View Poll Results: What Are Your Helmet Wearing Habits?
I've never worn a bike helmet
52
10.40%
I used to wear a helmet, but have stopped
24
4.80%
I've always worn a helmet
208
41.60%
I didn't wear a helmet, but now do
126
25.20%
I sometimes wear a helmet depending on the conditions
90
18.00%
Voters: 500. You may not vote on this poll
The Helmet Thread 2
#3576
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,651
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11009 Post(s)
Liked 7,540 Times
in
4,216 Posts
Actually, by the style of the helmet, it doesn't really look that safe. Especially with the ears not being covered. It's just doesn't fit my needs at least. Anyway, what's your opinion of this new style of helmet?
https://m.pinkbike.com/news/review-l...re-helmet.html
https://m.pinkbike.com/news/review-l...re-helmet.html
I dont think Ive ever seen a cross country MTB rider wearing a full on cover the head motorcycle helmet.
The Lazer helmet in question does sit a bit high on the user's head, I guess it could drop 2cm or so, but it isnt designed to cover the guy's ears. It may just be that the helmet shape doesnt fit the user's head shape very well.
#3578
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 25,342
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8313 Post(s)
Liked 9,108 Times
in
4,503 Posts
Likes For Mr. 66:
#3580
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 25,342
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8313 Post(s)
Liked 9,108 Times
in
4,503 Posts
Trail helmet.
#3581
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 25,342
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8313 Post(s)
Liked 9,108 Times
in
4,503 Posts
I was going to ding it for the visor that is shown so high up that it can't be expected to actually function, or that maybe it's meant to snag on branches when you're crashing through the woods. Turns out it does flip down into a useful position. I don't do MTB, but I like visors, just to keep the sun out of my eyes.
Other than that ...
Other than that ...
Likes For big john:
#3582
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 25,342
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8313 Post(s)
Liked 9,108 Times
in
4,503 Posts
#3583
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2022
Location: USA - Southwest PA
Posts: 3,144
Bikes: Cannondale - Gary Fisher - Giant - Litespeed - Schwinn Paramount - Schwinn (lugged steel) - Trek OCLV
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1417 Post(s)
Liked 1,933 Times
in
1,111 Posts
many of my off road friends have helmets like this (the majority)
not a big fan of the looks of a visor pointed up like that
( some you can adjust down a tad )
not a big fan of the looks of a visor pointed up like that
( some you can adjust down a tad )
#3584
Senior Member
It looks like a normal trail riding helmet other than the fit on that particulr rider is maybe a bit small and the visoor is flipped up. If you google that model and look at pictures of it on other riders it looks pretty normal.
Likes For staehpj1:
#3585
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 951
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 546 Post(s)
Liked 468 Times
in
261 Posts
OH, I know. It just made me think of a baseball cap bill I was thankful for once. I was wearing my ball cap under my helmet and did something I shouldn't have. My face got some, but that cap saved me a good bit considering how chewed up it was.
Likes For RH Clark:
#3586
Just a person on bike
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 2,140
Bikes: 2015 Trek 1.1, 2021 Specialized Roubaix, 2022 Tern HSD S+
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 132 Post(s)
Liked 86 Times
in
56 Posts
Helmet durability
My 3-year-old daughter dropped her helmet onto the concrete ground. She was sitting in the child seat on the back of our Tern HSD - probably about 5 feet high. Should the helmet be replaced?
It's a relatively new helmet so I'd like to keep it if safety isn't compromised by the fall, but I don't want to take a chance, either.
Any insights would be appreciated.
It's a relatively new helmet so I'd like to keep it if safety isn't compromised by the fall, but I don't want to take a chance, either.
Any insights would be appreciated.
__________________
The value of your life doesn't change based on the way you travel. - Dawn Schellenberg (SDOT)
The value of your life doesn't change based on the way you travel. - Dawn Schellenberg (SDOT)
#3587
LR÷P=HR
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 2,193
Bikes: 1981 Holdsworth Special, 1993 C-dale MT3000 & 1996 F700CAD3, 2018 Cervelo R3 & 2022 R5, JustGo Runt, Ridley Oval, Kickr Bike 8-)
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 868 Post(s)
Liked 1,213 Times
in
700 Posts
That's a really tough question to answer.
It's parental decision that I would not want to get in the middle of.
If I were to drop my helmet a similar 5' distance, I'd be buying another $300 helmet.
But... living on a hill all my rides begin with at ~40MPH
If I dropped it from my hand ~2.5' then I'd likely think twice about it.
I suspect you already know the best answer to your question.
All the best
Barry
It's parental decision that I would not want to get in the middle of.
If I were to drop my helmet a similar 5' distance, I'd be buying another $300 helmet.
But... living on a hill all my rides begin with at ~40MPH
If I dropped it from my hand ~2.5' then I'd likely think twice about it.
I suspect you already know the best answer to your question.
All the best
Barry
#3588
Over the hill
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 24,388
Bikes: Giant Defy, Giant Revolt
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1002 Post(s)
Liked 1,219 Times
in
697 Posts
It’s impossible to tell 100% certain as there could be hidden damage, so you’re going to have to make that call. If you see any dents or cracks, toss it. If not, it’s probably fine having only dropped on its own weight, but the cargo it’s protecting is very precious and only you can determine if the risk is reasonable.
__________________
It's like riding a bicycle
It's like riding a bicycle
#3589
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago, IL, USA
Posts: 2,888
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1463 Post(s)
Liked 1,487 Times
in
871 Posts
Obviously if you're worried about it, then replace it. Your daughter's brain is worth a lot more than the cost of a new helmet.
That said, I would probably only replace it if there are visible signs of damage, like a crack in the shell or foam structure. Dropping an empty helmet on the ground doesn't seem like it would compress the foam structure like it would if it it were worn during a crash.
I'm just some random person on the internet though, so take this advice however you want.
That said, I would probably only replace it if there are visible signs of damage, like a crack in the shell or foam structure. Dropping an empty helmet on the ground doesn't seem like it would compress the foam structure like it would if it it were worn during a crash.
I'm just some random person on the internet though, so take this advice however you want.
Likes For msu2001la:
#3590
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,960
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7040 Post(s)
Liked 11,080 Times
in
4,734 Posts
I've always thought it rather unlikely that a helmet could somehow be damaged internally without any external signs. I mean, it's essentially styrofoam; if any of it is compressed, it'd likely be externally visible.
Likes For Koyote:
#3591
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,105
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 573 Post(s)
Liked 662 Times
in
390 Posts
My standards are: If I hit my head (ground, tree branch, etc) with the helmet on and it still hurts, time for a new helmet.
Chances are, a 5 foot drop will not decrease the protection for your daughter in any conditions that she will encounter on a bike.
From a parental point of view: How much will it cost you to put your mind at rest?
$20-50? Well worth it.
Also, make this an opportunity.
Buy a new one that is better, and possibly one that she picks out and has some room to grow into.
Chances are, a 5 foot drop will not decrease the protection for your daughter in any conditions that she will encounter on a bike.
From a parental point of view: How much will it cost you to put your mind at rest?
$20-50? Well worth it.
Also, make this an opportunity.
Buy a new one that is better, and possibly one that she picks out and has some room to grow into.
Likes For CrimsonEclipse:
#3592
Should Be More Popular
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 43,091
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
Mentioned: 560 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 22628 Post(s)
Liked 8,953 Times
in
4,173 Posts
If the outer shell not cracked, inner EPS core not cracked, and all attachment points are strong and intact, I believe the helmet should be ok. This is nearly impossible to “prove” so if you will sleep better at night just get a new helmet.
Reminder helmets work mainly by slowing down the sudden deceleration of head/brain on impact, and this happens by allowing the EPS to crush. So based on this, I do expect helmet should be ok.
Reminder helmets work mainly by slowing down the sudden deceleration of head/brain on impact, and this happens by allowing the EPS to crush. So based on this, I do expect helmet should be ok.
Likes For Calsun:
#3594
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2,408
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1571 Post(s)
Liked 1,744 Times
in
979 Posts
Wow- people are paranoid here. The helmet is fine. If your kid bikes to school, he/she probably already dropped the helmet more than once before lunch. A more active kid probably used the helmet as kickball, or used the helmet to bat baseballs.
Likes For icemilkcoffee:
Likes For Barry2:
#3596
Just Pedaling
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: US West Coast
Posts: 1,032
Bikes: YEP!
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 338 Post(s)
Liked 532 Times
in
355 Posts
Logic says that if the head isn't inside the helmet upon impact with ground, it's probably fine But if you're looking for peace of mind, what's $25.bucks? I get a kick out people that buy used from second hand stores. "Life is like a box of chocolates...."
#3597
Senior Member
A drop of 5' and a weight of what? 10 or 12 ounces? It sounds like a very light impact, Your call, but if it was me I wouldn't sweat it.
Likes For staehpj1:
#3598
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,489
Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1757 Post(s)
Liked 1,288 Times
in
746 Posts
I'm not a big believer in that "You dropped your helmet 5 ft and now it's no good."
#3599
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 2,007
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2725 Post(s)
Liked 488 Times
in
353 Posts
The forces at play when someone wearing a helmet falls from a bike are like ~100x those of just the helmet, they scale linearly with weight right? My helmet falls off my bike sometimes at speed and I never deemed it damaged, for what it’s worth. The 100x number is also assuming you fall off your bike when stopped, what happens during most crashes is more than 100x what happened to that helmet.
Lol @ people considering replacing a helmet that fell 5 ft. Just lol.
Lol @ people considering replacing a helmet that fell 5 ft. Just lol.
Last edited by LarrySellerz; 04-26-23 at 04:06 PM.
Likes For LarrySellerz:
#3600
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,098 Times
in
5,054 Posts
I put the probability of any given helmet having been dropped at least 5 feet in the store and/or warehouse at 50%.