How Do You Deal With Harassment?
#201
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At this point, I either ignore it or *maybe* calmly say something like, "Please put your lights on, it is dark out." or "Please put on your turn signal." But, everyone is so into themselves these days, pretty much ANY suggestion from a stranger is seen as a reason to fight. If they directly engage me for no reason or fault of my own, I will get defensively aggressive and tell them to stop bothering me, go on about their day, or I'll call the police. I'm usually pretty forceful at that point. I also do MOST of my riding in urban areas these days, so lots of other people around. On a country road and if I'm isolated, I just try to move on/get out of there ASAP.
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This post is a case in point, neither part of a solution nor the problem. Just randomly contentious I guess ... but I feel like challenging this notion lest I be deemed "part of the problem" that it entails ...
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I've always hated that quote, because it's logically incoherent and usually used to bully someone into agreement or silence.
This post is a case in point, neither part of a solution nor the problem. Just randomly contentious I guess ... but I feel like challenging this notion lest I be deemed "part of the problem" that it entails ...
This post is a case in point, neither part of a solution nor the problem. Just randomly contentious I guess ... but I feel like challenging this notion lest I be deemed "part of the problem" that it entails ...
Speaking out and challenging wrong, is the first step and least we can do. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm compelled to at least do tat much.
By sitting by and doing nothing, we're contributing to the very problem they claim to oppose. You need to go no further than your local news broadcast to be reminded of that. How many help your neighbor stories do you see a night verses all the carnage and corruption?Deescalation is a strategy, but not always a solution. Trouble can follow you no matter what you do.
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No such thing as over-analyzing! That's just another thing people say when they don't like logical conclusions.
If that were a rational conclusion, then you'd be contributing to every problem in the word because you are not doing anything to solve them.
By sitting by and doing nothing, we're contributing to the very problem they claim to oppose. You need to go no further than your local news broadcast to be reminded of that.
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Ha, ha. Just this past Wednesday around 11am, I was honked at by a tractor-trailor driver. He honked twice before changing lanes and passing me. When I caught up with him, I told him we were in the diamond lane. But he swore at me anyways. So that went well just as if I had just let it go.
Times like these, I wish I had a camera instead so I can call or write to the company instead.
Times like these, I wish I had a camera instead so I can call or write to the company instead.
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Ha, ha. Just this past Wednesday around 11am, I was honked at by a tractor-trailor driver. He honked twice before changing lanes and passing me. When I caught up with him, I told him we were in the diamond lane. But he swore at me anyways. So that went well just as if I had just let it go.
Times like these, I wish I had a camera instead so I can call or write to the company instead.
Times like these, I wish I had a camera instead so I can call or write to the company instead.
Many of them have GPS tracking in their vehicles anyway.
I am in Australia and I tell them that I have been involved in a Workplace incident with one of their field units. They are more scared of the Government department that manages workplace incidents than they are of the police as any workplace incident can lead to a review of their entire workplace.
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Just call them.
Many of them have GPS tracking in their vehicles anyway.
I am in Australia and I tell them that I have been involved in a Workplace incident with one of their field units. They are more scared of the Government department that manages workplace incidents than they are of the police as any workplace incident can lead to a review of their entire workplace.
Many of them have GPS tracking in their vehicles anyway.
I am in Australia and I tell them that I have been involved in a Workplace incident with one of their field units. They are more scared of the Government department that manages workplace incidents than they are of the police as any workplace incident can lead to a review of their entire workplace.
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You're either over-analyzing the phrase and missing the message. I look at it as a call to arms and a reminder that we're all responsible in some measure for the state of our society. When someones says society is messed up, I ask them what have they done lately to make it better.
Speaking out and challenging wrong, is the first step and least we can do. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm compelled to at least do tat much.
By sitting by and doing nothing, we're contributing to the very problem they claim to oppose. You need to go no further than your local news broadcast to be reminded of that. How many help your neighbor stories do you see a night verses all the carnage and corruption?
Speaking out and challenging wrong, is the first step and least we can do. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm compelled to at least do tat much.
By sitting by and doing nothing, we're contributing to the very problem they claim to oppose. You need to go no further than your local news broadcast to be reminded of that. How many help your neighbor stories do you see a night verses all the carnage and corruption?
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"We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. This is the divine mystery supreme. A wonderful thing it is and the source of our happiness. We need not wait to see what others do.” – Mahatma Gandhi.
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Maybe one more incident. Or, if I get serious about adding this 21-mile trail we have here called Springwater A guy was basically mugged there a few months ago and his really nice Colnago stolen by what turned out to be a punk. Anyhow, my morning rides start every day at 0430. A lot of that trail is isolated from streets or any potential help or oversight. A camera might come in handy. You never know...
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Never been harassed so I don't deal with it. I do ride and obey all rules and laws. Many time I enter a 4 way intersection. I prepare to stop, signal etc and 90% of the time, all drivers will wave me through. I think they appreciate a law abiding cyclist.
I also have heard many cyclist complain about drivers. They swear by their cycling but having been on with them on rides, I can see why motorists get upset with them.
I also have heard many cyclist complain about drivers. They swear by their cycling but having been on with them on rides, I can see why motorists get upset with them.
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Only if you want the latest and greatest, which most people won't use even a fraction of the features anyway.
You can pick up a GP3-GP5 for well under $100 on ebay these days. Really anything from the GP2 (720 HD) on is fine if you just want it for 'evidence'.
You can pick up a GP3-GP5 for well under $100 on ebay these days. Really anything from the GP2 (720 HD) on is fine if you just want it for 'evidence'.
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Never been harassed so I don't deal with it. I do ride and obey all rules and laws. Many time I enter a 4 way intersection. I prepare to stop, signal etc and 90% of the time, all drivers will wave me through. I think they appreciate a law abiding cyclist.
I also have heard many cyclist complain about drivers. They swear by their cycling but having been on with them on rides, I can see why motorists get upset with them.
I also have heard many cyclist complain about drivers. They swear by their cycling but having been on with them on rides, I can see why motorists get upset with them.
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Never been harassed so I don't deal with it. I do ride and obey all rules and laws. Many time I enter a 4 way intersection. I prepare to stop, signal etc and 90% of the time, all drivers will wave me through. I think they appreciate a law abiding cyclist.
I also have heard many cyclist complain about drivers. They swear by their cycling but having been on with them on rides, I can see why motorists get upset with them.
I also have heard many cyclist complain about drivers. They swear by their cycling but having been on with them on rides, I can see why motorists get upset with them.
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I just spent 2 1/2 hours riding in town in the rain, half of it during rush hour. I had no fewer than five vehicles pause to let me go, defer to me at a stop/light when they had the right of way, or just completely stop in the middle of the road to let me cross a busy street with no light for me. That's the flip side of the harassment story. All the drivers, personal and commercial, who go out of their way to be cautious around cyclists and to help us when they can. There are a lot of them and we ought not forget them.
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i just spent 2 1/2 hours riding in town in the rain, half of it during rush hour. I had no fewer than five vehicles pause to let me go, defer to me at a stop/light when they had the right of way, or just completely stop in the middle of the road to let me cross a busy street with no light for me. That's the flip side of the harassment story. All the drivers, personal and commercial, who go out of their way to be cautious around cyclists and to help us when they can. There are a lot of them and we ought not forget them.
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I just spent 2 1/2 hours riding in town in the rain, half of it during rush hour. I had no fewer than five vehicles pause to let me go, defer to me at a stop/light when they had the right of way, or just completely stop in the middle of the road to let me cross a busy street with no light for me. That's the flip side of the harassment story. All the drivers, personal and commercial, who go out of their way to be cautious around cyclists and to help us when they can. There are a lot of them and we ought not forget them.
However, some people right here in the BikeForums discussion forums don't as they refer to them as Niceholes.
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I just spent 2 1/2 hours riding in town in the rain, half of it during rush hour. I had no fewer than five vehicles pause to let me go, defer to me at a stop/light when they had the right of way, or just completely stop in the middle of the road to let me cross a busy street with no light for me. That's the flip side of the harassment story. All the drivers, personal and commercial, who go out of their way to be cautious around cyclists and to help us when they can. There are a lot of them and we ought not forget them.
Of course, just a few hours later, when I took the center lane on a road that divided left and right, the center lane going to the left, some jerk from behind honks at me, goes into the left lane, zooms ahead of me, then pops into the right lane. He just couldn't stand the thought of passing me on the right for some reason even though I was several feet to the left, and decided it was better to cross my lane twice. No one else around, either. Rocket scientist, I guess.
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I don't like the term, but there are situations where this courtesy is actually worse than unhelpful. People doing it sometimes don't realize they're actually cutting off a line of sight on another lane or they can't see another lane where there are cars approaching. I have had to actually flag someone through, insisting they need to move first, which I suspect the driver thinks is kind of rude on my part, but if I can't see around them, I can't go without putting myself at severe risk.