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Old 06-07-09 | 10:06 AM
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Hey guys,

I am new here and I have a very stupid question. I recently upgraded to a clipless pedal (Shimano). Luckily for me, I have no problem with using the clipless pedal. I can unlock them very easily.

My only problem is mounting the pedal. The pedal keep on spinning and is often upside down thus making it very difficult to clip on. Sometime I have to spin the pedal with the tip of my shoe to get the pedal up right before I can clip my shoes on.

Stpuid question: Is it smart to use loctite from prevent my pedal from floating/spinning? If using loctite is a stupid idea, is there any other method to limit my pedal from spinning completely upside down?

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Old 06-07-09 | 10:09 AM
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:11 AM
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wow....what a great way to start a relationship. I hope the rest of the community is not as rude as you. I rather you not saying anything then to make immature remarks
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:11 AM
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Let me get this straight....you don't wait the pedal to spin?
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:12 AM
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:13 AM
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Hey guys,

I am new here and I have a very stupid question. I recently upgraded to a clipless pedal (Shimano). Luckily for me, I have no problem with using the clipless pedal. I can unlock them very easily.

My only problem is mounting the pedal. The pedal keep on spinning and is often upside down thus making it very difficult to clip on. Sometime I have to spin the pedal with the tip of my shoe to get the pedal up right before I can clip my shoes on.

Stpuid question: Is it smart to use loctite from prevent my pedal from floating/spinning? If using loctite is a stupid idea, is there any other method to limit my pedal from spinning completely upside down?

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No. You just have to get used to flipping it with your shoe or go with a two-sided pedal.
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:15 AM
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I am not talking about the crank. Of course I want the gear to spin. I am talking about the free floating movement of my pedal. I dont want to to spin completely. I want to limit its spin so that it doesnt go upside completing. I want to spin only 90 degree in each direction (front and back) but not 180 or 360.
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:16 AM
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So, how do you intend on turning the crank 360 degrees if the pedal can't spin 360 degrees?
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:17 AM
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No. You just have to get used to flipping it with your shoe or go with a two-sided pedal.
thanks for the post.

.that is what I been doing but I figured that there should be a more effecient method. I guess I just have to practice and practice.

btw...is my idea really stupid or does it make sense?
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:18 AM
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Just think about how your bike works for 10 seconds. Go ahead and locktite the heck out of it and tell us how it goes, be the first...
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:19 AM
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btw...is my idea really stupid or does it make sense?
Really stupid. To do as you proposed would negate the use of clipless pedals. You would have to lift your foot off the pedal through the bottom half of each rotation....unless you plan on pedaling from both the top and bottom of your bike.
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:19 AM
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:21 AM
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Well, he'd have to loctite the bearings, not the pedal threads. To do this would require much more mechanical knowledge than he apparently possesses, therefore, I don't think we're going to get to watch him purposely seize the bearings in his pedal spindle.

It's unfortunate, I know.
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:23 AM
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thanks for the post.

.that is what I been doing but I figured that there should be a more effecient method. I guess I just have to practice and practice.

btw...is my idea really stupid or does it make sense?
The pedal rotates completely around its axis on each revolution of the crank. It's for this reason that two-sided pedal systems (see Speedplay for road-specific) have been introduced.
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:23 AM
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if the pedal wasnt allowed to rotate you could not pedal 360* around
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:26 AM
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there are one-sided, two-sided and 4-sided pedals. If you don't want to have to spin the pedals around to clip in all the time you might want to look for a two/four sided system.
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:28 AM
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<--------- laughing at pictures in my head of this guy trying this and getting thrown over his handlebars on the first push off to try and avoid breaking his ankles.
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Aspire
I am not talking about the crank. Of course I want the gear to spin. I am talking about the free floating movement of my pedal. I dont want to to spin completely. I want to limit its spin so that it doesnt go upside completing. I want to spin only 90 degree in each direction (front and back) but not 180 or 360.
I'm not a wiz at Math, but spinning 90 degrees in each direction equals 180 degrees! That would be 90 plus 90, which equals 180 ....

I don't use clipless, so I don't have to worry about this problem. But I do remember many years ago, when riding other people's bikes that had the toe straps ... I never did like those ....
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Aspire
Hey guys,

I am new here and I have a very stupid question. I recently upgraded to a clipless pedal (Shimano). Luckily for me, I have no problem with using the clipless pedal. I can unlock them very easily.

My only problem is mounting the pedal. The pedal keep on spinning and is often upside down thus making it very difficult to clip on. Sometime I have to spin the pedal with the tip of my shoe to get the pedal up right before I can clip my shoes on.

Stpuid question: Is it smart to use loctite from prevent my pedal from floating/spinning? If using loctite is a stupid idea, is there any other method to limit my pedal from spinning completely upside down?

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In terms of bicycle mechanics yes it would be highly advisable to NOT under any circumstances use loctite to keep your pedal from spinning, I cannot repeat that enough. What you need to do is get used to flipping the pedal up then clicking in, once you do it won't be hard at all as you'll know exactly how to do it quickly. If you can't however adapt to this or don't like a pedal with only one engagement point then check out pedals like Speedplays or Crank Brothers' Eggbeaters which offer more engagement points.
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I think his confusion comes from the fact that the pedal stays upright throughout the stroke. If you don't think about what's happening, it seems the pedal is stationary. You have to realize that the crank arm is rotating and the pedal must be able to rotate separately to stay upright.
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by KCWolfPck
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btw...is my idea really stupid or does it make sense?
Really stupid. To do as you proposed would negate the use of clipless pedals. You would have to lift your foot off the pedal through the bottom half of each rotation....unless you plan on pedaling from both the top and bottom of your bike.
Hey Aspire,

Don't be dissuaded. If you stick around on BF, you will learn that practically every idea expressed here is stupid.

But in response to your original question, there is a reason why none out of the millions of cyclists try to make their pedals seize. Just ride more and get familiar with your equipment.
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:49 AM
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btw...is my idea really stupid or does it make sense?
Sorry, but yeah, it's dumb. Two things I would consider would be to get a two- or four-sided pedal (the only 4-sided pedals I know of offhand are Crank Brothers Eggbeaters) or to add a weight to the underside of the pedals you have now.

Adding a weight won't always work, though, because the bearings on the pedal spindle might not necessarily move freely enough to allow a small weight to maintain a pedal's orientation. You'd have to use a weight that's heavy enough and/or make sure the bearings can spin very freely and easily.

Since you haven't said what kind of clipless pedals you've got, remember that road-specific pedals like those from Look or Shimano's SPD-SL line (Dura-Ace, Ultegra, 105, etc) are only one-sided.

(wondering if high schools even have shop class anymore..)
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:50 AM
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:55 AM
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Would be funnier if he loctites his pedals and it was a fixed gear.....
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Old 06-07-09 | 10:58 AM
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Your cranks go 360*... in order for the top of your pedal to face the sky all the time, the pedal must also be able to rotate 360*

Keep riding with the pedals, it will become second nature to kick and clip. You won't even have to think about it, it will just happen.
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