Waxing Chain Just Trend or usefull?
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If only I could be like some of the posters here ... possessing all knowledge ... and yet, still needing to ask questions ....
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Yeah, I'm going to have to play the BS card here, too.
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It's not going to take hours for oil to penetrate the small gaps in a chain -- it's going to happen in seconds, or not at all.
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That's absolutely ridiculous to have to wait for so long before being able to take a bike out for a ride...and the faster solution seems to involve stoves, pots and pans, crockpots and double boilers and the wax doesn't even last that long to justify going through such a long process ....No thanks, I'll stick with my oil based lubes.
If a single application of hot melt wax lasts for almost 900 miles*, to me personally that feels like a long time. But perhaps you relube at much larger intervals?
*Rex** Black Diamond hot wax in dry conditions.
**Rex is a Finnish company btw. They make ski wax too.
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That's absolutely ridiculous to have to wait for so long before being able to take a bike out for a ride...and the faster solution seems to involve stoves, pots and pans, crockpots and double boilers and the wax doesn't even last that long to justify going through such a long process ....No thanks, I'll stick with my oil based lubes.
Hot waxing isn't nearly as complicated as you want to make it seem. The process has been discussed in this thread several times already.
You do need to buy a crock pot (I got mine for $15), but you just turn it on and stick the chain in it on the hard block of wax. Come back in 45 minutes or so and the wax will be melted, swish the chain around for a minute or two in the liquid and then pull it out.
I've never used a stove, pot, pan or double broiler for any of this. I'm not even sure what a double broiler is, TBH.
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Further - wouldn't wet lube just continue to penetrate further into the small gaps as you ride? It doesn't "dry" like wax and moving the parts around seems like it would help this process, not hurt it.
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It's dry to the touch within 30-45 minutes, so you could use it sooner, but a few hours allows the wax that got up into the crevices dry and cure.
The recommended usage is that when you bring your bike in for a ride, you wipe down the chain and apply then and there, so that the next morning, its ready to go.
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In a pinch, 30-45 minutes. Best results 8-12 hours.
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I’m looking forward to trying this.
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Silca says 12-24hrs of dry time is needed for their "Super Secret" drip wax.
Hot wax is easier in this regard - needing only 10-15 minutes to be dry and ready-to-ride. Hot wax is also simpler to apply, in that you just dunk the whole chain in the pot, then pull it out and let it dry. With drip wax you have to apply to each roller on the chain.
Hot wax is easier in this regard - needing only 10-15 minutes to be dry and ready-to-ride. Hot wax is also simpler to apply, in that you just dunk the whole chain in the pot, then pull it out and let it dry. With drip wax you have to apply to each roller on the chain.
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That's absolutely ridiculous to have to wait for so long before being able to take a bike out for a ride...and the faster solution seems to involve stoves, pots and pans, crockpots and double boilers and the wax doesn't even last that long to justify going through such a long process ....No thanks, I'll stick with my oil based lubes.
FWIW, I don't like lima beans. Can't stand them. I get a little nauseous just thinking about them. But it never occurs to me to go to lima bean forums to critique the various methods of cooking them or tell other people how foolish they are for liking lima beans...
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A sloppier outer surface just means the chain will pick up contamination faster. The oil itself lubricates fine whether it's just been applied or has sat around for a couple days.
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Anecdotally speaking: Since I've made the move to wax, first with Squirt, then to Molten Speed Wax via crock-pot method I have yet to wear out a single chain. Sure, I've changed out a few because I switched out derailleurs or gears or something and the new one was the wrong length for the new configuration ...But to actually wear out a chain to 0.5? Nope. Not a single one.
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Silca says 12-24hrs of dry time is needed for their "Super Secret" drip wax.
Hot wax is easier in this regard - needing only 10-15 minutes to be dry and ready-to-ride. Hot wax is also simpler to apply, in that you just dunk the whole chain in the pot, then pull it out and let it dry. With drip wax you have to apply to each roller on the chain.
Hot wax is easier in this regard - needing only 10-15 minutes to be dry and ready-to-ride. Hot wax is also simpler to apply, in that you just dunk the whole chain in the pot, then pull it out and let it dry. With drip wax you have to apply to each roller on the chain.
No doubt hot wax is the gold standard, but drip wax is quicker. That’s why I use it.
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That's absolutely ridiculous to have to wait for so long before being able to take a bike out for a ride...and the faster solution seems to involve stoves, pots and pans, crockpots and double boilers and the wax doesn't even last that long to justify going through such a long process ....No thanks, I'll stick with my oil based lubes.
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Of course you would. Wouldn't want anyone else's experience, manufacturer recommendations, testing, or published data to cloud your omniscience.
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Giant dealer doesn’t stock the Silca. Just placed an online order.
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This is so quintessentially American ... not saying @wolfchild is American, but the attitude .... "What do those 'experts' know? They think they are so smart just because they spent years studying and more years experimenting?"
I have a friend who is a respiratory care worker in an Emergency Room ... people who claimed wearing a mask for an hour would kill you would come in with Covid, forcing him to wear a mask 18 hours day seven days a week for many months ...
Not every "expert" is a genius, and no one is always right ... but the whole "I have always done it this way so it must be the best way" trope would be really funny if it were not so common. Nothing is so American as Willful ignorance, and at a time when we have more information more readily available to us than any person ever in the history of humanity. In the past scholars would travel for months to meet other scholars to learn a twentieth of a percent of what anyone with a phone can learn in half an hour.
All I cna say is that hot wax with a drip wax touch up is good enough for me ... I may be stupid but I am riding.
I have a friend who is a respiratory care worker in an Emergency Room ... people who claimed wearing a mask for an hour would kill you would come in with Covid, forcing him to wear a mask 18 hours day seven days a week for many months ...
Not every "expert" is a genius, and no one is always right ... but the whole "I have always done it this way so it must be the best way" trope would be really funny if it were not so common. Nothing is so American as Willful ignorance, and at a time when we have more information more readily available to us than any person ever in the history of humanity. In the past scholars would travel for months to meet other scholars to learn a twentieth of a percent of what anyone with a phone can learn in half an hour.
All I cna say is that hot wax with a drip wax touch up is good enough for me ... I may be stupid but I am riding.
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