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Old 11-27-05 | 01:14 AM
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Not that this REALLY matters, but...

Yes for all those who like the mid-grade Veloce, but have always disliked the gearing of the 53/39, and the extra weight and confusion (for some) of a triple, Veloce now has a compact crank coming out for '06, and it is already for sale at www.repartocorse.com

It is nice to see the mid level stuff with compacts now, instead of buying a group to build a bike, then having to go out and pay extrta for an aftermarket crank. I kinda wish I got this for the Veloce group I just bought. Oh well.
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And it's nice that Campagnolo actually has dedicated front derailleurs for their CT cranks.,...

Do these use 110 BCD?
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Old 11-27-05 | 03:17 AM
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What's nice is that they are not much more than an FSA Gossamer. I like that they are silver. Very nice looking crank at an affordable price. Now that the dollar is strengthening vs the Euro Campy looks to be more affordable.

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Old 11-27-05 | 10:29 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. I'm strongly considering it.

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I have an 06 centuar compact on my bike, love it. I got it at competitive cyclist. Running with a regular veloce FD and it works fine (touch slower to shift up to the big ring). I'll probably get their centaur compact FD at some point.
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Old 11-27-05 | 05:06 PM
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Having run a std. Veloce double and currently a Veloce triple...no doubt the Veloce compact would be a nice crankset to ride. Thanks for the heads up Aaron.
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I am guessing it does use 110 it seems to be the norm for compacts.
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Old 11-27-05 | 06:49 PM
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Yeah, I'm using a 111 centaur BB.
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Old 11-27-05 | 07:33 PM
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Yeah, I'm using a 111 centaur BB.
Different spec thad...111 is spindle length and 110 is bolt circle diameter on compact chain rings and spider...smaller for the compact because 34 tooth inner ring can not support larger bolt circle of std double.
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Old 11-27-05 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cs1
What's nice is that they are not much more than an FSA Gossamer. I like that they are silver. Very nice looking crank at an affordable price. Now that the dollar is strengthening vs the Euro Campy looks to be more affordable.

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$170 + 10 shipping?

This guy offers it in 170, 172.5, 175mm and your choice of 50/34 or 46/36 Cyclocross rings...

https://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-05-FSA-GOSSA...QQcmdZViewItem

For half the price, the ISIS version of the same crank is selling for under $90, search ebay for "FSA crankset", select Buy it Now items, and sort by price.
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Old 11-27-05 | 07:47 PM
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Campy alloy cranks. Good values continue to get better.
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"However, Campagnolo's CT cranks aren't 110mm. Campagnolo wanted to change the design of its carbon crank as little as possible, so the bolt placement on the crank arm is in a different position from the other four, which means only Campagnolo's own rings will fit."

You wouldn't expect Campy to follow the standard, would you?

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Duh, my bad.
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
https://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...004/news/apr30
"However, Campagnolo's CT cranks aren't 110mm. Campagnolo wanted to change the design of its carbon crank as little as possible, so the bolt placement on the crank arm is in a different position from the other four, which means only Campagnolo's own rings will fit."

You wouldn't expect Campy to follow the standard, would you?
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That article addresses the carbon compact cranks, and was written in 2004. I think it remains to be seen what rings will fit the 2006 alloy CT cranks.
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So you are suggesting that Campy created a proprietary chainring bolt circle diameter for their carbon CT cranks and then may have reverted to industry standard for their alloy CT cranks? I suppose that is possible, but likely?
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Originally Posted by Patriot
Not that this REALLY matters, but...

Yes for all those who like the mid-grade Veloce, but have always disliked the gearing of the 53/39, and the extra weight and confusion (for some) of a triple, Veloce now has a compact crank coming out for '06, and it is already for sale at www.repartocorse.com

It is nice to see the mid level stuff with compacts now, instead of buying a group to build a bike, then having to go out and pay extrta for an aftermarket crank. I kinda wish I got this for the Veloce group I just bought. Oh well.
Eurobikeparts.com has them for 125. plus they're in usa so quick shipping and no import hassles
https://eurobikeparts.com/products.ph...c679aff396d3c7

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if you check alfred e bike they have veloce and mirage(if you prefer black) in compact

https://aebike.com/site/page.cfm?Page...rand=60&type=T
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OK...for the mechanically-challenged like me....please explain why I should even think about this, considering I have Campy Veloce on my Klein now. What would this change to compact do for me?
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Old 12-10-05 | 01:42 PM
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OK...for the mechanically-challenged like me....please explain why I should even think about this, considering I have Campy Veloce on my Klein now. What would this change to compact do for me?
If you are running a std. double, then you will have shorter gearing to climb the steep stuff at a higher cadence and you will run out of gear faster going downhill. If you are currently riding a triple and switch to a Veloce compact you are taking a step backward.
Bottom line...its all good...I love my Veloce triple because it offers more gearing both top and bottom but would be happy on Veloce's new compact. Those that don't like triples either don't need the gearing or don't know how to shift them.
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Maybe a dumb question, but I'm in the flatland, however will be racing in the mountains come this spring. Could I switch out for certain races? Or would that cause uneeded wear and tear?
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Maybe a dumb question, but I'm in the flatland, however will be racing in the mountains come this spring. Could I switch out for certain races? Or would that cause uneeded wear and tear?
There are no dumb questions...only dumb answers What most amateur riders do if using the same bike on alternate routes with considerably different elevation...is opt to change the rear cassette versus change the crankset to hit the sweet spot for gearing. This takes trial and error to find what gearing works best. After a while you find out what gears work for which route. A triple is very accomodating to a wide range of riding conditions...what I prefer because I use the same bike to climb and ride long flat routes. But others like more of a minimalist approach up front with two chain rings. What really matters isn't what you run up front or in back but what you run front and back together to meet your gearing needs on a particular route. Again...trial and error is the best teacher to find out what gearing you will like.
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Wear and tear? Not sure what you mean by that.

If wanted certain gearing for flatland racing, then going into the mountains to race, I would personally do the following.

1. I would have a standard 53/39 and compact 50/34 crankset ready to go.
2. I would also have a 12/25 cassette. Those are good for all around use. I would also have an 11/23 standing by for those races with a whole range of terrain.
3. I would also have a couple chains, each at differant lengths to compensate for differance in slack when swapping between cranks.
4. I would have one standard and one compact front der. Both braze-on.
5. If my frame was not braze-on, I would also use a braze-on adapter clamp, to make it easy to swap between cranks without constantly marking up the frame where it attaches. I would set the clamp to allow me to swap between ders and cranks whenever I like.

This whole setup would allow easy swapping of cranks depending on the terrain for specific races. Of course you realize, a triple would handle the whole range pretty much by itself, but weight may be a factor, and ease of use when racing may also be a concern when faster shifting is required.
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OK...for the mechanically-challenged like me....please explain why I should even think about this, considering I have Campy Veloce on my Klein now. What would this change to compact do for me?

https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/123238-compact-crank-overload.html have fun
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Wear and tear? Not sure what you mean by that.

If wanted certain gearing for flatland racing, then going into the mountains to race, I would personally do the following.

1. I would have a standard 53/39 and compact 50/34 crankset ready to go.
2. I would also have a 12/25 cassette. Those are good for all around use. I would also have an 11/23 standing by for those races with a whole range of terrain.
3. I would also have a couple chains, each at differant lengths to compensate for differance in slack when swapping between cranks.
4. I would have one standard and one compact front der. Both braze-on.
5. If my frame was not braze-on, I would also use a braze-on adapter clamp, to make it easy to swap between cranks without constantly marking up the frame where it attaches. I would set the clamp to allow me to swap between ders and cranks whenever I like.

This whole setup would allow easy swapping of cranks depending on the terrain for specific races. Of course you realize, a triple would handle the whole range pretty much by itself, but weight may be a factor, and ease of use when racing may also be a concern when faster shifting is required.
I run a 11-27 and a 11-23 on the same bike...same chain...it works...and to cange a cog set takes about 3 min or so. It takes me longer to get dressed.
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Campagnolo Centaur alloy compact crankset at Excel Sports for $120. ETA is 1/9. Just snagged one myself. Hopefully this will give me the mojo I need to get over some of the short but steep bumps around here.
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