Newbie questions on IRO parts
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Newbie questions on IRO parts
Ive been obsessively searching these forums lately, as I am a newly converted fix gear rider after my roommate started riding his pista.
I already bought and have in my possession a 50 IRO Mark V frame, and am in the process of getting the rest of the parts. Here is what I am thinking so far...
1) https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=1365
^^ are these cranks the same as the rd2 messenger suginos, since the rd2s are what I am looking for. and is this a good price for the cranks and chainring?
2) https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...roducts_id=656
^^ is this a good BB for me since I am a new rider but do wish to upgrade as little as possible. The price is real attractive and I was just wondering if it was a good "bang for the buck" BB
If not what should I select that is a good value from the ones nashbar has to offer that is similar or not too much more in price
https://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?c...it=y&pagename=
3) I saw a great deal on a s-8 cranecreek headset from nashbar.com a while back, for 29.99 actually. They seem to not have it anymore, but should I wait for a deal like that to come back or is the s-6 @ 34.99 just a good of a deal, and worth to get now?
4) I am having a very hard time deciding on a wheelset. Any suggestions for a good one keeping in mind I would ideally like to spend 100-150$? Despite all my research I am clueless on this aspect.
Should I order it online or just get it built around my area for 20-30$ more than online would be?
Thanks for your advice guys, really would help!
I already bought and have in my possession a 50 IRO Mark V frame, and am in the process of getting the rest of the parts. Here is what I am thinking so far...
1) https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...oducts_id=1365
^^ are these cranks the same as the rd2 messenger suginos, since the rd2s are what I am looking for. and is this a good price for the cranks and chainring?
2) https://www.benscycle.net/index.php?m...roducts_id=656
^^ is this a good BB for me since I am a new rider but do wish to upgrade as little as possible. The price is real attractive and I was just wondering if it was a good "bang for the buck" BB
If not what should I select that is a good value from the ones nashbar has to offer that is similar or not too much more in price
https://www.nashbar.com/results.cfm?c...it=y&pagename=
3) I saw a great deal on a s-8 cranecreek headset from nashbar.com a while back, for 29.99 actually. They seem to not have it anymore, but should I wait for a deal like that to come back or is the s-6 @ 34.99 just a good of a deal, and worth to get now?
4) I am having a very hard time deciding on a wheelset. Any suggestions for a good one keeping in mind I would ideally like to spend 100-150$? Despite all my research I am clueless on this aspect.
Should I order it online or just get it built around my area for 20-30$ more than online would be?
Thanks for your advice guys, really would help!
#2
1. With 50cm frame, you're going to need 165 cranks.
They're not offering 165, so don't buy them.
3. The s-8 is pretty crappy. It'll get the job done, but
it's not a very nice headset, and it won't last very long.
They're not offering 165, so don't buy them.
3. The s-8 is pretty crappy. It'll get the job done, but
it's not a very nice headset, and it won't last very long.
#3
yea i realize that the 165 is out of stock, im waiting for them to get back into stock, which usually happens in a week or so. Just tell me if they are the same as the rd2s!
edit: and i was under the impression that cane creeks were good headsets for their price? am i wrong? if so, what are good value headsets?
edit: and i was under the impression that cane creeks were good headsets for their price? am i wrong? if so, what are good value headsets?
#4
crotchety young dude
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From: SF, CA
Bikes: IRO Angus; Casati Gold Line; Redline 925; '72 Schwinn Olympic Paramount
Yeah, Cane Creek is fine. But I'm not too picky about my headsets. Well, I am when I'm adjusting them, but not while riding. Which isn't to say that I've ever ridden with a nice headset...
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Wolfman got nards!
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From: Denver, CO
Bikes: '06 Bianchi Volpe, '09 Mercier Kilo TT, '08 Jamis Exile 29er
Yes, they are the black version of the RD2s and that is a decent price. If you have an LBS that deals with fixed bikes, I'd reccommend talking to them about it. Chances are, you'll be able to get most of the stuff you need for about the same prices that you'll find them on the internet. If it's not out of your price range, definitely get the wheels built at a good local shop.
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#11
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Originally Posted by jodypolk
agreed about the s-8 being kinda crappy...
edit: nevermind... i just realized that it wasn't the s-8 i had...
edit: nevermind... i just realized that it wasn't the s-8 i had...
opie if you are going to need to have a shop put the thing togehter you might want to buy the parts from them too
#12
Theres a decent bike shop by where i live (madison wisconsin, great cycling town) called williamson bike show. I might go that route, but i definitely wont be going to yellow jersey, i feel pressured everytime i step foot in there to buy something. That and they charge a LABOR CHARGE for putting air in after fixing a flat.
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Wolfman got nards!
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From: Denver, CO
Bikes: '06 Bianchi Volpe, '09 Mercier Kilo TT, '08 Jamis Exile 29er
Go to the decent shop and just talk to them. They should be happy to help you out even if you're not buying anything immediately. You can also find out if they can set you up with some decent, inexpensive handbuilt wheels. You can get some cheap track wheelsets here, but after you factor in shipping and having them properly tensioned, you'll probably end up paying even more than if you'd just had the shop build them.
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Originally Posted by In Absentia
Go to the decent shop and just talk to them. They should be happy to help you out even if you're not buying anything immediately. You can also find out if they can set you up with some decent, inexpensive handbuilt wheels. You can get some cheap track wheelsets here, but after you factor in shipping and having them properly tensioned, you'll probably end up paying even more than if you'd just had the shop build them.
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#16
DC's Stray Cat
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Bikes: Gary Fisher Single Speed; Raleigh Conversion; Cayne Uno fixed
the Sugino BB is the match needed if your getting the Sugino RD crankset. It will give you a 42mm chainline. I have both on my CayneUno and love em. May not be the 'upscale' or flashy NJS stuff but it gets the job done.
#18
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From: Drinkin' Island
You'll probably want either Formula or Dimension hubs; there are cheaper options out there, but they're generally much worse. There are lots of companies who sell rebranded versions of one of these two, so it may be called something else.
Formula:

Dimension:
Formula:

Dimension:
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Originally Posted by hiredgoons
You'll probably want either Formula or Dimension hubs; there are cheaper options out there, but they're generally much worse. [/img]
#20
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Originally Posted by freeskihp
I lubs my formulas, they are solid, inexpensive, good value hubs; lace them to some mavic CXP-22s for a slammin time
From my experience, that's a very solid, semi-standard wheelset. I picked some up from shop who had them tensioned and trued for me so I didn't have to deal with those crappy cheap wheel websites. $159 no shipping.
#21
Well, im going with forumla hubs no question. The deciscion I have to make now is either CXP-22 Rims shown here
https://wheelandsprocket.com/itemdeta...gId=39&id=7103
or Velocity Fusions Shown here
https://cgi.ebay.com/New-Velocity-Fus...QQcmdZViewItem
The Fusions have a plus for me since they are black, where with the mavics cost 50$ xtra to get em in black. Can anyone tell me which is the better wheelset? AKA how Fusions stack up against the CXP-22. Oh, and if anyone sees a good deal on a wheelset with fusion hubs and mavic openpro's or opensports (around 200$ish range) give me a shout!
https://wheelandsprocket.com/itemdeta...gId=39&id=7103
or Velocity Fusions Shown here
https://cgi.ebay.com/New-Velocity-Fus...QQcmdZViewItem
The Fusions have a plus for me since they are black, where with the mavics cost 50$ xtra to get em in black. Can anyone tell me which is the better wheelset? AKA how Fusions stack up against the CXP-22. Oh, and if anyone sees a good deal on a wheelset with fusion hubs and mavic openpro's or opensports (around 200$ish range) give me a shout!
#22
yo yo yo yo yo
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From: delaware
black mavics and stuff here
https://shop.greatdealsonbikes.com/me...tegory_Code=TR
https://shop.greatdealsonbikes.com/me...tegory_Code=TR
#23
Thanks! do you think these come with a cog and lockring? Im not familiar if thats standard or not. And if not, are there specific companies i should buy cogs and lockrings from or are they more "whatever" parts
#24
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From: Van BC
Originally Posted by Charlesbian
Thanks! do you think these come with a cog and lockring? Im not familiar if thats standard or not. And if not, are there specific companies i should buy cogs and lockrings from or are they more "whatever" parts
#25
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From: Seattle
Originally Posted by queerpunk
a 50 cm IRO does not "need" 165mm cranks.
mine has 170mm.
i prefer 165s, but 170s won't make the 50cm IRO break or anything.
mine has 170mm.
i prefer 165s, but 170s won't make the 50cm IRO break or anything.




