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It pains me deeply to reveal this, but I agree with . . . . . . . gasp . . . . . . . Vol, on the gravel issue. Dirt (gravel) roads just aren't proper, in fact they're crude. What proper, sophisticated roadie wants to get muddy while cycling?
As usual, I blame Big Bicycle.
And you consumer guys.
Sad.
As usual, I blame Big Bicycle.
And you consumer guys.
Sad.
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You put much stock in happiness surveys?
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It pains me deeply to reveal this, but I agree with . . . . . . . gasp . . . . . . . Vol, on the gravel issue. Dirt (gravel) roads just aren't proper, in fact they're crude. What proper, sophisticated roadie wants to get muddy while cycling?
As usual, I blame Big Bicycle.
And you consumer guys.
Sad.
As usual, I blame Big Bicycle.
And you consumer guys.
Sad.
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I use them on all of our bikes. I stick with the Shimano QLs on the Shimano chains on my Trek, and KMC links on the others. I've never had a problem with one failing or coming apart. But, then again, I'm not cranking out massive watts all day long.
I know nothing about Campy stuff.
I know nothing about Campy stuff.
I did connect a Campagnolo chain with a non-Campagnolo tool and it came apart while riding after a couple thousand miles. Luckily, I didn't fall and nothing was damaged.
I'll look into KMC and see if they have any info.
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How confident are you in quick links? I've never used them on road bikes except for emergency repairs. I'm also neglectful of drivetrain maintenance, except for lubing the chain, and tend to let everything get trashed before I replace anything. Plus, I break things, but usually not chains.
I ask because I need to shorten the chain on my Campagnolo equipped bike. I bought a used crankset in September and the shop installed it for me along with a new chain I had and it has shifted like crap and dropped the chain ever since. I just realized the chain is too long when trying to diagnose the bad performance. I don't have a Campagnolo chain tool or an extra pin and was thinking of just using a quick link to shorten it.
Is there a specific quick link for Campagnolo chains? Anyone know if I can put my old 10 speed rings on an 11 speed Chorus crankset? The bcd is the same and they look similar. Instead of spending $100 for a big ring I thought I would try the old one from the cracked crankset and see how it works before dropping more dough into the thing.
I ask because I need to shorten the chain on my Campagnolo equipped bike. I bought a used crankset in September and the shop installed it for me along with a new chain I had and it has shifted like crap and dropped the chain ever since. I just realized the chain is too long when trying to diagnose the bad performance. I don't have a Campagnolo chain tool or an extra pin and was thinking of just using a quick link to shorten it.
Is there a specific quick link for Campagnolo chains? Anyone know if I can put my old 10 speed rings on an 11 speed Chorus crankset? The bcd is the same and they look similar. Instead of spending $100 for a big ring I thought I would try the old one from the cracked crankset and see how it works before dropping more dough into the thing.
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What brand of links? Some of them say single use only, what's up with that? I have one to carry on the mtb and it doesn't say that on the package. It's a SRAM.
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It pains me deeply to reveal this, but I agree with . . . . . . . gasp . . . . . . . Vol, on the gravel issue. Dirt (gravel) roads just aren't proper, in fact they're crude. What proper, sophisticated roadie wants to get muddy while cycling?
As usual, I blame Big Bicycle.
And you consumer guys.
Sad.
As usual, I blame Big Bicycle.
And you consumer guys.
Sad.
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So Ive heard about the bike supply shortage, car supply shortage, housing shortage, but no one is talking about the candy shortage. I cant find gobstoppers anywhere.
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Shimano, which are single use; their definition of single use is pairing it for the lifetime of one chain. They just don't want you wearing out one chain with it and then moving it to another chain.
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It pains me deeply to reveal this, but I agree with . . . . . . . gasp . . . . . . . Vol, on the gravel issue. Dirt (gravel) roads just aren't proper, in fact they're crude. What proper, sophisticated roadie wants to get muddy while cycling?
As usual, I blame Big Bicycle.
And you consumer guys.
Sad.
As usual, I blame Big Bicycle.
And you consumer guys.
Sad.
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How confident are you in quick links? I've never used them on road bikes except for emergency repairs. I'm also neglectful of drivetrain maintenance, except for lubing the chain, and tend to let everything get trashed before I replace anything. Plus, I break things, but usually not chains.
I ask because I need to shorten the chain on my Campagnolo equipped bike. I bought a used crankset in September and the shop installed it for me along with a new chain I had and it has shifted like crap and dropped the chain ever since. I just realized the chain is too long when trying to diagnose the bad performance. I don't have a Campagnolo chain tool or an extra pin and was thinking of just using a quick link to shorten it.
Is there a specific quick link for Campagnolo chains? Anyone know if I can put my old 10 speed rings on an 11 speed Chorus crankset? The bcd is the same and they look similar. Instead of spending $100 for a big ring I thought I would try the old one from the cracked crankset and see how it works before dropping more dough into the thing.
I ask because I need to shorten the chain on my Campagnolo equipped bike. I bought a used crankset in September and the shop installed it for me along with a new chain I had and it has shifted like crap and dropped the chain ever since. I just realized the chain is too long when trying to diagnose the bad performance. I don't have a Campagnolo chain tool or an extra pin and was thinking of just using a quick link to shorten it.
Is there a specific quick link for Campagnolo chains? Anyone know if I can put my old 10 speed rings on an 11 speed Chorus crankset? The bcd is the same and they look similar. Instead of spending $100 for a big ring I thought I would try the old one from the cracked crankset and see how it works before dropping more dough into the thing.
I don't know about using 10 speed rings on 11 speeds, but I do use an 11 speed crank and rings on a 10 speed setup with no issues. Last I knew, Campy's front Ergo is just a ratchet, not indexed at all, so it's not like the spacing is all that important.
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Also worth noting that paving of most roads is a newer phenomenon than bicycling. Those guys who rode the TdF < 100 years ago - were they NOT roadies?
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Just a guess, but the "roadie" label is probably a more recent development.
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Yeah. I was going to comment on that, but after last nights kerfuffle, I thought better of it.
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How confident are you in quick links? I've never used them on road bikes except for emergency repairs. I'm also neglectful of drivetrain maintenance, except for lubing the chain, and tend to let everything get trashed before I replace anything. Plus, I break things, but usually not chains.
I ask because I need to shorten the chain on my Campagnolo equipped bike. I bought a used crankset in September and the shop installed it for me along with a new chain I had and it has shifted like crap and dropped the chain ever since. I just realized the chain is too long when trying to diagnose the bad performance. I don't have a Campagnolo chain tool or an extra pin and was thinking of just using a quick link to shorten it.
Is there a specific quick link for Campagnolo chains? Anyone know if I can put my old 10 speed rings on an 11 speed Chorus crankset? The bcd is the same and they look similar. Instead of spending $100 for a big ring I thought I would try the old one from the cracked crankset and see how it works before dropping more dough into the thing.
I ask because I need to shorten the chain on my Campagnolo equipped bike. I bought a used crankset in September and the shop installed it for me along with a new chain I had and it has shifted like crap and dropped the chain ever since. I just realized the chain is too long when trying to diagnose the bad performance. I don't have a Campagnolo chain tool or an extra pin and was thinking of just using a quick link to shorten it.
Is there a specific quick link for Campagnolo chains? Anyone know if I can put my old 10 speed rings on an 11 speed Chorus crankset? The bcd is the same and they look similar. Instead of spending $100 for a big ring I thought I would try the old one from the cracked crankset and see how it works before dropping more dough into the thing.
I'm sure if you don't use a Campagnolo pin, installed with a Genuine Campagnolo tool, Tulio will reach out from the grave and visit some evil upon you. So, be careful.
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Well, nobody's using the term "gravelie" yet. Maybe because it would make people think you had a voice like Richard Boone.
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Shimano says single use only. But, all my research suggests that it's okay to use them more than once as long as they are tight and not sloppy/loose fitting. SRAM and KMC don't say anything about it on their packaging, but I would go by the same standard - if they feel loose when in place it is probably time for a new one.