TMonk

Yeah. They're generally pretty docile but can be mean if threatened. My tia in Tucson was gored by one a couple years back, I think because it's baby was nearby or something.

TimothyH

Dura Ace Grease - $8.99
Shimano Dura-Ace Grease, 50G | Jenson USA


-Tim-

SquidPuppet

That comes out to $152.83 for a 850 gram tub. AKA $82.00 per lb.


Nope.

Leukybear 

Wow I think you've found the source.

Did you order some? (the motorex 2k)

50voltphantom

I'm going through cyclocross withdrawal now that cross is over. I've been sticking to a training regimen for the last three months and now that the my season is done it seems super weird to still get up and ride before work 3-4 times a week

SquidPuppet

Not yet, but I am going to. I ordered and received some of the Red Line stuff because of the high temp capabilities for my rear hubs.

If the Motorex is as good as I've read, my plan is to use it for everything except my rear hubs. I've been keeping an eye on pricing, which fluctuates, and the best I've seen was $24.xx for the big 850 gram tub.

Carcosa

Is your season over or there aren't anymore races? We've got six more in the state series and one more local one (Christmas theme with shenanigans encouraged). Any local CX guys to do some race simulation stuff to fend off withdrawals?

This weekend I had some friends from NY come stay. Managed to borrow a SS MTB to introduce one to off road riding and he loved it, also meant I rode some gnarly single track on the cross bike that I will not be doing again. I finally can say I appreciate full suspension.

Also, rode fixed for the first time in about 4 months or more. Felt pretty great.

@johnnytheboy Where I live is exactly twice as hilly, half your miles and same elevation for the year.

50voltphantom

There aren't any more races within 4 hours of me, for sure. Not sure if the local group is still doing Wednesday practices or not but Wednesday evenings never fit my schedule anyway.

Someday (maybe when my kids are a little older), I see myself organizing at least a couple races, if not a local series that goes well into December (if not longer). Cyclocross is really the only legit bike racing that happens at all in my area and I kinda believe a "Build it and they will come" scenario would happen.

TMonk

Then don't! That's why they call it an off-season. Go for a hike, or something.

A lot of guys ride the same year round and hit fitness and motivation plateaus. Personally I look forward to the late summer every year when I can do other activities and drop my riding by about half.

Then around this time I start to get stoked to get in shape, and the rapid fitness gains that I get this time of the year are quite exciting. I tested last week at only 10w off my personal best from this year, which was set in May. If I can stay on the horse without getting sick or injured I should kick ass next year!!!

50voltphantom

I know you're totally right, it just feels strange.

Carcosa

Dang. That is a definitely a bummer. When you start getting more than 2 hours away it becomes a big time commitment. Especially if you want to get a good pre-ride in or watch other races.

Do it! I can imagine it's a huge undertaking, but the hyper-local stuff is the most fun, even if it's a small field. It's fun to race with the same folks every weekend.

Sounds awesome man! Say I quit racing mid to early January. How much time would you take off?

TMonk

8-10 weeks of reduced volume is what I do. You might need more or less time depending on how demanding your schedule was. And don't take the time totally off, just cut it back a bit (say 33-50%) and don't stress about it - if you don't want to ride, don't! If you want to stay in bed, do it!

edit: another thing to consider is how long your season is. In socal we race (road) from Feb through August, and track goes for nearly 2 months after that, although I typically stop racing all together by August.

If the cross scene in your area doesn't start till winter, you can afford a bigger break. As long as you keep some baseline bike fitness it shouldn't take more than 3 months of dedicated training to get back into fighting shape.

Carcosa

Nice. Thanks @TMonk

TMonk

Cheers, and just like everything else, YMMV

TimothyH

I don't understand this logic.

That's like saying a single avocado is too expensive because a truckload cost $5000.

seau grateau

I don't really get it either. I've been using the same tube of Park grease for like four years. Don't even remember how much it cost.

Leukybear 

I've never seen an ad campaign by a bike company as bad as Pinarello's e-bike launch.

https://www.bicycling.com/culture/pi...ytro-e-bike-ad

LesterOfPuppets

It's closer to the choice between buying one avocado for $9 or 17 avocados for $29. If Avocados had a 10+ year shelf life.

seau grateau

Yeah, I saw that yesterday. Would be very rad if bike companies, sponsors, and race organizers would actually start respecting women's cycling.

SquidPuppet

If that's how you figure stuff out, go for it. But that's seriously flawed thinking. The price per unit is the price per unit. If it's expensive it's expensive.

Look at your tub of Crystal grease. It's 454 grams. A full pound for $18.00. (still pricey) Comparing $18.00 for a pound to $83.00 for a pound is apples to apples. Black and white.

Shimano grease is a 50 gram smidge for $9.00. That's lame. Less than 2 ounces. WTF are you going to do with that? The Dualco MINI grease gun (and all the other bike brands) needs 3 ounces just to fill the bottom canister. You'd need almost $12.00 worth of grease just to fill a baby gun. ONCE.

I could fill this thing almost seven times with Motorex for what it costs to fill it once with Shimano.

SquidPuppet

You don't understand why $152.00 is silly for a small one lb tub? That's the size of a softball. If someone owns a few bikes with loose ball hubs, pedals, BBs and headsets, that isn't a an overkill purchase.

seau grateau

Different strokes, I guess. I generally try not to buy things with loose bearings.

SquidPuppet

My point was about the price. A small margarine tub of grease for $80.00? That doesn't raise an eyebrow?

LesterOfPuppets

He doesn't care about the price of avocados cuz he only eats apples.

SquidPuppet

500 grams. Same size/volume as a decent coffee mug. $93.00 on fleabay. $88.00 at Amazon.

Or you can "Save Money" and buy it in a nail polish sized container and do half your bike, ONCE, for $20.00.

Makes sense right? Cuz paying seven times as much to get half as much always works out better in the long run.