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Old 05-07-22, 02:19 PM
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Can I have one of your bikes
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
My question for all:
Is ranking bikes more a function of frame/fork characteristics or the touch components that make it fit & feel & ride perfect for one's style of riding?
edit: ...and the tire differences.

Or the drivetrain... many folks' rankings show 8/9/10/11 speed - that surely changes the overall impression, esp for a classic race type bike that may get rated on speed, or ability to hang with the A level rides.
For me it really is what joy it gives me on the road, how it feels during the ride. Everything else is secondary. I will say as I downsized a bunch over the last couple of years I have tended to keep the more modern setups. Not really as a goal but I think each time I thought about what to sell age, and body issues came into play. Knees are jacked although they still don't bother me riding. But I worry about them now and figure more gears and spinning is safer for them. Then with the separated shoulder now compromised it bugs me while riding sometimes so I guess less reaching for ST shifters maybe better. And then I've noticed when the jacked up joint in my left thumb is bothering me I like to keep pressure off it while riding. So there too, shifting away from lot of DT use. Of course now I've got arthritis in other finger joints so more to consider I guess.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
Can I have one of your bikes
A couple are for sale in Utah, this boy ain't shipping. Come on over!

Or buy this off Ebay, I built this two winters ago. He's made some minor changes but it's still a beauty.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275289996892?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D201609081050 57%26meid%3Def3eef6f89c84bbabae3edb10d65fd65%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D255439645740% 26itm%3D275289996892%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DCampagnolo&_trksid=p2380057.c10067 5.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A1023eb77-ce69-11ec-b679-42137a914cf3%7Cparentrq%3Aa126d3221800a120d455f21cfffc561c%7Ciid%3A14


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Originally Posted by USAZorro
You might want to consider acquiring a second vintage bicycle.
Funny thing is most of those are closing in on 30 years old....
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
For me it really is what joy it gives me on the road, how it feels during the ride.
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Joy - It is sort of an intangible, eh.
I still run vintage as friction downtube & threaded steel forks = the glue for my classic ethos.

Gimme categories. Racing / Sport touring / Other - given my collection. Then I might attempt a ranking.

I haven't invested like you, but if I did = Campy Record 10 (from around '04) on all, and triple on more than a few. Short shallow bars instead of traditional Cinelli rounds, would be my concession to age.
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Originally Posted by jdawginsc
My ranking system is a bit simpler...

...I love all my bikes equally. It would be like ranking children...!
I've only got two children so that would be easier.
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I've only got two children so that would be easier.
Me too...
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Originally Posted by repechage
Too much work to rank 47 bikes in my size and a short synopsis.
Don't worry about the ranking; let's see all 47!
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Originally Posted by microcord
Don't worry about the ranking; let's see all 47!
That would be telling.
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Originally Posted by jamesdak
Yeah, I love dressing in all hot pink and taking this beast out to slay the C.F riding younger crowd. Now as I get older and slower I might not be able to justify the pink. LOL!
real riders can always justify pink....or whatever bright colors that meet your fancy
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
My question for all:
Is ranking bikes more a function of frame/fork characteristics or the touch components that make it fit & feel & ride perfect for one's style of riding?
edit: ...and the tire differences.

Or the drivetrain... many folks' rankings show 8/9/10/11 speed - that surely changes the overall impression, esp for a classic race type bike that may get rated on speed, or ability to hang with the A level rides.
Good question.... and I am not 100% clear on how I would answer

Hands down the best riding, most magic feel from any bike I have ridden has been on my period dura ace friction shift 84 team miyata (double butted tubing) with wheelset with sanshin hubs, mavic gel330 rims and challenge elite pro tires 25mm at 130 psi. that wheelset is bit light for me so I ride it mostly with a dura ace hub, mavic ma40 clinchet and panracer Gravel kings in 28. it is still really nice ride with the heavier wheelset, but not as magjc

my 85 team miyata (triple butted tubing) is is the very close second in ride either with 28mm GP5000 clincher (tubed) or Vittoria 30m Corsa Control Tubular, but it is my daily driver and go to bike with the range and convenience of 105 5800 11speed.

So it is combination and what IMHO cannot be discounted is the impact of light wheelset with good tires (the 84 team with some super heavy bontrager 25mm tires and thick thorn resistant tubes felt like a old truck, simple change to gravel kings 28mm and conti racel lite tubes completely changed it)
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
My question for all:
Is ranking bikes more a function of frame/fork characteristics or the touch components that make it fit & feel & ride perfect for one's style of riding?
edit: ...and the tire differences.

Or the drivetrain... many folks' rankings show 8/9/10/11 speed - that surely changes the overall impression, esp for a classic race type bike that may get rated on speed, or ability to hang with the A level rides.
Excellent point.

Wheels and groups can really bring a good frame out of the time-travel unintended doldrums.
My current attraction to C&V frames is the potential performance I think I can wring out of them with modern stuff.
The more I do this, the more respect I have for the craftsmen who built them, lately Rossin and Marinoni.

When I rank mine, I rank the current package based on it's present performance as a bike vs. my others.
I know this dilutes my credibility in some C&V ways. I'm fine with that, don't deserve what I don't serve.

I ride with other riders that are 100% on modern bikes.
Cool, but no one stops them to ask about their bikes.
Every time, for years, on organized rides. Can't beat it.
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