Can't figure out this dilemma
#26
I'm sure you can mount a SPD cleat on a pair of these. You'll need them to call up CAA if you flat, they offer services for cyclists now you know.

What's that? I will not change it myself! How rude.

What's that? I will not change it myself! How rude.
#31
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i just had a brilliant idea !
my LBS has Shimano MO86 i can just go there, put them on, and try walking !
i can't. i am a natural born ******bag. i have an aero package on my car as well, all factory though, no aftermarket.
that's too much thinking ? you aint seen nothing yet. check out my website at your own risk !
https://www.diy-av.net/forum/
because i never accept facts without thoroughly examining them.
this is probably true. but it goes against the mechanic's golden rule - if it ain't broke don't fix it. right now my bike ain't broke. to learn how to fix it i would have to well, fix it. i am afraid i might break it in the process - like damage derailleur or something.
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too bad i am not a 13 year old girl and could care less what anybody thinks of me 
i already do. the problem is i come from bodybuilding / powerlifting background and i have some sort of a mental block against "aerobics" because powerlifters despise that. now of course the entire point of biking is aerobics but i still try to build some resistance training into it. to me the idea of exercise without resistance is revolting. even when i was doing swimming i managed to adjust my freestyle stroke to the point of completely destroying both my shoulders in a matter of weeks. there is a quite strong parallel between the way i used to swim and the way i am biking now.
i know which article of mine you should read ! this one:
https://www.diy-av.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=431
speaking of knee problems. any anecdotal evidence on SPD vs SPD-SL or LOOK ?
my LBS has Shimano MO86 i can just go there, put them on, and try walking !
i can't. i am a natural born ******bag. i have an aero package on my car as well, all factory though, no aftermarket.
that's too much thinking ? you aint seen nothing yet. check out my website at your own risk !
https://www.diy-av.net/forum/
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https://www.diy-av.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=431
speaking of knee problems. any anecdotal evidence on SPD vs SPD-SL or LOOK ?
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#32
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Seriously guys, check out his website (https://www.diy-av.net/forum/) and then reconsider if you want to continue this conversation...
#33
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my speed may not be high but the force i apply to my pedals is high. i usually ride on the 12 tooth cog on the cassette ( with 53 crank ) and that's only because i haven't yet purchased a cassette that has an 11 tooth cog. the main reason i switched to a real road bike is for the 53 tooth crank.
when briefly passing somebody i will almost certainly put down more force on the pedals than even TDF pros simply because i weigh much more and my muscle is mostly fast twitch. so i don't see why i should settle for an inferior shoe or pedal.
when briefly passing somebody i will almost certainly put down more force on the pedals than even TDF pros simply because i weigh much more and my muscle is mostly fast twitch. so i don't see why i should settle for an inferior shoe or pedal.
BTW high end MTB shoes such as most Sidi models are NOT inferior biking shoes but are about as stiff and effective as road shoes and are used by quite a few road riders who prefer being able to walk around reasonably comfortably when stopped.
Learning to fix a tire puncture should take less than 1/2 hour or so and could save a lot longer walk. IMO any bike rider who is not willing to learn minor maintenance is not serious about biking. You do not want to try even a 1 mile walk in road shoes and cleats. They are not designed for walking and road cleats are plastic typically and wear fairly fast when walked on much.
On exercise rides do not worry so much about aerodynamics. Poor aero just makes you work a little harder, increasing the amount of exercise you do.
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#35
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i can always get Ergo or S-Works shoe when i win the lottery
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#39
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Is this a joke? I know I haven't been a member for all that long, but this puts most of the stupid posts (and posters) on this board to shame. If this isn't a troll, the OP won't be riding much longer and as such won't be around to wow us with his stupidity, I suppose.
EDIT: After glancing over his website, I am doubly convinced this is a troll, and in reality some total social reject living in his mom's basement who gets his kicks off of trolling strangers on the internet when cheetos and mountain dew loose their potency.
EDIT: After glancing over his website, I am doubly convinced this is a troll, and in reality some total social reject living in his mom's basement who gets his kicks off of trolling strangers on the internet when cheetos and mountain dew loose their potency.
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#42
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Duh. You wanna grind along in some huge ass gear thinking you are being tough, you just trashing your knees for no good reason. But, I doubt you even ride, your position is so ludicrous and disconnected from reality.
#43
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i started experiencing serious problems with joints when i was a bodybuilder. in particular my elbows. i didn't start to experience knee pain until i returned to biking last year. but i know this is no laughing matter and i am willing to change my riding style if that's what my joints need. i first heard that riding with this type of gearing is bad for my knees a few weeks ago when i was trying to explain to the salesman in the bike shop what type of bike i am looking for. it's slowly sinking into my brain. the forces even in the last gear are still quite low compared to the forces involved in powerlifting so i didn't think it was a problem. i thought my knee pain was more a result of too much repetition like carpal tunnel or something, rather than too much force.
if there is strong consensus that high cadence is easier on the knees i will work on that.
also i am grateful to be able to learn by being here. i joined this forum because it helped me when i was shopping for a bike recently. i love forums but i am new to biking forums. i only posted on a bike forum ( mountain bike forum, back when i had a mountain bike ) once in the past when i was shopping for a bike carrier roof rack. i got a great advice back then and very happy with my roof rack. i hope to get great advice here on my road biking as well.
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#45
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very true. i was just thinking about it yesterday.
in USSR on bicycles there were no helmets and no brakes. the only brake they had was if you spun the pedals backwards it would lock up the rear wheel using some sort rotational inertia or something. it wasn't very useful for stopping but you could do various kinds of slides with it - most kids on my block could do them.
in USSR on bicycles there were no helmets and no brakes. the only brake they had was if you spun the pedals backwards it would lock up the rear wheel using some sort rotational inertia or something. it wasn't very useful for stopping but you could do various kinds of slides with it - most kids on my block could do them.
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very true. i was just thinking about it yesterday.
in USSR on bicycles there were no helmets and no brakes. the only brake they had was if you spun the pedals backwards it would lock up the rear wheel using some sort rotational inertia or something. it wasn't very useful for stopping but you could do various kinds of slides with it - most kids on my block could do them.
in USSR on bicycles there were no helmets and no brakes. the only brake they had was if you spun the pedals backwards it would lock up the rear wheel using some sort rotational inertia or something. it wasn't very useful for stopping but you could do various kinds of slides with it - most kids on my block could do them.
#48
very true. i was just thinking about it yesterday.
in USSR on bicycles there were no helmets and no brakes. the only brake they had was if you spun the pedals backwards it would lock up the rear wheel using some sort rotational inertia or something. it wasn't very useful for stopping but you could do various kinds of slides with it - most kids on my block could do them.
in USSR on bicycles there were no helmets and no brakes. the only brake they had was if you spun the pedals backwards it would lock up the rear wheel using some sort rotational inertia or something. it wasn't very useful for stopping but you could do various kinds of slides with it - most kids on my block could do them.

The mandatory: In Russia the bike rides you! lol
#50
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From: The Darkside......
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Keith, you need click the link provided, read through some of the posts. Pay very close attention to the username that he uses for that site, which is, wait for it......... troll






