Totally Tubular
#3101
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: San Diego
Posts: 710
Bikes: 1978 Bruce Gordon, 1977 Lippy, 199? Lippy tandem, Bike Friday NWT, 1982 Trek 720, 2012 Rivendell Atlantis, 1983 Bianchi Specialissima?
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 347 Post(s)
Liked 178 Times
in
109 Posts
I think I hit the same offer:
One roll does 2 rims.
https://www.merlincycles.com/velox-j...ape-81504.html
2023 May 21st
Merlin Cycles
Jantex tub tape white £3.59 (instead of £7.99)
Just checked the link and price hasn't changed Merlin Cycles
Jantex tub tape white £3.59 (instead of £7.99)
One roll does 2 rims.
https://www.merlincycles.com/velox-j...ape-81504.html
#3102
Newbie
no good? considering some sealant to get some more use of out of this one, but the sides feel a bit crinkly when flexed.
#3103
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,725
Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1959 Post(s)
Liked 2,051 Times
in
1,124 Posts
Take it easy on that one!
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
Likes For Classtime:
#3104
Freewheel Medic
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Posts: 12,901
Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)
Mentioned: 141 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1463 Post(s)
Liked 2,220 Times
in
973 Posts
awrycycle try painting latex (the kind used by makeup artists) on the side walls, as well. You should be able to extend the life for another thousand miles or more.
__________________
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
Likes For pastorbobnlnh:
Likes For MooneyBloke:
#3106
Standard Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brunswick, Maine
Posts: 4,280
Bikes: 1948 P. Barnard & Son, 1962 Rudge Sports, 1963 Freddie Grubb Routier, 1980 Manufrance Hirondelle, 1983 F. Moser Sprint, 1989 Raleigh Technium Pre, 2001 Raleigh M80
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1301 Post(s)
Liked 942 Times
in
490 Posts
I just have to ask: What is the rationale for even considering using the tire in post #3102? If that had been a clincher, I would have thrown it out a year ago, even with a wire bead.
__________________
"In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun, and - SNAP - the job's a game!"
"In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun, and - SNAP - the job's a game!"
Likes For 1989Pre:
#3107
Freewheel Medic
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Posts: 12,901
Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)
Mentioned: 141 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1463 Post(s)
Liked 2,220 Times
in
973 Posts
However, some folks don't even seem to understand Smilies. Just look at the post after my response. The member thought I was being serious. I was just trying to go along with the original humor.
__________________
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
#3108
Standard Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brunswick, Maine
Posts: 4,280
Bikes: 1948 P. Barnard & Son, 1962 Rudge Sports, 1963 Freddie Grubb Routier, 1980 Manufrance Hirondelle, 1983 F. Moser Sprint, 1989 Raleigh Technium Pre, 2001 Raleigh M80
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1301 Post(s)
Liked 942 Times
in
490 Posts
I'm pretty certain awrycycle was being "funny" (in a dry humor sort of way) about continuing to use that tubular. A or a could have been a helpful clue.
However, some folks don't even seem to understand Smilies. Just look at the post after my response. The member thought I was being serious. I was just trying to go along with the original humor.
However, some folks don't even seem to understand Smilies. Just look at the post after my response. The member thought I was being serious. I was just trying to go along with the original humor.
__________________
"In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun, and - SNAP - the job's a game!"
"In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun, and - SNAP - the job's a game!"
Likes For 1989Pre:
#3110
Old Legs
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Mass.
Posts: 1,212
Bikes: '80 Strayvaigin, '84 Ciocc Aelle-Shimano 105, '90 Concorde Astore /Campy Triple ,85 Bridgestone 500/Suntour, 2005 Jamis Quest, 2017 Raleigh Merit 1, Raleigh Carbon Clubman
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 302 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times
in
22 Posts
Hello Tubular fans, Question, I saw a tubeless tire repair kit, on Cycling News. Question ,could this be used to patch a tub on the road ? The reason I ask, is I had a Tufo S33, that had a very small puncture. The Stan's sealant did not seal very well, but did stop enough to get me home. Air it up and held air . Once on the road, it opened up again. I stopped, put the tub down (6 O'clock) , the leak sealed , only to open again. I inspected the tub, and found nothing at the puncture site . So, in the trash , the tire went . I am, now using Tufo sealant in my tubs.
Thanks so much for your replies.
Thanks so much for your replies.
Likes For kcblair:
#3111
Standard Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brunswick, Maine
Posts: 4,280
Bikes: 1948 P. Barnard & Son, 1962 Rudge Sports, 1963 Freddie Grubb Routier, 1980 Manufrance Hirondelle, 1983 F. Moser Sprint, 1989 Raleigh Technium Pre, 2001 Raleigh M80
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1301 Post(s)
Liked 942 Times
in
490 Posts
Hello Tubular fans, Question, I saw a tubeless tire repair kit, on Cycling News. Question ,could this be used to patch a tub on the road ? The reason I ask, is I had a Tufo S33, that had a very small puncture. The Stan's sealant did not seal very well, but did stop enough to get me home. Air it up and held air . Once on the road, it opened up again. I stopped, put the tub down (6 O'clock) , the leak sealed , only to open again. I inspected the tub, and found nothing at the puncture site . So, in the trash , the tire went . I am, now using Tufo sealant in my tubs.
Thanks so much for your replies.
Thanks so much for your replies.
__________________
"In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun, and - SNAP - the job's a game!"
"In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun, and - SNAP - the job's a game!"
#3112
Freewheel Medic
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Posts: 12,901
Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)
Mentioned: 141 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1463 Post(s)
Liked 2,220 Times
in
973 Posts
In my limited experience with using leak stopper such as Stans, Tufo, etc., be careful because if your bike is parked long enough, the sealant migrates to the lowest point and the sealant hardens, which In turn ruins the tube and tire balance.
__________________
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
#3113
Full Member
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: "Driftless" WI
Posts: 399
Bikes: 1972 Motobecane Grand Record, 2022 Kona Dew+
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 167 Post(s)
Liked 150 Times
in
111 Posts
It's certainly easier to patch a tubular when not out on the road but I've done it, once, decades ago. Takes patience, a job not to be rushed else it's likely that in your haste you'll do more damage. My take is better to have a spare tubed tire ready to swap for the leaker then save the repair job for later once you're back to shelter.
PastorBob's comment makes me a little more reluctant to try getting sealant into any of the tubulars I have on hand now. Winter's coming, neither of my two rides will see much use once temps get to 40°F or below for the days' high. With them idle for a few months I don't want to get either out next spring only to find I have a hard spot throwing a wheel out of balance.
I have plans to build a set of clinchers over winter for the Motobecane that's worn tubulars since... forever. As much for the different experience of riding on them for casual, recreational use as for the easier operation of swapping in a fresh tube if I should suffer a puncture down some road. Tubes are lighter, easier to bring along 'just in case' than a tubular tire.
#3114
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 4,725
Bikes: 82 Medici, 2011 Richard Sachs, 2011 Milwaukee Road
Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1959 Post(s)
Liked 2,051 Times
in
1,124 Posts
I think TL repair kits use a plug. To use on a tubular, you would have to get the plug into the puncture of the tube in a tubular tire and it would have to stay there while you are riding? Not likely to work.
__________________
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
I don't do: disks, tubeless, e-shifting, or bead head nymphs.
#3115
It's MY mountain
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 10,004
Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4346 Post(s)
Liked 3,007 Times
in
1,631 Posts
kcblair give it a go and take good notes and photos and come back here with your report. Nice to have a new topic inside this thread.
Likes For DiabloScott:
#3116
Old Legs
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Mass.
Posts: 1,212
Bikes: '80 Strayvaigin, '84 Ciocc Aelle-Shimano 105, '90 Concorde Astore /Campy Triple ,85 Bridgestone 500/Suntour, 2005 Jamis Quest, 2017 Raleigh Merit 1, Raleigh Carbon Clubman
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 302 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times
in
22 Posts
The question was for Tufo, which is a tubeless tubular. So I think it might work, certainly worth a shot if the alternative is to trash bin an otherwise good tire.
kcblair give it a go and take good notes and photos and come back here with your report. Nice to have a new topic inside this thread.
kcblair give it a go and take good notes and photos and come back here with your report. Nice to have a new topic inside this thread.
#3117
Old Legs
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Mass.
Posts: 1,212
Bikes: '80 Strayvaigin, '84 Ciocc Aelle-Shimano 105, '90 Concorde Astore /Campy Triple ,85 Bridgestone 500/Suntour, 2005 Jamis Quest, 2017 Raleigh Merit 1, Raleigh Carbon Clubman
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 302 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times
in
22 Posts
Tufo tubular are one piece, no inner tube. The reason I'm tossing this idea out here. Thanks. KB
#3118
Old Legs
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Mass.
Posts: 1,212
Bikes: '80 Strayvaigin, '84 Ciocc Aelle-Shimano 105, '90 Concorde Astore /Campy Triple ,85 Bridgestone 500/Suntour, 2005 Jamis Quest, 2017 Raleigh Merit 1, Raleigh Carbon Clubman
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 302 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times
in
22 Posts
At age 76, I don't have the strength to mount a spare on the road. My son had to help my get the replacement on and stretched . In order to use up my stock of tubs , I only have 3 options on the road, hope Tufo sealant will hold, try a tubeless plug, or call 911 (the support vehicle , i.e. the wife ) . I might test a plug on the leaking tub I just removed. I still have a set of Conti's mounted, to use.
Thanks so much.KB
#3119
Standard Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Brunswick, Maine
Posts: 4,280
Bikes: 1948 P. Barnard & Son, 1962 Rudge Sports, 1963 Freddie Grubb Routier, 1980 Manufrance Hirondelle, 1983 F. Moser Sprint, 1989 Raleigh Technium Pre, 2001 Raleigh M80
Mentioned: 26 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1301 Post(s)
Liked 942 Times
in
490 Posts
Important information for me. That does it: I'm going to start carrying a spare tire.
__________________
"In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun, and - SNAP - the job's a game!"
"In every job that must be done, there is an element of fun. You find the fun, and - SNAP - the job's a game!"
#3120
Old Legs
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Mass.
Posts: 1,212
Bikes: '80 Strayvaigin, '84 Ciocc Aelle-Shimano 105, '90 Concorde Astore /Campy Triple ,85 Bridgestone 500/Suntour, 2005 Jamis Quest, 2017 Raleigh Merit 1, Raleigh Carbon Clubman
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 302 Post(s)
Liked 33 Times
in
22 Posts
Hey guys, just watched a YT vid on this product from Muc-off "Stealth Tubeless Puncture Plug 75% Off × 1" This, I'm sure will solved the problem, using Tufo tubs, as they are tubeless. KB
#3121
“Senior” Member
There are lots of ways to handle a flat in a tubular tire on the road (this is a disclaimer!).
My choice is this: I carry a spare tubular tire under my seat and a single canister of compressed air and one of those inflator heads that just screw on to the canister threaded top.
I have not actually weighed that all up but do not think it would weigh much more or less than what I carry for my clincher bikes (a seat bag, spare tube, tire lever, same inflation system, and a tire patch for deep cuts).
Changing a tire out on the road is quick and easy and for me quicker than a clincher flat tube change. Rip one off and throw the other one on. No need to check a clincher out for embedded glass or thorns, make sure the new tube won’t pinch flat and the valve is vertical, etc.
With a proper glue (or tape) job the removal should be easy, just push it off to start then it goes fast.
I then patch the flat at home. Since I patch I don’t use any sealant because of the mess.
Of course remove and remount a tire at home first if you’re new at it to make sure you can physically do it.
Last disclaimer: i rotate my rides between six bikes. The bike that I am on is always my favorite bike, all for different reasons. Three are clincher setups and three are tubular setups. I always find riding the tubulars to be a much more sublime experience. For one, that’s how those bikes were sold. For two …(there is no two …it’s probably all in my head).
My choice is this: I carry a spare tubular tire under my seat and a single canister of compressed air and one of those inflator heads that just screw on to the canister threaded top.
I have not actually weighed that all up but do not think it would weigh much more or less than what I carry for my clincher bikes (a seat bag, spare tube, tire lever, same inflation system, and a tire patch for deep cuts).
Changing a tire out on the road is quick and easy and for me quicker than a clincher flat tube change. Rip one off and throw the other one on. No need to check a clincher out for embedded glass or thorns, make sure the new tube won’t pinch flat and the valve is vertical, etc.
With a proper glue (or tape) job the removal should be easy, just push it off to start then it goes fast.
I then patch the flat at home. Since I patch I don’t use any sealant because of the mess.
Of course remove and remount a tire at home first if you’re new at it to make sure you can physically do it.
Last disclaimer: i rotate my rides between six bikes. The bike that I am on is always my favorite bike, all for different reasons. Three are clincher setups and three are tubular setups. I always find riding the tubulars to be a much more sublime experience. For one, that’s how those bikes were sold. For two …(there is no two …it’s probably all in my head).
Likes For obuckler:
#3122
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Point Reyes Station, California
Posts: 4,540
Bikes: Indeed!
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1514 Post(s)
Liked 3,489 Times
in
1,139 Posts
Brent
__________________
"I have a tendency to meander sometimes." B.G.
"I have a tendency to meander sometimes." B.G.
#3123
WGB
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Niagara Region
Posts: 2,937
Bikes: Panasonic PT-4500
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1808 Post(s)
Liked 2,356 Times
in
1,389 Posts
obrentharris and pastorbobnlnh
Thank you. I was just about to post the question
"How long is too long for tubulars to sit with sealant?"
In late August I installed brand new Continental Competitions and they were not cheap!
Within 100 miles I had a pinhole leak. I added Orange Seal inspite of warnings from friends that it would harden in my tire. I calculated it was better to have some life out of the tire than no life.
I'd still like to see more than two-three months of riding on this tire.
I live in Southern Ontario and wonder if the sealant gets cold enough and freezes, will it harden and stay hard?
If I take each bike and spin the wheels once each month for say twenty to thirty revolutions will that be enough? I can't really ride a road bike here between say mid December until early April. I don't really have a place to store wheels in the house.
Thank you. I was just about to post the question
"How long is too long for tubulars to sit with sealant?"
In late August I installed brand new Continental Competitions and they were not cheap!
Within 100 miles I had a pinhole leak. I added Orange Seal inspite of warnings from friends that it would harden in my tire. I calculated it was better to have some life out of the tire than no life.
I'd still like to see more than two-three months of riding on this tire.
I live in Southern Ontario and wonder if the sealant gets cold enough and freezes, will it harden and stay hard?
If I take each bike and spin the wheels once each month for say twenty to thirty revolutions will that be enough? I can't really ride a road bike here between say mid December until early April. I don't really have a place to store wheels in the house.
#3124
“Senior” Member
(Removed double post. Oops)
#3125
Full Member
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 474
Bikes: Two Peter Mooney customs, a 1980 Trek 510 townie, a Marin Stelvio set up for TTs.
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 230 Post(s)
Liked 300 Times
in
164 Posts
One thing I have noticed is if you try to patch a tube with Stan's later on, it's a bit of a bugger getting the tube to lie in a way you want to stick on the patch.
All that being said, Stan's has gotten me home on three occasions without wasting a CO₂ cartridge, so I'm reluctant to give it up.
Last edited by MooneyBloke; 10-10-23 at 06:37 PM.