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Old 03-24-10 | 06:15 PM
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I'm sure you can mount a SPD cleat on a pair of these. You'll need them to call up CAA if you flat, they offer services for cyclists now you know.

What's that? I will not change it myself! How rude.
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Old 03-24-10 | 06:18 PM
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Can't believe no one has suggested this yet:

LOOK OUT! These r-sys are gonna explode if I drop below 55mph!
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Old 03-24-10 | 06:33 PM
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I think OP and *****3nin.vend3t should talk. It will be hilarious!
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Old 03-24-10 | 07:56 PM
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I think OP and *****3nin.vend3t should talk. It will be hilarious!
не умничай !
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Old 03-24-10 | 07:57 PM
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I think this says it all.

that's exactly what i am trying to avoid !
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Old 03-24-10 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by njkayaker
Anyway, MTB shoes can be pretty stiff and fairly easy to walk in.
i just had a brilliant idea !

my LBS has Shimano MO86 i can just go there, put them on, and try walking !


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Ignore the aerodynamic issues.
i can't. i am a natural born ******bag. i have an aero package on my car as well, all factory though, no aftermarket.

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You are spending too much time thinking about this.
that's too much thinking ? you aint seen nothing yet. check out my website at your own risk !

https://www.diy-av.net/forum/

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You obviously don't have a lot of experience. Why are you arguing against people who have lots of experience?
because i never accept facts without thoroughly examining them.

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Fixing flats is easy. There is no rational reason for a regular rider not to know how to do this.
this is probably true. but it goes against the mechanic's golden rule - if it ain't broke don't fix it. right now my bike ain't broke. to learn how to fix it i would have to well, fix it. i am afraid i might break it in the process - like damage derailleur or something.

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No dobut, you are a joy to everybody you meet! Anyway, arguing with people with experience when you don't have any, doesn't make you look too smart (I'm mean that in the nicest way).
too bad i am not a 13 year old girl and could care less what anybody thinks of me

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You are using too high a gear. Keep doing that if you want knee problems!
i already do. the problem is i come from bodybuilding / powerlifting background and i have some sort of a mental block against "aerobics" because powerlifters despise that. now of course the entire point of biking is aerobics but i still try to build some resistance training into it. to me the idea of exercise without resistance is revolting. even when i was doing swimming i managed to adjust my freestyle stroke to the point of completely destroying both my shoulders in a matter of weeks. there is a quite strong parallel between the way i used to swim and the way i am biking now.

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You don't know much about bicycling. Don't argue with people until you learn more.
i know which article of mine you should read ! this one:

https://www.diy-av.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=431

speaking of knee problems. any anecdotal evidence on SPD vs SPD-SL or LOOK ?

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Old 03-24-10 | 08:53 PM
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Seriously guys, check out his website (https://www.diy-av.net/forum/) and then reconsider if you want to continue this conversation...
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Old 03-24-10 | 09:48 PM
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my speed may not be high but the force i apply to my pedals is high. i usually ride on the 12 tooth cog on the cassette ( with 53 crank ) and that's only because i haven't yet purchased a cassette that has an 11 tooth cog. the main reason i switched to a real road bike is for the 53 tooth crank.

when briefly passing somebody i will almost certainly put down more force on the pedals than even TDF pros simply because i weigh much more and my muscle is mostly fast twitch. so i don't see why i should settle for an inferior shoe or pedal.
Unless you ride quite fast all the time what you are doing is rough on the knees and not the best cardio workout. You want to spin at a minimum of about 80 crank RPM as much as possible normally. Get a bike computer with cadence to help develop your spinning ability. Unless you can output about 400 watts for an hour and well over 1000 short term you are not in TDF rider territory.

BTW high end MTB shoes such as most Sidi models are NOT inferior biking shoes but are about as stiff and effective as road shoes and are used by quite a few road riders who prefer being able to walk around reasonably comfortably when stopped.

Learning to fix a tire puncture should take less than 1/2 hour or so and could save a lot longer walk. IMO any bike rider who is not willing to learn minor maintenance is not serious about biking. You do not want to try even a 1 mile walk in road shoes and cleats. They are not designed for walking and road cleats are plastic typically and wear fairly fast when walked on much.

On exercise rides do not worry so much about aerodynamics. Poor aero just makes you work a little harder, increasing the amount of exercise you do.
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Old 03-24-10 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT
не умничай !
In the infamous words of UMD......: fail
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Old 03-24-10 | 10:14 PM
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Unless you can output about 400 watts for an hour and well over 1000 short term you are not in TDF rider territory.
when i was 21-23 i used to take steroids and lift weights 20 hours a week. about the time i developed heart hypertrophy. heart hypertrophy is basically when the muscle in the heart is so big that there is no room left for the blood itself. as a result i have a resting heart rate of 90 BPM. i think we can both agree i don't have to worry about TDF

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BTW high end MTB shoes such as most Sidi models are NOT inferior biking shoes but are about as stiff and effective as road shoes and are used by quite a few road riders who prefer being able to walk around reasonably comfortably when stopped.
not sure why i would want to walk around. and if i wanted to stretch or something i could do it on the grass i suppose. also since we both agree i am not TDF material i think i will stick to $100 range shoes and not even consider SIDIs. I was mostly debating shimano 86 road shoe vs shimano 86 mountain shoe. when i tried flexing them in the store they were both rather pliable compared to SIDI, but about 20 times stiffer than my reebok sneakers in which i currently ride, and 3 times cheaper than SIDIs. just seems like a good point on the cost / benefit diminishing return curve ?

i can always get Ergo or S-Works shoe when i win the lottery

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Old 03-24-10 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
I keep an extra bicycle strapped to my back. You know, just in case.
Finally, somebody else who keeps the same ideas about being prepared as me.

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I think this says it all.

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Old 03-25-10 | 01:51 AM
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Hmmm, checking back a day after my last post in this thread. Survey says...

At least a half dozen bewildered responders!
My hat is off to you, NEURO, whoever you may actually be.
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Old 03-25-10 | 09:08 AM
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i am a natural born ******bag.
So true!
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Old 03-25-10 | 04:59 PM
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Is this a joke? I know I haven't been a member for all that long, but this puts most of the stupid posts (and posters) on this board to shame. If this isn't a troll, the OP won't be riding much longer and as such won't be around to wow us with his stupidity, I suppose.

EDIT: After glancing over his website, I am doubly convinced this is a troll, and in reality some total social reject living in his mom's basement who gets his kicks off of trolling strangers on the internet when cheetos and mountain dew loose their potency.

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Old 03-25-10 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by deep_sky
If this isn't a troll, the OP won't be riding much longer
why ? because of the knees ?
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Old 03-25-10 | 09:02 PM
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why ? because of the knees ?
*knocks knuckles on neurosports skull*

Hellooooo? Hello?? Anybody home? Think McFly, think....

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Old 03-25-10 | 09:23 PM
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Duh. You wanna grind along in some huge ass gear thinking you are being tough, you just trashing your knees for no good reason. But, I doubt you even ride, your position is so ludicrous and disconnected from reality.
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Old 03-26-10 | 12:44 PM
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Duh. You wanna grind along in some huge ass gear thinking you are being tough, you just trashing your knees for no good reason. But, I doubt you even ride, your position is so ludicrous and disconnected from reality.
what happened is as a kid when i lived in USSR i used to ride a bike, jog and swim all for fitness when i was about 12 years old. then i came to US and got a car, stopped biking, continued swimming ( on high school team ) and jogging. then after high school i quit swimming and started bodybuilding. then when i reached 200 pounds ( on steroids ) i quit jogging because i couldn't jog with all the weight any more. then i quit steroids and bodybuilding and switched to powerlifting. at this point i was 230 pounds and i am still 230 pounds so i couldn't jog and my muscle was turning to fat ( without steroids ) so i needed a way to burn that fat - so i started swimming again. then i hurt my shoulders because i was swimming at 100% intensity and my ligaments weren't quite as flexible as at 15 y/o any more. so i quit swimming and started biking again - that was a year ago. then i moved from NY to California and left my Mountain Bike in NY because it was heavy and slow and most of all there was no way to transport it easily. Just a few weeks ago i got a new road bike here in Cali and started riding it more or less regularly.

i started experiencing serious problems with joints when i was a bodybuilder. in particular my elbows. i didn't start to experience knee pain until i returned to biking last year. but i know this is no laughing matter and i am willing to change my riding style if that's what my joints need. i first heard that riding with this type of gearing is bad for my knees a few weeks ago when i was trying to explain to the salesman in the bike shop what type of bike i am looking for. it's slowly sinking into my brain. the forces even in the last gear are still quite low compared to the forces involved in powerlifting so i didn't think it was a problem. i thought my knee pain was more a result of too much repetition like carpal tunnel or something, rather than too much force.

if there is strong consensus that high cadence is easier on the knees i will work on that.

also i am grateful to be able to learn by being here. i joined this forum because it helped me when i was shopping for a bike recently. i love forums but i am new to biking forums. i only posted on a bike forum ( mountain bike forum, back when i had a mountain bike ) once in the past when i was shopping for a bike carrier roof rack. i got a great advice back then and very happy with my roof rack. i hope to get great advice here on my road biking as well.

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Old 03-26-10 | 03:01 PM
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In Soviet Russia, bicycle rides YOU!!
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Old 03-26-10 | 03:16 PM
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In Soviet Russia, bicycle rides YOU!!
very true. i was just thinking about it yesterday.

in USSR on bicycles there were no helmets and no brakes. the only brake they had was if you spun the pedals backwards it would lock up the rear wheel using some sort rotational inertia or something. it wasn't very useful for stopping but you could do various kinds of slides with it - most kids on my block could do them.

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Old 03-26-10 | 03:37 PM
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Maybe the OP should give up cycling and just start walking.

A very successful troll. LOL
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Old 03-26-10 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT
very true. i was just thinking about it yesterday.

in USSR on bicycles there were no helmets and no brakes. the only brake they had was if you spun the pedals backwards it would lock up the rear wheel using some sort rotational inertia or something. it wasn't very useful for stopping but you could do various kinds of slides with it - most kids on my block could do them.
We had those in the USA too. I suspect it was sort of a Boeing-Tupelov cross engineering thing.
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Old 03-26-10 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NEUROSPORT
very true. i was just thinking about it yesterday.

in USSR on bicycles there were no helmets and no brakes. the only brake they had was if you spun the pedals backwards it would lock up the rear wheel using some sort rotational inertia or something. it wasn't very useful for stopping but you could do various kinds of slides with it - most kids on my block could do them.
Ha ha yeah that was awesome! I made a mistake of taking that hub apart, I did manage to put it back together eventually. Then I got my first road bike. It was a boat anchor with down tube shifters, but it was so kool. ah good times good times. Oh yeah no helmet also. Helmet nazzis can kiss my azz.


The mandatory: In Russia the bike rides you! lol
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Old 03-26-10 | 04:55 PM
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Maybe the OP should give up cycling and just start walking.

A very successful troll. LOL
I don't know about that. How can a successful troll think 230 lbs. is anything other than tiny?
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Old 03-26-10 | 04:59 PM
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Keith, you need click the link provided, read through some of the posts. Pay very close attention to the username that he uses for that site, which is, wait for it......... troll
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