VELOCE now has a compact crank for '06. :)
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Not that this REALLY matters, but...
Yes for all those who like the mid-grade Veloce, but have always disliked the gearing of the 53/39, and the extra weight and confusion (for some) of a triple, Veloce now has a compact crank coming out for '06, and it is already for sale at www.repartocorse.com
It is nice to see the mid level stuff with compacts now, instead of buying a group to build a bike, then having to go out and pay extrta for an aftermarket crank. I kinda wish I got this for the Veloce group I just bought.
Oh well.
Yes for all those who like the mid-grade Veloce, but have always disliked the gearing of the 53/39, and the extra weight and confusion (for some) of a triple, Veloce now has a compact crank coming out for '06, and it is already for sale at www.repartocorse.com
It is nice to see the mid level stuff with compacts now, instead of buying a group to build a bike, then having to go out and pay extrta for an aftermarket crank. I kinda wish I got this for the Veloce group I just bought.
Oh well.
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What's nice is that they are not much more than an FSA Gossamer. I like that they are silver. Very nice looking crank at an affordable price. Now that the dollar is strengthening vs the Euro Campy looks to be more affordable.
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I have an 06 centuar compact on my bike, love it. I got it at competitive cyclist. Running with a regular veloce FD and it works fine (touch slower to shift up to the big ring). I'll probably get their centaur compact FD at some point.
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I am guessing it does use 110 it seems to be the norm for compacts.
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#9
Originally Posted by thad
Yeah, I'm using a 111 centaur BB.
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Originally Posted by cs1
What's nice is that they are not much more than an FSA Gossamer. I like that they are silver. Very nice looking crank at an affordable price. Now that the dollar is strengthening vs the Euro Campy looks to be more affordable.
Tim
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This guy offers it in 170, 172.5, 175mm and your choice of 50/34 or 46/36 Cyclocross rings...
https://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-05-FSA-GOSSA...QQcmdZViewItem
For half the price, the ISIS version of the same crank is selling for under $90, search ebay for "FSA crankset", select Buy it Now items, and sort by price.
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https://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...004/news/apr30
"However, Campagnolo's CT cranks aren't 110mm. Campagnolo wanted to change the design of its carbon crank as little as possible, so the bolt placement on the crank arm is in a different position from the other four, which means only Campagnolo's own rings will fit."
You wouldn't expect Campy to follow the standard, would you?
Dawg
"However, Campagnolo's CT cranks aren't 110mm. Campagnolo wanted to change the design of its carbon crank as little as possible, so the bolt placement on the crank arm is in a different position from the other four, which means only Campagnolo's own rings will fit."
You wouldn't expect Campy to follow the standard, would you?
Dawg
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Originally Posted by BluesDawg
https://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...004/news/apr30
"However, Campagnolo's CT cranks aren't 110mm. Campagnolo wanted to change the design of its carbon crank as little as possible, so the bolt placement on the crank arm is in a different position from the other four, which means only Campagnolo's own rings will fit."
You wouldn't expect Campy to follow the standard, would you?
Dawg
"However, Campagnolo's CT cranks aren't 110mm. Campagnolo wanted to change the design of its carbon crank as little as possible, so the bolt placement on the crank arm is in a different position from the other four, which means only Campagnolo's own rings will fit."
You wouldn't expect Campy to follow the standard, would you?
Dawg
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So you are suggesting that Campy created a proprietary chainring bolt circle diameter for their carbon CT cranks and then may have reverted to industry standard for their alloy CT cranks? I suppose that is possible, but likely?
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Originally Posted by Patriot
Not that this REALLY matters, but...
Yes for all those who like the mid-grade Veloce, but have always disliked the gearing of the 53/39, and the extra weight and confusion (for some) of a triple, Veloce now has a compact crank coming out for '06, and it is already for sale at www.repartocorse.com
It is nice to see the mid level stuff with compacts now, instead of buying a group to build a bike, then having to go out and pay extrta for an aftermarket crank. I kinda wish I got this for the Veloce group I just bought.
Oh well.
Yes for all those who like the mid-grade Veloce, but have always disliked the gearing of the 53/39, and the extra weight and confusion (for some) of a triple, Veloce now has a compact crank coming out for '06, and it is already for sale at www.repartocorse.com
It is nice to see the mid level stuff with compacts now, instead of buying a group to build a bike, then having to go out and pay extrta for an aftermarket crank. I kinda wish I got this for the Veloce group I just bought.
Oh well.https://eurobikeparts.com/products.ph...c679aff396d3c7
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if you check alfred e bike they have veloce and mirage(if you prefer black) in compact
https://aebike.com/site/page.cfm?Page...rand=60&type=T
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OK...for the mechanically-challenged like me....please explain why I should even think about this, considering I have Campy Veloce on my Klein now. What would this change to compact do for me?
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Originally Posted by Hipcycler
OK...for the mechanically-challenged like me....please explain why I should even think about this, considering I have Campy Veloce on my Klein now. What would this change to compact do for me?
If you are currently riding a triple and switch to a Veloce compact you are taking a step backward.
Bottom line...its all good...I love my Veloce triple because it offers more gearing both top and bottom but would be happy on Veloce's new compact. Those that don't like triples either don't need the gearing or don't know how to shift them.
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Maybe a dumb question, but I'm in the flatland, however will be racing in the mountains come this spring. Could I switch out for certain races? Or would that cause uneeded wear and tear?
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Originally Posted by sjjone
Maybe a dumb question, but I'm in the flatland, however will be racing in the mountains come this spring. Could I switch out for certain races? Or would that cause uneeded wear and tear?
What most amateur riders do if using the same bike on alternate routes with considerably different elevation...is opt to change the rear cassette versus change the crankset to hit the sweet spot for gearing. This takes trial and error to find what gearing works best. After a while you find out what gears work for which route. A triple is very accomodating to a wide range of riding conditions...what I prefer because I use the same bike to climb and ride long flat routes. But others like more of a minimalist approach up front with two chain rings. What really matters isn't what you run up front or in back but what you run front and back together to meet your gearing needs on a particular route. Again...trial and error is the best teacher to find out what gearing you will like.George
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Wear and tear? Not sure what you mean by that.
If wanted certain gearing for flatland racing, then going into the mountains to race, I would personally do the following.
1. I would have a standard 53/39 and compact 50/34 crankset ready to go.
2. I would also have a 12/25 cassette. Those are good for all around use. I would also have an 11/23 standing by for those races with a whole range of terrain.
3. I would also have a couple chains, each at differant lengths to compensate for differance in slack when swapping between cranks.
4. I would have one standard and one compact front der. Both braze-on.
5. If my frame was not braze-on, I would also use a braze-on adapter clamp, to make it easy to swap between cranks without constantly marking up the frame where it attaches. I would set the clamp to allow me to swap between ders and cranks whenever I like.
This whole setup would allow easy swapping of cranks depending on the terrain for specific races. Of course you realize, a triple would handle the whole range pretty much by itself, but weight may be a factor, and ease of use when racing may also be a concern when faster shifting is required.
If wanted certain gearing for flatland racing, then going into the mountains to race, I would personally do the following.
1. I would have a standard 53/39 and compact 50/34 crankset ready to go.
2. I would also have a 12/25 cassette. Those are good for all around use. I would also have an 11/23 standing by for those races with a whole range of terrain.
3. I would also have a couple chains, each at differant lengths to compensate for differance in slack when swapping between cranks.
4. I would have one standard and one compact front der. Both braze-on.
5. If my frame was not braze-on, I would also use a braze-on adapter clamp, to make it easy to swap between cranks without constantly marking up the frame where it attaches. I would set the clamp to allow me to swap between ders and cranks whenever I like.
This whole setup would allow easy swapping of cranks depending on the terrain for specific races. Of course you realize, a triple would handle the whole range pretty much by itself, but weight may be a factor, and ease of use when racing may also be a concern when faster shifting is required.
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Originally Posted by Hipcycler
OK...for the mechanically-challenged like me....please explain why I should even think about this, considering I have Campy Veloce on my Klein now. What would this change to compact do for me?
https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/123238-compact-crank-overload.html have fun
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Originally Posted by Patriot
Wear and tear? Not sure what you mean by that.
If wanted certain gearing for flatland racing, then going into the mountains to race, I would personally do the following.
1. I would have a standard 53/39 and compact 50/34 crankset ready to go.
2. I would also have a 12/25 cassette. Those are good for all around use. I would also have an 11/23 standing by for those races with a whole range of terrain.
3. I would also have a couple chains, each at differant lengths to compensate for differance in slack when swapping between cranks.
4. I would have one standard and one compact front der. Both braze-on.
5. If my frame was not braze-on, I would also use a braze-on adapter clamp, to make it easy to swap between cranks without constantly marking up the frame where it attaches. I would set the clamp to allow me to swap between ders and cranks whenever I like.
This whole setup would allow easy swapping of cranks depending on the terrain for specific races. Of course you realize, a triple would handle the whole range pretty much by itself, but weight may be a factor, and ease of use when racing may also be a concern when faster shifting is required.
If wanted certain gearing for flatland racing, then going into the mountains to race, I would personally do the following.
1. I would have a standard 53/39 and compact 50/34 crankset ready to go.
2. I would also have a 12/25 cassette. Those are good for all around use. I would also have an 11/23 standing by for those races with a whole range of terrain.
3. I would also have a couple chains, each at differant lengths to compensate for differance in slack when swapping between cranks.
4. I would have one standard and one compact front der. Both braze-on.
5. If my frame was not braze-on, I would also use a braze-on adapter clamp, to make it easy to swap between cranks without constantly marking up the frame where it attaches. I would set the clamp to allow me to swap between ders and cranks whenever I like.
This whole setup would allow easy swapping of cranks depending on the terrain for specific races. Of course you realize, a triple would handle the whole range pretty much by itself, but weight may be a factor, and ease of use when racing may also be a concern when faster shifting is required.
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Campagnolo Centaur alloy compact crankset at Excel Sports for $120. ETA is 1/9. Just snagged one myself. Hopefully this will give me the mojo I need to get over some of the short but steep bumps around here.




