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Sun Tour friction shifters. Prefer short with rubberized/plastic covers.
I'm in DIY bar-con mode, and I have a good start with the parts that fit into the end of the bars, but I'm lacking the levers, washers and tightening mechanisms. If you have a set of borked bar-cons, or neglected clamp-ons and are looking to get something useful in trade, give me a ring.
I'm in DIY bar-con mode, and I have a good start with the parts that fit into the end of the bars, but I'm lacking the levers, washers and tightening mechanisms. If you have a set of borked bar-cons, or neglected clamp-ons and are looking to get something useful in trade, give me a ring.
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Wanted - Suntour Symetric shifter mounting band(s)
I have these three and would like to try at least one out, it sounds like a great idea - why didn't it catch on?
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My guess is timing. Shimano was probably perfecting early versions of SIS about the same time. That, and the trend toward integrated groups, making it less likely that a mixed group would be on a new bike.
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I’ll check when I get home, but if I have one, you’ll have to take the entire thing.
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There was also a clamp version. There's a few on eBay right now, like this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255782638400
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255782638400
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There was also a clamp version. There's a few on eBay right now, like this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255782638400
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255782638400
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I don't find it difficult or exhausting to trim either derailleur, so the use of Symmetrics never appealed to me. I did though enjoy overhauling them and the chance to reverse the internal cam to use a reverse normal fd for the rare flip that had one.
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Oh, there's no problem with that. I just grew lazy and complacent. My main commuting bicycle has BB spindle a few mm shorter than specified / recommended for the correct chain line and also the casette currently at the back is 7sp instead of 6sp freewheel to match the era of the other components. As a result I can basically shift from highest to lowest gear (on the big chainring at the front) and back without ever catching the front derailleur cage (not that I use more than 5 gears on that one). Which is not the case with my other bicycles. Trimming is a thing whilst riding them.
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The elusive search for the perfect length continues!
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That was my precise plan. I also send 8 speed derailleurs when people ask for 7 speed. I know they underestimated...
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There was also a clamp version. There's a few on eBay right now, like this one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255782638400
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255782638400
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I can screw that up too!
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Campy NR or Sugino Mighty Comp track/pista crank, the longer the better, DS arm only to complete, with or without chainring.
Will trade complete road minus BB of either, $$$, or?
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Van, Like this?
Lemme know, Smiles, MH
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ISO - 7 speed freewheel in good condition with 28 tooth large ring.
Have - a reasonably good assortment of things - ask.
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In case you don't find a nice vintage one, I've been very happy using these the last five years or so:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175249444991
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175249444991
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(Still) looking for Super-Maxy left crankarm
Had a lead on one but it's turned out to be a nogo, so I am still after a non-drive-sidearm to match the niceish triple what would suit a particular project....
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In case you don't find a nice vintage one, I've been very happy using these the last five years or so:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175249444991
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175249444991
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Perhaps I've gotten used to some cassettes and also some freewheels that have cutouts - and consequently weigh a good bit less.
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I think that the newer Shimano freewheels might be the lightest ones in this day and age, the body is pared away and some of the cogs are pinned (so with a much larger central cutout).
Maybe silver paint can save their looks? I've seen it done and the paint seems to make minimal contact with the chain except at the teeth.
I've found spray paint hard to remove from a freewheel for what that's worth.
The E-bike industry has has resurrected freewheel development, some are even 10-speed now! Many hub motors still use freewheels and solid axles (with perhaps the non-drive side of the axle made hollow for the power wire).
I bought the Sunrace 11-36(?)T 10s freewheel, and was going to narrow it by removing the 11t and shortening the threaded (for a lockring) body using a grinder.
But the thing 1) weighed a ton, 2) positioned the big cog a bit too far from the spokes, and 3) oddly had the freewheel tighten/bottom onto the hubshell shoulder against a plastic sealing ring that deformed and caused drag immediately. So I sent it back. Mine also had a rare spacing error between a couple of it's cogs!
I did communicate with Sunrace, who offered as "an exception" to replace it (even though it was considered by them to have been sold out of their controlled market), but I ultimately simply returned it to the Ebay seller.
Maybe silver paint can save their looks? I've seen it done and the paint seems to make minimal contact with the chain except at the teeth.
I've found spray paint hard to remove from a freewheel for what that's worth.
The E-bike industry has has resurrected freewheel development, some are even 10-speed now! Many hub motors still use freewheels and solid axles (with perhaps the non-drive side of the axle made hollow for the power wire).
I bought the Sunrace 11-36(?)T 10s freewheel, and was going to narrow it by removing the 11t and shortening the threaded (for a lockring) body using a grinder.
But the thing 1) weighed a ton, 2) positioned the big cog a bit too far from the spokes, and 3) oddly had the freewheel tighten/bottom onto the hubshell shoulder against a plastic sealing ring that deformed and caused drag immediately. So I sent it back. Mine also had a rare spacing error between a couple of it's cogs!
I did communicate with Sunrace, who offered as "an exception" to replace it (even though it was considered by them to have been sold out of their controlled market), but I ultimately simply returned it to the Ebay seller.
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