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Old 06-09-11, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
I don't really see how martial arts is the solution.
Neither do I. Blame GE and CAT.

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I don't need to gain anymore weight. - I naturally flit around - I like it.

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Psimet - Why do you have a 9-5 job? It sounds like you should be a consultant. Tell your boss that in order to get more engaged you are going to quit. They can hire you back as a consultant. You can then advertise your skills to the rest of the industry (or other industries). Seems like that would be a good way to have multiple interesting projects that you can concentrate on intensely for short periods. With the increased spare time you can build wheels.
I have considered taking that route many times. Have been told by many that I should go down that road. Used to report to the HR manager here and she even said flat out near the beginning, "Honestly Rob your time here is going to end up being limited to when it dawns on you that you need to be a consultant. That's where I see you going."

Flip side is I have always had issues with consultants. I generally have a problem with anyone who has a vested interest in you continuing to have a problem.

One other approach I have been after kind of silently has been as a cycling industry independent sales rep. If I could pick up some small lines to help augment....it would start to be a no-brainer.

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Gave my notice this morning. I'd been dreading it and procrastinated for several days but first thing today I made appointments with the scheduling secretary for a face to face. Both my immediate boss and my boss of bosses were surprisingly supportive and congratulatory. Almost a hint of envy, even.

Last day here is June 30. Then family vacation, language study, and prep work for a consulting gig in the fall.

Phew. A huge weight off my shoulders. I feel free.
Congrats! Let me know if you want to rep some bike wheels to help pay the bills.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Gave my notice this morning. I'd been dreading it and procrastinated for several days but first thing today I made appointments with the scheduling secretary for a face to face. Both my immediate boss and my boss of bosses were surprisingly supportive and congratulatory. Almost a hint of envy, even.

Last day here is June 30. Then family vacation, language study, and prep work for a consulting gig in the fall.

Phew. A huge weight off my shoulders. I feel free.

Cathartic isn't it?
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Yo Rob, why don't you get together with some local machine wonks and some carbon guys and start prototyping some stuff. And I woulda been interested in investing too.
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Yo Rob, why don't you get together with some local machine wonks and some carbon guys and start prototyping some stuff. And I woulda been interested in investing too.
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Originally Posted by caloso
Gave my notice this morning. I'd been dreading it and procrastinated for several days but first thing today I made appointments with the scheduling secretary for a face to face. Both my immediate boss and my boss of bosses were surprisingly supportive and congratulatory. Almost a hint of envy, even.

Last day here is June 30. Then family vacation, language study, and prep work for a consulting gig in the fall.

Phew. A huge weight off my shoulders. I feel free.
Well done and best of luck! I can't remember one job I've left where I felt it was a mistake, when you feel it's time to go then moving on is often the best idea.

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Be careful out there, especially since it's just starting to get hot. I did an hour easy last night and it was pretty brutal.
Yeah I'm going to take it really easy and I've been hydrating all day to prepare for a ride through the oven. At least it's not a long ride home unlike the time I foolishly rode to Bear Mountain on a day like this without preparing properly.

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Originally Posted by caloso
Gave my notice this morning. I'd been dreading it and procrastinated for several days but first thing today I made appointments with the scheduling secretary for a face to face. Both my immediate boss and my boss of bosses were surprisingly supportive and congratulatory. Almost a hint of envy, even.

Last day here is June 30. Then family vacation, language study, and prep work for a consulting gig in the fall.

Phew. A huge weight off my shoulders. I feel free.
Good luck, caloso. I did not give notice, but I am taking a 4 day weekend. The idiot has actually been accommodating toward me for a couple weeks. Maybe he knows if I leave it will cost money, at least in the short term. I need to htfu and make the decision.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
I generally have a problem with anyone who has a vested interest in you continuing to have a problem.
Thinking that way is a bridge-burning operation.

I always worked to make my solutions useful and reasonably priced, on the theory that the additional work I'll get from doing a good job will be worth more than milking the current contract. I got enough repeat business (and got hired full time a couple times) that I think it worked.

But consultants are the first fired when the economy or business sector has a down turn. You need to put a lot of money aside and be good at marketing yourself.
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Well done and best of luck! I can't remember one job I've left where I felt it was a mistake because I always landed on my feet and made the best of each situation.
+1 caloso. Nice work.
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Yo Rob, why don't you get together with some local machine wonks and some carbon guys and start prototyping some stuff. And I woulda been interested in investing too.
I also have some money I'm looking to put somewhere short term (6 months or so). CD rates are so terrible, and savings are a joke, so I might as well invest in somebody I like. If you need some more, let me know too.
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Cathartic isn't it?
All of a sudden all the things that were driving me nuts, keeping me up at night, frustrating me because I couldn't do anything about them, are not my problem any more.
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Originally Posted by caloso
All of a sudden all the things that were driving me nuts, keeping me up at night, frustrating me because I couldn't do anything about them, are not my problem any more.
I need me some of that.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
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Flip side is I have always had issues with consultants. I generally have a problem with anyone who has a vested interest in you continuing to have a problem.
That's precisely why you'd be like gold to a good CEO. Imagine the trust you'll create when you get paid to analyze a problem and then come back and say: "There is nothing I can do for you. Here's why..." Trust = gold.
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All of a sudden all the things that were driving me nuts, keeping me up at night, frustrating me because I couldn't do anything about them, are not my problem any more.
Nice. I find the flip side of this comes around to me every now and then. I often think about projects I had going at previous places and when I used to work there and I remember them like one would all of a sudden remember they have to go to a test they forgot to study for.
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Yo rob. How about you be the consultant you want to be then?

Companies will always have problems. Be the one that fixes them. The more you fix, the more they and others will need you to do what you do. It's not like there is a shortage of companies with problems...

This isn't a 'work yourself out of a job scenario'. Take advantage of it. You've apparently got the brains for it. And if you have 'downtime' you have another avenue where you can put that while finding other gigs.
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Starting a consulting gig from scratch for me would be kind of tough. Passion is more on the wheels although consulting has less overhead. I'd have to change my approach. In real life I go into situations and assess them extremely quickly. Example would be sitting down in a meeting, listening to the dialog for 30 minutes and then standing up and leaving. When asked why I usually say something like: "well I could be wrong but it appears that the issue is fairly systemic and it seems like you have 2 anchor draggers who aren't going to change unless you fire one of them and the rest of the room is showing support only because you said they should come be a part of the project. This is the new flavor of the day and all you are doing is paying lip service to it because you went to a seminar that told you that it was essential for top management to 'support' change. You guys could sit in that meeting for another 3 days and come up with some mediocre ideas that will get lost during implementation due to the daily grind and everyone's propensity to chuck improvements in the name of getting parts out the door.

Sure, sure you're lost and you don't know how to make big changes or apply new thinking especially because you can easily see how those tools are 'great for the other guys where their business is straightforward but that won't work for our business'. I understand. This place is in fact totally unique. It has a brand, or at least that's what those marketing consultants sold you on last year. This place can actually make parts to specification and deliver 95% on time and will use those two "benefits" as reasons customers should not see this business as a commodity based business. I guess making good parts truly is a differentiator....

....tell you what, I'm going to go check out bike forums and see if I got any new wheel inquiries. I am also going to meet up with a customer in the parking lot during lunch and leave early so that I can get a good ride in If you get around to the point where you decide that it's time to change the people or else you need the CHANGE the people then let me know."

I'd have to change all that into, "Hmmm...OK....I see. So you're telling me that your challenges are x, y , and Z? Am I understanding this correctly? OK what have you done to try to solve that? How has that worked out? Uh-huh. I see. So how does that make you feel."
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rule of thumb: get advice from RTC and then do the opposite.
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it's always good to find a reliable contrary indicator.
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I have to till the garden tonight. Really didn't want to. Looks like rain coming in on the radar. Yay me.
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My tiller has decided to eat belts.
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I hate tillers. They remind me of when I was a kid and my pops would make me till our massive garden (1000+ SQFT) with a relic POS. That hunk of junk weighed more than me, barely stayed running, and tipped over to the side so often I was actually afraid to run it.

My current garden is a nice little raised bed. No tiller required.
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A tornado just touched down about 10 miles from here (work). I guess my evening recovery ride is not going to happen.
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All of a sudden all the things that were driving me nuts, keeping me up at night, frustrating me because I couldn't do anything about them, are not my problem any more.
Congrats!
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Mike has hit a snag with a RD hanger that bent causing the RD to assplode. Might have broken a few spokes as well.

Toughin' it.
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