle was that you had to finish at 9 am or the like, so it was a very early start. The way out there was traffic free, but the way back had me wishing I was on different roads. Very chaotic! Checked that one off the bucket list, and once was enough.
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