What's the upgrade you regretted the most?
11-27-16, 12:46 AM
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Going from 3x8 to 3x10 groupset. More expensive, same top and low gear ratio, with a few more gears in between I was good off without.
11-27-16, 02:21 AM
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Bont Vapor shoes online without trying them first.
Kask Vertigo KOM online without trying first.
Speedplay Zero Cr pedals
Enve 3.4 SES Powertap clinchers
The best?
S Works Venge Vias Di2
Specialized S Works Sub 6 shoes
Oakley Jawbreakers x 3
Giro Synthe Helmet
Quark Riken and S Works power meters
Kask Vertigo KOM online without trying first.
Speedplay Zero Cr pedals
Enve 3.4 SES Powertap clinchers
The best?
S Works Venge Vias Di2
Specialized S Works Sub 6 shoes
Oakley Jawbreakers x 3
Giro Synthe Helmet
Quark Riken and S Works power meters
11-27-16, 06:24 AM
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Several Things.
They were flexy. I would have to open the rear caliper completely so they would not rub when climbing. Maybe Powertap lacing issue?
Powertap would go crazy during winter season. Which meant it had to be sent twice to power tap for recalibration.
They do not brake at all, even compared to my other 3 carbon wheel sets they are by far the worst braking surface. Again, not sure if the brake pads that power tap provided were optimal.
All that makes a $3,200 purchase seem like a fairly crappy deal. But then again I may just have been an unlucky customer. I am going to buy another set in the future but directly from Enve with 180 hubs
They were flexy. I would have to open the rear caliper completely so they would not rub when climbing. Maybe Powertap lacing issue?
Powertap would go crazy during winter season. Which meant it had to be sent twice to power tap for recalibration.
They do not brake at all, even compared to my other 3 carbon wheel sets they are by far the worst braking surface. Again, not sure if the brake pads that power tap provided were optimal.
All that makes a $3,200 purchase seem like a fairly crappy deal. But then again I may just have been an unlucky customer. I am going to buy another set in the future but directly from Enve with 180 hubs
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11-27-16, 07:46 AM
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Several Things.
They were flexy. I would have to open the rear caliper completely so they would not rub when climbing. Maybe Powertap lacing issue?
Powertap would go crazy during winter season. Which meant it had to be sent twice to power tap for recalibration.
They do not brake at all, even compared to my other 3 carbon wheel sets they are by far the worst braking surface. Again, not sure if the brake pads that power tap provided were optimal.
All that makes a $3,200 purchase seem like a fairly crappy deal. But then again I may just have been an unlucky customer. I am going to buy another set in the future but directly from Enve with 180 hubs
They were flexy. I would have to open the rear caliper completely so they would not rub when climbing. Maybe Powertap lacing issue?
Powertap would go crazy during winter season. Which meant it had to be sent twice to power tap for recalibration.
They do not brake at all, even compared to my other 3 carbon wheel sets they are by far the worst braking surface. Again, not sure if the brake pads that power tap provided were optimal.
All that makes a $3,200 purchase seem like a fairly crappy deal. But then again I may just have been an unlucky customer. I am going to buy another set in the future but directly from Enve with 180 hubs
11-27-16, 08:13 AM
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Current lore has it that a flexier rim would help when wheel flex is due to the hub and/or too few or too light spokes. If the rim is flexible enough to bend at the horizontal diameter, then the whole rim won't rotate around the hub and into the brakes. It is a counterintuitive argument, but seems to be valid.
11-27-16, 08:17 AM
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Kid sized drop bar road bikes.
They used them a couple times and outgrew them... and moved on to their preferred sports anyhow.
MTB or flat bar bikes would probably have been more enjoyable.
They used them a couple times and outgrew them... and moved on to their preferred sports anyhow.
MTB or flat bar bikes would probably have been more enjoyable.
11-27-16, 01:52 PM
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For all the same reasons that people who don't like Carbon clinchers don't like carbon clinchers. I'm sure that as time goes on and the carbon technology improves and disc brakes eventually take over, they will be the way to go.
11-27-16, 02:45 PM
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Going from girlfriend v3.2 to wife v1.0
11-27-16, 02:58 PM
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11-27-16, 03:03 PM
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The "upgrade" from triple to compact (to better "fit" the pure racing bike it was on). Hated the wide range double. Went back after a year. (A racing bike needs (IMO) the 53-42 I used to race. The 28 tooth inner ring won't kill the bike.
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11-27-16, 04:01 PM
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M35+ to M45+
11-27-16, 04:12 PM
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I got a Corima aero seapost in the early 2000s. It was light but so flexy that I couldn't take my hands off of the bars. A crash cracked it and that was that.
IRC Paperlite tires. Flatted before you got to the start line.
IRC Paperlite tires. Flatted before you got to the start line.
11-27-16, 06:59 PM
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Electronics shifting, Ultegra Di2 specifically. Still prefer the tactile feedback of the mechanic shifting.
11-27-16, 08:46 PM
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- not wrestling to get back on big chain ring
- multi-shifting when cresting in undulating terrain
11-27-16, 08:57 PM
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We may have the same pump from Specialized.
Mine is around that vintage and cost and it has just worked flawlessly.
I'm all for spending extra to get better gear, but this pump just won't give up the ghost.
11-27-16, 09:25 PM
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However, if those are the two biggest 'advantages' for you, I'm nowhere near sold. My mechanical groups have never had issues with either. Things may go out of adjustment over time but a few turns of a barrel adjuster has always quickly sorted that out.
11-27-16, 09:41 PM
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"After a long day in the saddle," ...
I'm not going to come off looking good here but I suspect it's all about context: I'm talking brevet territory, including super brevets (600km+>10,000m), >monthly >200kms, 150km+1,000m in <5hrs, regular +2,000m--+4,000m rides, and similar.
I'm not going to come off looking good here but I suspect it's all about context: I'm talking brevet territory, including super brevets (600km+>10,000m), >monthly >200kms, 150km+1,000m in <5hrs, regular +2,000m--+4,000m rides, and similar.
11-28-16, 04:47 AM
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Disappointment, yes, but no regrets exactly.
Most disappointment per $ spent, probably cheap bottle cages, due to the total disappointment.
Most $ spent on something not so great - fancy wheels. They look really great, and I suppose they have their advantage from time to time, but more often I'd rather have something lighter without the sail area.
Most disappointment per $ spent, probably cheap bottle cages, due to the total disappointment.
Most $ spent on something not so great - fancy wheels. They look really great, and I suppose they have their advantage from time to time, but more often I'd rather have something lighter without the sail area.
11-28-16, 07:52 AM
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Expensive carbon cages.
They are loose on the bottle, the bottle wobbles around and get disgustingly filthy black scruffs ground in which won't wash off.
The old plastic cages gripped tight enough to prevent that.
They are loose on the bottle, the bottle wobbles around and get disgustingly filthy black scruffs ground in which won't wash off.
The old plastic cages gripped tight enough to prevent that.
11-28-16, 08:57 AM
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Now that the subject of aero, carbon clinchers has come up, I have to say I regretted that exercise in "keeping up with the Joneses" too. I built a great pair for very little money using free sample rims that were given to me by a dealer I know. They added weight, amplified every noise on the bike, made a lot of noise themselves, caused me to have to carry long stem tubes and/or stem extenders, the list just goes on an on. And as someone who never gets into the sweet spot of speed for significant aero advantage, the whole thing was just for show. Luckily I was able to sell them for more than they cost me to build.
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